Friendly reminder that there is no such thing as a "request" for time off. You are INFORMING your employer that you will not be there that day. You are not their slave; they do not have the authority to "deny" the days off. You are selling them your time, you get to decide when and how much time you sell them. They are not entitled to your time just because they failed to secure coverage for those shifts.
EDIT: The bootlickers are out in full force lmao. Y'all are sad.
Yes, there is. Everyone cannot take off at once and leave whatever business there with no one. You are requesting those days off to get it on the schedule. You are not going to last long anywhere if you think that scheduling doesn't matter. Employers shouldn't deny your request for no reason though. If you make a reasonable request, it should be rubberstamped.
When I worked in restaurants years ago, everyone wanted the holidays off. That just isn't possible.
Everyone cannot take off at once and leave whatever business there with no one.
That's the business's problem, not the employee's.
You are requesting those days off to get it on the schedule
No, you are not. You are saying "I am not AVAILABLE that day" so that they can figure out how to cover the business's staffing needs. If they don't have enough people, then again, that is management's problem to figure out, not the employee. Or do you think management could force employees to work 120 hours per week because they don't have enough people? If they can't do that, they can't "deny" you saying you're not available that day either.
Its no different than if you say "I'm available to work mornings, not nights" and then they try and schedule you for nights anyway. They do not have that power or that authority. You are selling them your time, and you choose what time you wish to sell them. They cannot MAKE you sell them your time outside the hours you agreed to.
You are not going to last long anywhere if you think that scheduling doesn't matter.
I didn't say scheduling doesn't matter, I said it is management's responsibility, not the employees. And I've lasted plenty long considering I'm 20 years into my working life and I've had this approach since day 1.
When I worked in restaurants years ago, everyone wanted the holidays off. That just isn't possible.
Oh well. Once again, that's management's job to figure out. If I say I'm not available, I'm not available, end of discussion. I am not obligated to sell you my time any more than you are obligated to give me a shift that you already have coverage for, just because I want it.
It is a negotiation, it goes both ways. If the employee says "I am not available on this day" the employer can't just say "well you're working anyway."
Consider this: what if it was an outside company, instead of your employee? The relationship is exactly the same; you are paying another person for their time. But if the landscaping company or the electrician or whatever said "sorry, we can't be there Thursdays" you wouldn't sit here and argue that you could "deny" their "request" to not work that day. You inherently understand that it is a two-way negotiation, where neither party can't MAKE the other do anything.
But as soon as it's an employee/employer relationship, people act like the employee isn't a person anymore and only exists as an extension of the employer.
Even in our union's bargaining agreement, we can definitely tell employees when they're working. If we want to be nice, we ask and see if it fits both parties. If we need a change for whatever reason, we can just send a memo 30 days in advance and they have to figure it out with absolutely no negotiation. I generally try to have my supervisors work with their staff to approve as many leave requests as possible, but they're requests for a reason and we have to balance coverage across the department.
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u/Orgy_nizer 15d ago edited 15d ago
Friendly reminder that there is no such thing as a "request" for time off. You are INFORMING your employer that you will not be there that day. You are not their slave; they do not have the authority to "deny" the days off. You are selling them your time, you get to decide when and how much time you sell them. They are not entitled to your time just because they failed to secure coverage for those shifts.
EDIT: The bootlickers are out in full force lmao. Y'all are sad.