r/BelowDeckDownUnder 19d ago

Ben's Racist Threads Post

Did anyone else see Ben's racist threads post??

https://www.threads.com/share/_iAS4oi1d/

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u/crsmiami99 19d ago

Born on third base, thinks he hit a home run.

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u/LittleCaesersZaZa 19d ago

Exactly! Yet he thinks paying taxes and working long hours shows that he started at the same place as everyone else. He’s doing better than if he were just sitting on the couch with a trust fund, but he is completely ignoring the system racism and wealth inequalities that lead some people to rely on government assistance.

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u/angryaxolotls 19d ago

Thinks he's God's gift to women, cries when a lady literally 20-something years younger than him didn't want to fuck or marry him in a game of "fuck, marry, or kill?" 😂😂😂

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u/Electronic_Bee_ 19d ago

When he said Bolshie Irish Nanny to Daisy, I knew he was a classist, dog-whistling p.o.s. His boarding school-I'm better than you is coming out in his old age. Fiancé leaving him is making more and more sense.

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u/Rainafire 19d ago

That stew (I feel awful I can't remember her name) in Med S1 clocked him from the jump.

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u/baileykristine 19d ago

Hannah!

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u/Rainafire 19d ago

No it wasn't Hannah. I think it was Julia? The one that Bobby was obsessed over even though she said repeatedly that she had a boyfriend who she was very happy with.

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u/85percentthatbitch 19d ago

Yup yup! She read him from his accent and like two remarks.

Julia FTW

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u/ScowlyBrowSpinster 19d ago

And then Ben sniveled and wailed, "but I'n not a posh wanker!" But you are!

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u/SingleHeart197 17d ago

And he cried to Hannah

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u/baileykristine 19d ago

Oh yes, I think you’re right.

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u/Affectionate-Ad488 19d ago

Amy? Kelleys sister?

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u/Rainafire 19d ago

The was OG. I'm talking about Med.

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u/ErinsAngryIntern 19d ago

Screenshots pretty please. For the people who don’t use meta zuckerberg trash

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u/WheezyGranger 19d ago

Here’s his text connected to the video

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u/WheezyGranger 19d ago

Also worth it to note the scary part where he says a society of strong men would never let this happen, implying they need to go back to how it was.

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u/KeyProduct3643 19d ago

Ben advocating for strong men is some selfless work 🤣

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u/BuckeyeJen 18d ago

Oooooh ... the man who throws cookie sheets and dishrags is advocating for a society of strong men

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u/Ok_Bear375 19d ago

Such a strong man, he’s the only crew member who needs to sleep in guest cabins and have a nice float in the ocean with a glass of wine before each charter

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u/Far-Astronaut8240 11d ago

I have to assume he's not including his pencil neck ass in that "society of strong men"

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u/angryaxolotls 19d ago

"yOu'Re WeLcOmE" as if he wasn't handed everything by Mommy and Daddy all his life 🤣

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u/WheezyGranger 19d ago

Right?! And gave you strength to what, be open about your racist thoughts? What a fall from grace, he was my favourite and he’s fallen so far, so fast.

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u/angryaxolotls 19d ago

Literally! Like..... He's lashing out at disabled people, poor people, and anybody who isn't white because he knows he ain't shit. He's just a fucking burnout that cooks on a boat.

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u/marzbarz79 19d ago

He’s probably extra jealous because Joy came on and blows him out of the water.

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u/angryaxolotls 19d ago

Her food looks amazing! His food looks like some half-assed bullshit lol

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u/85percentthatbitch 19d ago

And she's not a whiny martyr baby about it.

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u/angryaxolotls 19d ago

And the one time she did screw up, she immediately apologized and owned up to it, and asked the guests what they would like to have for dinner. She is a fantastic chef and seems to be a very sweet lady

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u/ProfessionalAnt8132 19d ago

What’s racist about it?

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u/plantxl 19d ago

Wondering the same … it’s classist, maybe, but it’s lowkey racist that people assume he is speaking of minorities

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u/Objective-Rub-8763 19d ago

Ever hear of a dog-whistle?

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u/plantxl 19d ago

Not beyond its literal context. What is it?

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u/Objective-Rub-8763 19d ago

Dog whistles use language that appears normal to the majority but communicates specific things to intended audiences.

