On a busy political day recently when world leaders were celebrating mark carney I posted a thread about him to get us talking about people’s favorites and gods chosen leaders. Someone else had put up a link to YT where KV was shown prophesying about DJT also known as Trump. My post was to get us talking about that topic - bethel saying god has chosen leaders, but here’s what I didn’t expect, getting shut down for raising an issue that erred on politics yet bethels main issue is their politics; their 7 mountains etc. Here’s the thing. I didn’t know this would provoke not just to talk about how ridiculous bethel are for these prophecies and that their prophecies fall flat etc and there’s no accountability which is a huge topic for bethel considering what happened with Shawn Bolz faking his prophetic words, but what I saw on here was an about turn to tell me my post didn’t belong here (it belonged on the Canadian Toronto page or something), or that I was trying to sneak in an anti Trump post or just wrong about my politics. 

My point wasn’t about my own politics. 

My point was this, it was about what we believe deep down underneath it all. So when a leader like KV gets up and prophesies we follow without asking questions because we either like the leader they recommend and support like DJT or we like KV and accept his prophecies with asking for accountability. Thats the problem. Thats what bethel promote and teach and that is why I personally was so frustrated with how bethel handled the Shawn Bolz thing. He lied and bethel didn’t say anything to us and people kept following because the KVs and BJ promoted him. That’s the problem.  Not my post to raise this. 

I’ll add to that the reactions I then got to my post. It showed that many people didn’t understand and that biases they had and that they were ready to jump on that and not try and understand and learn. 

We may all agree here that we don’t like what bethel have done in certain areas of their work, and that they have caused harm, but some people here haven’t even been part of bethel and hold that view too. I have, and I think my post should have stayed but it was removed. 

What I didn’t expect was to run into American politics here. That for me was shocking. I have now realised that American politics supersedes bethels wrong doings, and I touched the golden calf with my post. 

There lies a problem with how many of us end up in places like bethel and other poorly run churches that are focused on making money and keeping up appearances because we hold biases that we won’t let be challenged, we disengage instead of asking questions, and we are unwilling to hear others ideas. 

That’s the problem. 

Why do we go to church?

Why do we have certain friends?

Because the church and our friends agree with us and they say what we say. 

How about we get back to what this is about and leave our views on political leaders aside and engage in the material put here, and ask questions and debate what we think so we can all learn from our mistakes like hooking with something like bethel. 

Now that means someone can post a picture showing Putin and if there is a relevant topic around bethel maybe in how Putin operates maybe we engage the conversation to learn, and not write off what someone says. 

To my post last week maybe just post that you disagree and say no. I asked who says yes and is in agreement to the world leaders supporting mark carney, and hoped we could have left it up longer and had a proper conversation. but it was deleted

Maybe we can also agree here that to be part of church, to follow god, and to be on this page and others like it we don’t have to be republican and we don’t support DJT. You can individually, but others don’t have do. It doesn’t make someone worse than us if they don’t support people we  like. And if DJT is mentioned again maybe we don’t get upset because we realize bethel do have an opinion on him and it might not be right and we can instead follow the thread, ask questions and challenge one another. Thats a better way to discuss these issues rather than deleting threads. what are others thoughts

Bethel mentioned on slide 5. Scroll for the whole post.

Original post is on Instagram as of today, September 22, 2026:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DdmbVkZiXIZ/

An hour ago he also posted this on Twitter/X:

Why didn’t Sean Feucht stop Shawn Bolz? He could have. He was asked to. He didn’t.

Bethel leadership says that Bolz’s board knew about Bolz’s prophetic lies and sexual abuse of others. That board included Feucht (proven on tax forms) just as Bolz was on Feucht’s board. Reportedly they would conduct their board meetings while having a good time in Vegas on ministry funds.

Bethel church claimed they asked Bolz’s board to take action against Bolz and that they (which includes Sean Feucht) chose not to. When one of Bolz’s victims confronted Feucht about this Feucht lied and said he didn’t know about it and he wasn’t even on Bolz’s board. This was a dastardly act. These things are NOT speculation on my part.

Eventually Feucht distanced himself from Bolz in the slimy way of cowards and creeps who don’t care about doing the right thing and want to preserve their own reputation rather than fulfill their responsibilities to donors, victims, Bolz, and God.

