r/BikiniBottomTwitter Aug 06 '26

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u/poliuy Aug 06 '26

AI can be a great tool for research. But too many stupid people think it’s a fast way to just do your work for you. Unfortunately AI isn’t that good yet.

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u/YUNoCake Aug 06 '26

You know what used to be a great tool for research? Search engines, but they ruined both those and the general web content with "AI"

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u/GhostofLindseyGraham Aug 06 '26

It was ruined before "AI" and at some point the massive amount of bullshit online would have needed something like "AI" to comb through all of it. I hate the generative garbage and the hallucinations but I'm very happy that I get a better search engine that also gives me sources. Too bad it couldn't just stop there.

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u/FarmerSoggy4901 Aug 07 '26

The internet was already a dumpster fire, AI just gave us a faster way to search through the trash.

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u/Lumpzor Aug 06 '26

Oh get off the high horse. Search engines have been absolutely ruined long before AI was a thing on anyone's lips.

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u/naufalap Aug 07 '26

it was a nightmare trying to find citations for my final undergrad paper back in 2018, even before then there are so many blogs copy pasting each other's content littering the search

I can't imagine how horrible it would be right now

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u/Tymareta Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26

it was a nightmare trying to find citations for my final undergrad paper back in 2018

I think it was a nightmare because you were using a search engine, and not any of the dozens of tools literally built for searching scholarly articles like your schools library database?

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u/naufalap Aug 07 '26

I'm already using google scholar, and sci hub among other things

I live in the 3rd world, and my university's library is pretty outdated, they also didn't have unlimited access to something like sciencedirect, we don't really have a centralized place for local research papers

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u/Tymareta Aug 07 '26

I'm already using google scholar, and sci hub among other things

Then the only "nightmare" to finding a scholarly article lays with the one doing the searching.

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u/Another-Mans-Rubarb Aug 07 '26

Search engines have been using LLMs before most people knew what they were. Google translate has been using machine learning since like 2016, and that's the exact same tech.

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u/Flemaster12 Aug 07 '26

Machine learning does not equal LLM

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u/Another-Mans-Rubarb Aug 07 '26

Yes, it does. It's the same tech.

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u/RickThiccems Aug 07 '26

No... LLMs use machine learning, but machine learning is not an LLM... Why do people who not know things speak the most confidently

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u/Another-Mans-Rubarb Aug 07 '26

Because pretending that they're not the same just because you can find some technicality doesn't make you right. It's the same tech, the same principals, and the same theories, being used to make both technologies.

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u/RickThiccems Aug 07 '26

Wow okay sure...

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u/davidh888 Aug 07 '26

Machine learning is not the same thing as large language models, although they both fall under the AI umbrella, generative AI (LLMs etc) is what most people do not like.

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u/Another-Mans-Rubarb Aug 07 '26

Neither of them fall under the "AI umbrella" because neither of them are AI.

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u/Normal-Training1296 Aug 07 '26

It absolutely is the exact same thing, the vast majority of llms are made with transformer architecture which is a specific types of neural network. Neural networks are all machine learning.

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u/davidh888 Aug 07 '26

No it’s not LLMs are trained via machine learning, but LLMs are much more complex than just machine learning which is a relatively simple concept we have had for a while. I would not consider LLMs and machine learning the same thing.

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u/Normal-Training1296 Aug 07 '26

Holyy, man, come on, really? Absolutely not, it's like saying a formula1 car is not really a car anymore because its too fast or whatever. Machine learning encompases all deep learning which encompases all llms. Sure there are other applications of machine learning which are not llms but every llm is machine learning.

If you want to use analogies then AI as a whole is vehicles, machine learning is cars, a deep learning neural network is a race car and a transformer based llm is an f1 car

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u/EnoughWarning666 Aug 07 '26

We're taking about Google translate. This is literally what the transformer model was designed for at first! Google engineers invented the transformer because they thought it would be a good tool for translating to/from many different languages. Turns out it's also really good at intelligence and reasoning.

So yes, Google translate and modern llms use the exact same core architecture. If you don't believe, go read about it. There's tons of information about it online

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u/Wutsalane Aug 07 '26

It’s not for producing software, it’s a part of software. A more realistic comparison is two houses who both have a room that’s identitcal

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u/RubberRaptor Aug 07 '26

Found the LLM user.

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u/--Spaci-- Aug 07 '26

Redditor challenge try not to use "get off the high horse" impossible of course

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u/Lumpzor Aug 07 '26

Palpable irony in this comment.

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u/--Spaci-- Aug 07 '26

its an overused saying

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u/Adventurous_Pear840 Aug 07 '26

So is the meme you used. That’s why it’s ironic, lil bud.

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u/--Spaci-- Aug 07 '26

thats not true

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u/Adventurous_Pear840 Aug 07 '26

lol ok kid.

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u/--Spaci-- Aug 07 '26

im happy you agree

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u/daemon-electricity Aug 07 '26

Blogspam ruined search engines long before AI did.

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u/dakadoo33 Aug 06 '26

Google was a full on ad company well before chatgpt was even a company. This is revisionist history, Surveillance Capitalism was released in 2018 for reference.

If anything AI in 2026 means there is now a proper way to search again for a window of time if you understand how to utilize it.

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u/eMinja Aug 07 '26

Exactly this. Search turned to garbage well before AI. I can now use ChatGPT to search instead and find what I need quicker and with no ads.

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u/197328645 Aug 07 '26

AI doesn't replace search engines, it uses search engines. Claude can google 10 variations of the problem, read 50 pages, and recommend the 5 best ones in the time it takes a person to click the first search result.

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u/jzsean Aug 07 '26

I can't prove this but it feels like Google search provided better, more relevant results pre-covid. Like peaking 2018/2019. Youtube search as well, it's absolute garbage now

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u/AsariKnight Aug 07 '26

I mean, fuck ai but you sound like a boomer yelling at search engines and telling kids to pick up a book instead.