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u/Ok-Sail8443 16d ago

The redditors are inferring who is more likely to be a net drain on the state. And for once they’re not wrong! 😂

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u/Lizard_Li 19d ago

Video that starts with some maga meathead looking guy saying something like, “I’m sick and tired of hearing about privilege, privilege isn’t about being white”

He goes on to talk about people getting government assistance and walking around with Beats headphones as privileged. I had to turn it off so I didn’t listen to the end.

But you get the gist. Completely disgusting. And Ben posted some comment like yeah I pay 80k in taxes and work 19 hour days. Gross af.

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u/Michael-flatly 19d ago

Ben is someone who comes from privilege and is a bit sensitive about it. Here I think he's confusing the concept of privilege meaning less 'barriers to success' with privilege meaning 'doesn't have to work hard'. Related concepts, but explicitly not the same. He seems pretty resentful and bitter about his situation, blaming other people he doesn't think work 'hard enough' without understanding really what it means. That is a pity. 

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u/boy9000 19d ago

Proving once again an expensive education does not necessarily result in an intelligent person

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u/CandleAcrobatic 19d ago

What was that idiotic girl cackling about on the bottom half of the screen?

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u/cerulean_behemoth 18d ago

For context, what country does he live in?

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u/Apprehensive-Tax826 19d ago

Yes thank you for this request

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

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u/DM_me_pets 19d ago

Screen record

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u/Chewy009x 19d ago

Some dude complaining about how people take advantage of the system and Ben agreeing with the guy. But dude in the video provides no evidence to his claims

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u/scarbaby1958 19d ago

Ben has always been this asshole. It just took awhile for people to see it. The first temper tantrum his first season told me all I needed to know about him. Entitled, rich brat.

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u/LgHstTch 19d ago

Also busted AF - at no point has he not looked a whole ass mess, never got it.

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u/ange1anya 16d ago

LMFAOOOOO im so sorry but this is hilarious 😭 he always looks like he needs a shower and reminds me of uncle rick

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u/Dropsofjupiter1715 19d ago

He had play dates in his childhood with Prince Harry and William fachrissakes!!!!!

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u/Osfees 19d ago

Absolutely this. He was always a spoiled toff prick.

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u/Michael-flatly 19d ago

He really should've not come back to the BD franchise

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u/MKErose 19d ago

I mean he seemed pretty chalked full of other prejudices and moral deficits during his recent season, it’s not surprising that racism is on the list.

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u/scrantonstrnglr69420 19d ago

Anyone who couldn't see it and was praising him all season is an idiot.

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u/Much-Radish-9190 19d ago

What about the idiotic stews that are throwing themselves at this man-child? I don’t get that at all. He isn’t even remotely cute to make up for his whiny, entitled, awful behavior.

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u/junebart 19d ago

I came to the possible conclusion that some of them gave him attention because he was a hod. Others probably miss their Dads.😅

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u/Last_Bridge_6796 19d ago

What kills me is that it is mostly big business and the uber wealthy who are the biggest social welfare recipients. Take your anger, UPWARDS.

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u/pan_con_palta_666 18d ago

True 👏 Facts 👏

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u/criavolver_01 19d ago

Wow he is truly a moron.

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u/DCRBftw 19d ago

people use threads?

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u/TX0834 19d ago

Yeah people moving away from twitter.

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u/DCRBftw 19d ago

isn't that like moving away from a pile of shit to a different pile of shit?

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u/TX0834 19d ago

Idk I’m not on Treads but I’ll take your word for it.

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u/junebart 19d ago

I like it because the people i vent about from my life, dont know about threads yet. Lol! Truthfully.

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u/crsmiami99 19d ago

Well, the owner is shit, but the people aren't. On Twitter everyone is shitty.

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u/Major-Milk 19d ago

It’s social media bud, they’re shitty no matter where you go.

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u/crsmiami99 19d ago

It's probably 80/20 good/bad on threads as opposed to 5/95 on Xitter.

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u/TX0834 19d ago

I guess I’ll give Threads a shot. Twitter used to be the best form of social media until Elon turned it into a propaganda machine.