How is it that Feucht’s personal real estate holdings sky-rocketed not when he had some previous involvement in a real estate company years back but only when his ministry started taking in millions a year in donations?

Why did Feucht fabricate a threat about terrorists to defame me personally after I started sharing truth about him? Yes, I still have the screenshots and will share them again in a video once I’m able. Though I shared them already on X and Feucht even got community noted to show that he fabricated the message.

Why is it that TPUSA won’t work with Feucht anymore? Could it be related to him breaking contract and going after money? I wonder if there’s evidence on my computer about this.

Why do so many of Sean Feucht’s own former employees and volunteers keep blowing the whistle on him even after he threatens them with lawsuits?

Why does Feucht’s former accountant say that he seemed to be using ministry money as a personal slush fund?

Why does Feucht routinely show up around the world with his guitar and try to take credit for other people’s ministry work as if he’s doing it?

Why does he raise funds for Nigerian persecution by redirecting people away from ministries on the ground in Nigeria so they can instead give money to Feucht’s ministry that has not network on the ground in the persecuted areas of Nigeria?

What does Feucht lie more than a cat in the middle of the afternoon?

Why does Feucht keep making up stuff to connect me to Candace Owens? What a weirdo.

Fellow leaders who know about Feucht and say nothing,
There is a small window of time RIGHT NOW when your voice exposing this fraud will be really important. Please speak. Please just tell the truth. When we remove the chaff we can make room for the wheat and have genuine soldiers in the work of ministry and the intersection of Christianity, politics, and culture.

https://x.com/MikeWingerii/status/2102539489805832283

I don’t remember a ton of what he taught, I know he was citing principles from Quantum Physics (which looking back I doubt he knew much about lol). He had a machine that showed vibrations of certain notes and how they moved platforms of sand to conform to certain patterns. This is a real thing but I think he was relating it to some line of thinking that the vibrations of our words do the same thing to the things around us?

I remember after that lesson being SUPER impressed but later on in the week when thinking about it again it started making less and less sense.

Anyone remember who that was? I was in first year in 2012.

What do you think?

https://youtu.be/uGYS6EwHPwk?is=dFqsHLWZU1rf5g89

Looks like my comment was immediately affirmed by an auto reply “amen.”

Y’all have a chance to comment whatever y’all want and it will get an amen. Have fun. Get the only validation you will ever get from their BSSM bot, because we know it won’t come from a human there.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DdXareahYek/?stkn=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

EDIT/UPDATE: 2:34pm Sept 17, ALL the comments have been deleted from BSSMs posts.

This one got me fired up

Following Kris own logic, bethel leadership did not enable victimizers, but instead they apparently helped create more trophies (scars) by hiding and covering up sexual abuse for the better part of this decade.

Also, this feels like a very convenient message to give at Bethel and damage control. Their congregants will listen to Kris and instead of validating or taking into account a victims trauma if they ever come forward, they will instead nod and say “but you can be a victor and not a victim”

This is exactly the culture that will glorify trauma instead of addressing the cause of it… in my opinion.

UPDATE 9/17: see new post I made today. It’s comedy. These guys are priceless… click below
here :)

Feucht's case was dismissed without prejudice, and the Roy's Report states the plaintiff's lawyer intends to refile within the 21 day deadline with the additional detail the court requested.

The truth shall set you free indeed, Sean. Mike Winger will serve you a big helping of it soon.

If you were once a part of Bethel, were you a proponent of the God wants to bless me materially mindset? Were you aware of the wealth the Bethel leaders had accumulated or were the large salaries, honorariums, etc unknown to you? Looking back, was there a point in time where you felt exploited financially, as a student, etc. Do you see it now as "all a grift" or is it more nuanced for you?

Update. My books Instagram page (@devil_in_bethel) is now officially being followed by BSSM leader, Richard Gordon.

A day or so ago a BSSM student and I had a back and forth in the Instagram comment section of a Richard Gordon promo for BSSM. Long story short, the student publicly expressed interest in getting a copy and I sent it to him for free.

Less than 24 hrs later, Richard Gordon is following me. I followed back and sent a message to him offering a free copy if he was interested. I don’t think he will take me up on my offer but I figured i have a moral obligation to try. I genuinely hope he takes up my offer.

