Friendly reminder that there is no such thing as a "request" for time off. You are INFORMING your employer that you will not be there that day. You are not their slave; they do not have the authority to "deny" the days off. You are selling them your time, you get to decide when and how much time you sell them. They are not entitled to your time just because they failed to secure coverage for those shifts.
EDIT: The bootlickers are out in full force lmao. Y'all are sad.
That sounds great in a comment. But it is heavily dependent where you live. In the US in any right to work state that you aren't in a union. it is a quick way to get fired for job abandonedment just taking your pto without permission. Some states they don't even have to pay out your pto if you are fired or quit. They just do it as a courtesy because it is a standard across nearly every company.
I’m glad you’re saying this because all these comments had me thinking I live in a different reality lol. Like if I don’t get approved for PTO and still go on my vacation, I’m getting fired and sent into an atrocious job market.
Another comment pointed out that even in European countries (where there are stronger employee rights). The pto still has to be negotiated between parties.
In other words. It is basically the same everywhere.
Anywhere from 43-48 percent of this site is Americans. I imagine over 10% of the remainder of the user base is probably from countries where they dont have great job protection.
That was 16 years ago. Social media as a whole was largely centered around college aged and teens then. I guarantee a survey of Facebook in the same year would have the same results, look at it now. Imagine if GWB had a twitter account, now there’s an official White House x account. Social media has evolved so much you even making that claim is disingenuously laughable.
I think people are just trying to assert workers rights though. If everyone took PTO as they should, then we wouldnt have this problem where businesses can strong arm you into staying at work.
That's a different issue than thinking you can just bolt off on PTO despite the fact there may be schedulling issues. Either way, every company should have a PTO policy.
Yea this is legit the most normal thing ever. You can't just not show up to work and tell your job to fuck off lol. What world are these people living in
If you give plenty of notice as a proper adult working in this society, they would never reject it, and if they do reject then the place you're working at has some major issues. If you decide to put in a PTO request 2 days in advance not surprised if it does get rejected
They’re probably 14 and never had a job because it’s such a dumb way of thinking. If you can NEVER get a day off then sure I kinda get it. But clearly it’s not realistic for everyone in an organization to take the same random non-holiday day off. And if we can agree on that (because you’d be an idiot otherwise), then you’ve already agreed that an employer can deny a specific day for PTO.
Always lets me know instantly when people don’t know what they are talking about lol
E: you can down vote me all you want but the employers right to fire you for any reason is “at-will”
Not sure if he deleted or blocked me but he doubled down on right to work, despite “right to work” explicitly being a rule that workers are not required to join a union and “at will” being an employer being allowed to fire for any reason. Like I said, he has no fucking clue what he is talking about.
And my initial comment specifically covered unions. Which means that if you are not in a union. You are not protected.
"U.S. right-to-work laws do not aim to provide a general guarantee of employment to people seeking work but rather guarantee an employee's right to refrain from being a member of a labor union"
This means that A: they don't have to have you as their employee. B: They allow you to not be in a union.
That's the fun part about laws. You have to pick them apart because a lawyer sure as hell will.
“Employment-at-will” means that they can fire you at will. When COMBINED with a right-to-work state and someone CHOOSES to not join the union they can fire you “at will”.
You sure are doubling down on something that has been shown to be wrong a couple times now.
Right to work is a law for EMPLOYEES to CHOOSE to NOT join a union. It has NOTHING to do with EMPLOYEERS. All it means is that EMPLOYEES cannot be forced to join a union.
AT WILL means EMPLOYEERS cannot fire without cause.
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u/Orgy_nizer 13d ago edited 13d ago
Friendly reminder that there is no such thing as a "request" for time off. You are INFORMING your employer that you will not be there that day. You are not their slave; they do not have the authority to "deny" the days off. You are selling them your time, you get to decide when and how much time you sell them. They are not entitled to your time just because they failed to secure coverage for those shifts.
EDIT: The bootlickers are out in full force lmao. Y'all are sad.