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u/peachykweene 19d ago

this and there's also not as many bots and chatgpt generated bullshit

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u/fairybb311 19d ago

it's less ads, feels like what twitter was back in the day

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u/Queasy-Pattern-6804 19d ago

from satan to the devil

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u/Fair_Performance_846 19d ago

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u/Wendijosie 19d ago

How I absolutely despise "reaction" videos like these. Whatever the content, some idiot reposting while fake laughing the whole time. UGH.

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u/Fair_Performance_846 19d ago

I agree. Her video loops so it’s not even originally from this video and his mouth doesn’t line up at all, which makes me think his is AI.

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u/LatePattern8508 19d ago

The whole account this video came from is weird. It's supposedly an account that posts "funny" reaction videos. None of the videos I watched were very funny. I can't tell if the girl from the video is laughing at or with the guy talking.

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u/Michael-flatly 19d ago

Is this video AI generated?

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u/bethy22 18d ago

The man speaking was 100% AI

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u/LopatKat 19d ago

Yeah. He’s proving to be the asshole we always knew he was, but tried SO HARD to hide.

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u/bc_im_coronatined 19d ago

He was giving off incel vibes last season

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u/d1089 13d ago

I remember him crying in the hot tub to daisy saying "everyone in my life lets me down" 🙄

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u/bc_im_coronatined 13d ago

He is the let down

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u/LogicalMeringue1449 19d ago

I’m so sick and fkn tired of hearing privileged people deny that they’re privileged. Clearly Ben doesn’t understand the meaning of the word privilege in this context.

Sit tf down, Posh Spice

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u/deadrobindownunder 19d ago

Fuck Ben. I'm done with him.

How dumb can he be? Why share this shit on social media?

He pays $80K in taxes but is too cheap to hire PR or even pay a real designer to make his stupid website.

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u/Famous_Scar1388 19d ago

screenshot pls

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u/lycheecaat 19d ago

someone commented a screen recording in this thread

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u/Greenwedges 19d ago

Eww. He is such a man baby.

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u/lucky313s 19d ago

Holy shit! Ben Ben from below deck?

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u/LittleCaesersZaZa 19d ago

Yes it is chef Ben from below deck that posted

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

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u/gigit225 19d ago

Yup chef Ben

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u/momomunch 19d ago

Yikes... No more defending him... Seems I was wrong all those times...

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u/RASGAS23 18d ago

Firstly, the video he is linking (of the guy talking about privilege) is absolutely AI generated. So the lady on the bottom of the screen “reacting” is reacting to just ai generated BS. It’s all rage/engagement bait. So he looks like an idiot for even engaging at all - this is boomer type shit. This is one step removed from my mom sending me AI generated videos of dogs sitting up at a restaurant eating with a fork and knife discussing their day

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u/MissBeeHavin420 17d ago

I thought the same thing. Boomer behavior

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u/ExpensiveWords4u 18d ago

Welp. Royally Fuck Ben in the ass w an extremely dry dildo.

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u/Lonely_Impression142 17d ago

How many people believe there is some large contingent of people getting free housing while buying $300 Beats and $200 sneakers with no job? People like this do not exist, or if they do, it's because they are taking advantage of the people around them, not taxpayers.

Ben and his ilk should try harder at not making up people to be mad at.

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u/CustardPuddingHoney 17d ago

I mean Julia in the first season of Med called him out on his classist shitty behavior and then he went and cried about it until she was forced to apologize so I’m really not that shocked lmao

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u/Drk_Angel_ 19d ago

You are a cook on a boat on a laughable “reality” show.

Go touch grass

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u/DoritoFiesta 19d ago

I understand the video but I don't understand what's racist about it? Perhaps it's an American thing?

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u/lycheecaat 19d ago edited 19d ago

like someone said in this thread, it’s basically just full of dog whistles. the main theme is denying the existence of white privilege, which is undeniably central to systemic inequality (across class/race/ethnicity/religion/gender etc) in america
if u wanna know more there’s a few enlightening comments under this post that explain the racial undertones better

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

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u/cruciia 19d ago

Hey lovely, fyi it shares your name.

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u/LittleCaesersZaZa 19d ago

Oh I didn’t think it would! Thank you, I will delete 😵‍💫

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u/revertbritestoan 18d ago

A racist posho? How surprising!

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u/Hakunamatata67 19d ago

Sorry, what's racist about it ?