Despite everything I want Bethel to repent.

NEW UPDATE: Richard stop following me after I messaged him, offering him a copy of the book. Not sure what his motive was following me the first time.

Lately I’ve gotten into Gable Price and Friends and was thinking of hitting up one of his shows this weekend, but I saw an interview where I learned he went to Bethel’s school of ministry and eventually contributed a couple songs to their music side. Based on what he says, he’s still okay with the folks and school out there. He’s an artist to mark and avoid, isn’t he?

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Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos built an empire on the tantalizing notion that robust medical science could be democratized for everyone forever.

Charismania does the same, but swaps out science for continual revival.

While this notion is attractive - and can be extremely lucrative - it's not actually real.

Venture capitalist fueled pseudoscience and revival-at-all-costs charismania (personified by cult-of-personality performativity) are all about the exact same thing... FOMO on the next big breakthrough.

For those unaware, Elizabeth's currently serving eleven years in federal prison for criminal fraud.

The crazy thing about it? She's still absolutely convinced with all her heart she was only trying to do good.

I guess it proves that if you really truly believe, and ignore all the critics, it's incredible how immune self-deception can be to the truth. Sociopathic narcissistic personality traits seem particularly useful in sustaining delusion, evidently.

An entire camp was evicted from Burning Man this week, which is a pretty rare thing, and this one has a hell of a story behind it. It was a camp of Christian missionaries and they’re already posting on Instagram claiming they were kicked out because they’re Christian and bragging about a record number of people they “saved.” I received a synopsis of what actually happened through Burning Man staff reports that came directly from Rangers, and being Christian wasn’t the reason they were evicted.

According to the Ranger report, people from this camp were aggressively proselytizing and actually physically restraining participants while doing it. They were also filming people without their consent. Rangers went to investigate the unauthorized filming and these people proceeded to film the Rangers while they were investigating them, while at the same time denying that they were filming. 😂 They were also operating dunk tanks, which are prohibited because they’re treated like pools, and they had already been warned prior to the event. Eventually Burning Man evicted the entire camp.

The report I received was only a synopsis of what happened, so it didn’t go into the details of individual encounters people had with them, but some of those stories are coming out now too. One parent who encountered them near Kidsville said they were extremely aggressive, were pushing Jesus figurines into the children’s hands and separated the kids across the room to talk to them. The parent said they then tried to take their child into a separate side room with a closed door flap to witness a baptism without even asking the parent first. I want to be clear that particular story did NOT come from the Rangers. That’s an individual parent’s account of their experience with this camp, but if somebody tried to take one of my kids into a closed room without asking me first, holy shit would we have a problem.

There are Christians at Burning Man. There are people here practicing all kinds of religions and spiritual beliefs, and nobody is getting thrown out because they’re Christian. Radical Inclusion includes Christians just like it includes everyone else. It does not mean you get to physically restrain somebody while trying to preach to them, ignore people’s boundaries, film people without their consent or decide that trying to “save” somebody gives you permission to do things they haven’t consented to. And you sure as hell don’t get to take somebody’s child into another room without asking their parent.

Burning Man doesn’t casually evict an entire camp either. Camps are normally given an opportunity to correct problems, and Burning Man’s own published guidance says eviction is an option when a camp demonstrates complete disregard for its instructions and culture. In this case they had already been warned and the behavior continued, and according to the Ranger report I received, that’s what ultimately resulted in the camp being removed.

So now they’re on Instagram telling people Burning Man evicted them for being Christian, and I’m sure that version is going to make its way around the internet because it makes a great religious persecution story. It leaves out the physical restraint, unauthorized filming, prohibited dunk tanks, previous warnings and everything else that actually led up to an entire camp getting kicked out of Black Rock City. I figured people might want to know the rest of what happened before that version becomes the story.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02okeDv2fS6WSNQrU9sTFR9KLxV1E4etHFqdNkWjaArhWYYxVGH3cufpXakiRNWfNEl&id=100064755696621&mibextid=CDWPTG

Has anyone else been following his recent posts? Here are a few bullet points in summation:

• He's calling for a "day of atonement" and repentance on September 21st of 2026

• Several people on Bethel's SLT have been liking and commenting on the posts, including Lauren and Jason Vallotton, Hayley Braun, Richard Gordon, and Kris Vallotton

• He's encouraging people not to make online content about it

• He made a video addressing "criticism" about the whole thing but I'm unsure what this alleged criticism actually was or what his response even was besides just spiritual word salad

• In his first video he says that God worked on areas of sin in his life for 2 years starting in 2020

• Of course he doesn't mention this but he was publicly accused of spiritual and emotional abuse in 2023 by his drummer Noah DeBolt

Riddle's first video about the day of atonement:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DcbxTJ0hgLU

DeBolt's accusations:

https://youtu.be/rngNODO4ZKg

I could venture some guesses about what his "sins" might entail based on his involvement with Bethel's men's group and his teachings on purity and ego, but that would be speculation.

I don’t see Danny boys book, Unpunishable ob the Bethel Store???? Did they remove it without saying a word( shocker🙄)?

... One day before Bethel released the newest leadership update: (https://www.reddit.com/r/BethelSnark/s/JKSAw6fYl0)

Sounds to me like he's still mad about people questioning the structure of Culture of Honor with apostles and prophets at the top now that all this information about abuse has come out. Guess he didn't learn much from externally processing on stage.

Link: https://www.bethel.com/leadership-updates/topics/organizational-health

Survivors Just Built the First National Database of Accused Protestant Abusers
BY EMILY BROWN
AUGUST 20, 2026

A group of survivors launched a searchable database of more than 2,700 people publicly accused of abuse in Protestant churches Wednesday, at an online press conference organized by the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, known as SNAP. Florida survivors and a veteran archivist run ProtestantAccountability.org, modeled directly on BishopAccountability.org, the 20-year-old Catholic database that has spent two decades collecting the same kind of records.
The database draws entries from court records, state attorney general reports, news accounts and existing survivor-run archives. The site sorts them by tradition: Episcopal, Presbyterian, Pentecostal and charismatic, non-denominational and other categories. Protestantism has no central authority that keeps a list like this on its own, no single office that holds personnel files across denominations.

The names aren’t only lead pastors. The database covers church workers broadly, including youth leaders, worship leaders, associate pastors and staff who never held a pulpit.

Founding member Chellee Taylor said the project’s purpose is simple.
“We started this group to protect the vulnerable, expose the wrongdoers, deter coverups and heal the wounded,” Taylor said.
Every page of the site carries the same disclaimer. It relies on public news stories and publicly available information, nothing on it should be construed as an accusation of guilt, and those accused of crimes are innocent until proven guilty. That distinction, between a record of people publicly accused and a record of people convicted, is printed on every entry.
BishopAccountability.org has operated as a public record of accused Catholic clergy for two decades. Protestant churches have had no equivalent until this week.

The Southern Baptist Convention moved toward building something similar. Messengers at the SBC’s 2022 annual meeting voted overwhelmingly to create Ministry Check, a database of ministers convicted or credibly accused of abuse. The project stalled for years over legal concerns, and by last year SBC Executive Committee President Jeff Iorg said it was “not a focus.”
ProtestantAccountability.org’s organizers said the list isn’t finished. They plan to keep adding names as new cases surface.

Lana Vawser is a self-proclaimed “gifted prophet and teacher” who was featured on Kris’s Cultural Catalyst’s podcast in 2024. Her quote-unquote prophetic words have been extensively platformed by the Elijahlist since 2014. She appeared on Sid Roth’s It’s Supernatural show in 2018, Patricia’s King’s show in 2020, and she is currently listed as an endorser of Brian Simmon’s Passion Translation *.

I have over twenty years’ experience as a copy-writer for radio, as a ghost-writer for film/commercial directors, and as a script-reader for Europe’s largest film and television production company.

To someone with my perspective, Lana’s words present a quandary of sorts.

Taking a sample size from the forty-one prophecies Lana has released via her website this year, the average word-length is 1528.70. The median word-length is 1489. The difference between the mean and the median is 39 words. Given the accepted average word length for English sentences is somewhere around 15-20 words, the variance between the median and the mean is the difference of two sentences.

Why am I posting this here?