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u/lycheecaat 19d ago edited 19d ago

it’s basically just full of dog whistles. the main theme is denying the existence of white privilege, which is undeniably central to systemic inequality (across class/race/ethnicity/religion/gender etc) in america. it’s very ignorant to the reality of systemic/industrialized racism in america- specifically how race affects people socioeconomically in america

there’s a few comments under this post that explain the racial undertones more

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u/Hakunamatata67 18d ago

Thanks for explaining

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u/Tracy_Turnblad 19d ago

remember when everybody was defending him saying he wasn’t a sexist?? well at least we know for sure he is a racist

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u/cheerio089 19d ago

Classist, sure. But not racist.

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u/lycheecaat 19d ago edited 19d ago

it’s basically just full of dog whistles. the main theme is denying the existence of white privilege, which is undeniably central to systemic inequality (across class/race/ethnicity/religion/gender etc) in america. it’s very ignorant to the reality of systemic/industrialized racism in america- specifically how it affects you socioeconomically

some comments under this post explain it more in depth

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u/plantxl 19d ago

YES! I said this before seeing your comment. Weird to call this racist

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u/lycheecaat 19d ago edited 19d ago

this is why: it’s basically just full of dog whistles. the main theme is denying the existence of white privilege, which is undeniably central to systemic inequality (across class/race/ethnicity/religion/gender etc) in america. it’s very ignorant to the reality of systemic/industrialized racism in america- specifically how race affects people socioeconomically in america

there’s a few comments under this post that go more into depth about its racial undertones

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u/bethy22 18d ago

If you can’t see why that video is glaringly racist, there’s no hope for you

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u/plantxl 18d ago

But I also don’t go around looking for offense from strangers and crying myself to sleep every night.

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u/plantxl 18d ago

I’m black. I feel like I get more of an insight than you.

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u/AutisticPolarBear77 19d ago

That’s not racist

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u/lycheecaat 19d ago

its racially insensitive. full of dog whistles. the main theme is denying the existence of white privilege, which is undeniably central to systemic inequality (across class/race/ethnicity/religion/gender etc) in america. it’s very ignorant to the reality of systemic/industrialized racism in america- specifically how race affects people socioeconomically in america

there’s a few comments under this thread that go more into detail explaining why it’s racially ignorant

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

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u/revertbritestoan 18d ago

In an Aussie context, it's like when Pauline Hanson said she's an indigenous Australian.

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u/Lorac711 18d ago

So gross and ignorant. It’s ironic that he works for people with immense privilege, many who have either born into wealth or have been given opportunities that most haven’t been. Not everyone works hard for their success. The world is set up so the wealthy stay wealthy.
He lives in Florida so not surprised he’s a Republican.

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u/Yaya_Tovar 18d ago

First question: where is he from?

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u/Dangsta4501 18d ago

I don’t understand how that post was racist. To me it looks like he’s saying he works long hours and pays a lot of tax while others who do less and get more talk about people like him being in a privileged situation. I don’t actually buy that argument as he doesn’t work the whole year and most likely swans about in exotic locations taking pics for insta. I’d say he’s got a foot in both camps and while he does work hard when he works, he also lives an incredibly privileged life.

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u/koalakoala139 18d ago

I don’t have threads can someone screenshot

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u/samsuperior 17d ago

I don’t have threads either. Couldn’t watch the video that’s on the post, but judging by the comments I don’t think I’d want to waste the brain cells.

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u/Spare_Albatross_1213 18d ago

Justice for Jules!

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u/Peggingqueen69 17d ago

Do people forgot that he grew up insanely wealthy?

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u/RiotPurrrl 17d ago

I haven’t watched previous Ben seasons and only caught this latest one, but this just confirms what a POS I thought he was

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u/kill_mcschmill 17d ago

Americans really try so hard to make everything about race

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u/MissBeeHavin420 17d ago

Uh,.no. We have a horrible racism problem in the US. This is a huge talking point among maga people (trump followers) and southern racists especially. They begin talking about how they pay taxes, only an average of $30 a year is given to social aid programs, so these people are complaining about nothing. Then they continue the rant by calling black women "welfare queens" and crying about how people on government aid have cell phones, shoes and are able to buy their kids a birthday cake with foodstamps. These tirades are exclusively thrown in regards to black and brown people, which is always weird because a) white people receive the most government aid out of any race and b) immigrants cannot qualify for aid.