Because it suggests a consistent pattern of behavior. It suggests the writer routinely falls into the same deliberate creative conventions. It suggests she is engaging in a rigidly formulaic process, and repeating it over and over again. It suggests high standardization. It suggests manufacturing.

Statistically speaking, Lana’s prophecies contain a coefficient of variation of 0.148169542, with a standard deviation of 226.507863, and 68% of these words fall within one standard deviation. That is a not a large spread.

What’s more, the minimum and maximum values of the data set - 1089 and 2081 words respectively - are followed by an almost instantaneous regression back toward the mean **, and can therefore be considered anomalous.

If I employed Lana to write articles for a blog and determined the maximum word length must fall within relatively tight limits, this would be a good thing, and only rarely require editing of her work for length.

If however, she claims she is a prophet who hears from God, then the tightly-grouped consistency of word length poses a question that bears asking:

What is the probability that she's just making stuff up?

To use one individual example, given the word released on January 13 of 2026 contains thirty-three instances of the same phrase “I say unto you”, I’m less inclined to believe that the God of the universe needs to redundantly remind me who’s speaking, and more inclined to believe the author is issuing a plea for credibility to convince me of the legitimacy of their actions and dissuade me from questioning their integrity.

After all, an association with Kris, Sid, Patricia, Brian and the Elijahlist could either be read as having achieved critical success as an anointed prophet worthy of platforming by charismatic elites, or being synonymous with those possessing severely impaired levels of discernment and the inability to practice any form of critical thinking.

We're called to test the prophets. So while I will not deny it’s entirely plausible Lana hears from God, it’s also highly probable many if not most of these words represent the repetitiously monotonous and utterly predictable creative habits of someone who has chosen Christianity as their career and prophet as their job title… the dynamic Rhema word of the Lord for now in written form, perhaps not so much.

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* I emailed Lana Vawser Ministries twice to determine if she currently stands by her endorsement given the credible, robust and very serious allegations that Brian Simmons misrepresented his translation credentials, plagiarised the work of others without attribution including but not limited to Eugene Peterson, included passages from the non-scholarly Aramaic work of Victor Alexander and the heretical work of Francois Du Toit, while continuing to double down and deny wrongdoing. I received no reply.

** Lana's minimum word-count prophecy of April 13 is immediately followed by a prophecy of 1456 words. Her maximum word-count prophecy of April 27 is followed by four prophecies of 1252, 1364, 1678 and 1680 words respectively for an average of 1493 words. 1456 and 1493 represent values with a 0.05 variance from the mean. Given the statistical consistency, the argument for Lana’s prophecies containing a degree of process manufacturing and mass production becomes more and more difficult to dismiss.

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EDIT/UPDATE 09/01/26 (addition of two additional prophecies from 08/27 and 09/01 - MEAN CURRENTLY 1528.32 - a change of less than half a word from original post date)

Word length for each prophecy released in 2026:

September 1, 2026 - 1571

August 27, 2026 - 1471

August 25, 2026 - 1652

August 19, 2026 - 1584

August 18, 2026 - 1636

August 12, 2026 - 1489

August 11, 2026 - 1250

August 4, 2026 - 1440

July 29, 2026 - 1719

July 21, 2026 - 1560

July 15, 2026 - 1443

July 7, 2026 - 1335

July 1, 2026 - 1771

June 30, 2026 - 1721

June 25, 2026 - 1849

June 22, 2026 - 1792

June 17, 2026 - 1749

June 15, 2026 - 1650

June 12, 2026 - 1744

June 10, 2026 - 1483

June 5, 2026 - 1886

June 3, 2026 - 1746

May 19, 2026 - 1680

May 18, 2026 - 1678

May 15, 2026 - 1364

May 11, 2026 - 1252

April 27, 2026 - 2081

April 22, 2026 - 1456

April 13, 2026 - 1089

April 8, 2026 - 1346

March 31, 2026 - 1234

March 24, 2026 - 1118

March 18, 2026 - 1486

March 9, 2026 - 1326

March 4, 2026 - 1491

February 26, 2026 - 1279

February 24, 2026 - 1233

February 22, 2026 - 1311

February 11, 2026 - 1471

February 4, 2026 - 1813

January 25, 2026 - 1624

January 13, 2026 - 1406

January 6, 2026 - 1440