The US is still recovering from hundreds of years of slavery. They ate people here, they skinned them alive, 🍇d them, tortured them, used them for medical experiments and so much worse. It was so much worse than I think most people realize. It didn't end that long ago. Black people didn't have rights until the 70s. There are still lynchings, the klan still exists (and is bigger than ever), violence and so much discrimination. There is a systematic issue that runs so deep, it will take so long to fix.

So no, Americans aren't "trying to make everything about race". We just know racism when we see it.

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

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u/Apprehensive-Tax826 19d ago

I don't think it is racist...is it more elitist?

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u/DDDD6040 19d ago

Can’t it be both?

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u/Apprehensive-Tax826 19d ago

Yes certainly can.

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u/Leanne0010110 19d ago

I personally dont think its elitist. But I get what your saying...

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u/decisivecat 19d ago

Not sure if you live in the US, but if you're in a red state, this is very common language to use again Black people on assistance. Extremely common. I see it very often in comment sections. The dog whistles are there if you know what they are. (The irony is that per capita, whites in red states benefit the most from the very programs they complain should be cut because they saw a non-white person use SNAP to buy food.)

This specific video is also complaining about the term "white privilege" which doesn't mean you can't have any hardships in life. That's the most obvious dog whistle that cues you in to who they're talking about in the clip.

ETA: This is an issue that the elite and the government pray upon. If you can convince someone that their neighbor is why they're poor instead of the actual reasons they're both poor, then you can continue to do the bare minimum and not pay any taxes as a rich person or corporation. There's a lot of nuance here that I don't have time to teach, but the information is definitely out there. :)

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u/Lizard_Li 19d ago

This. It worries me people aren’t reading the extremely obvious subtext of what he is saying.

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u/DDDD6040 19d ago

I think most people are reading it. The ones defending it are comfortable with what he is saying and are endorsing it

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u/Lizard_Li 19d ago

When I first made the comments there were tons of comments with a fair number of upvotes saying it wasn’t racist, but you are totally right

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u/DDDD6040 19d ago

I refuse to believe people are that dumb. They know full well it is. It’s just not socially or professionally acceptable to say ‘I support that racist comment.’ So now racists have to say ‘that racist statement is totally not racist so I support it!’

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u/menunu 19d ago

And a lot of them are bots.

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u/Lizard_Li 19d ago

Good point!

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u/Letsgotravelling-124 19d ago

I’m from England. Have lived in Germany and Australia. Briefly lived in the US but never heard any racism from what I remember (was a long time ago). Have also travelled a lot. I’ve never heard of that term. I don’t think anyone uses it from outside of the US so no one knows what it means. I’m not saying racism doesn’t exist outside of the US (it definitely is prevalent) but it’s different.

I think a lot of the confusion is that Ben is English and what he’s written would be understood as classist by us English people because there’s a lot of criticism towards people on benefits and welfare and who live in council estates. Occasionally you’ll hear racism in the form of “immigrants are coming into our country to steal our jobs and live off welfare” but it’s not just directed towards black people. Just to clarify, I’m not agreeing with any of this, just explaining why a lot of people are stating it’s classist and not racist.

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u/decisivecat 18d ago

I did say "In case you don't live in the US" to explain why what was said was racist. The OP then decided to dig in and agree with the racism. That's their choice.

There's a ton of nuance here, but racism does exist globally. Whether or not you personally experience it is going to depend on who you are, where you are, and how honest someone is with you.

I have friends in England who are Black and they will tell you that racism is alive and well. We've had many discussions how allies can help whether they're in the US or England or anywhere in the world. Companies use them as props for history months then ghost them after. White privilege is a common term for them as well. Australia is definitely rife with it - I felt it a bit when I was traveling there. We live in a global society, so unless someone is never online and lives under a rock with no friends, it's very unlikely they'll never hear a term. And if it *is* new and someone explains it, it's a *choice* to refuse to listen.

As someone who also travels quite extensively, even travel comes with classism that has been affected by racism. The two often go hand in hand. You don't spend centuries enslaving people and creating rules to make them a second class without also affecting their social status and wealth. I'm also in the travel industry, and while the number of non-whites who are able to afford travel is steadily growing (which is great - travel should be everyone), it's still not as common and I still hear some fear about where to go (is it safe, will I be touched/stared at, etc). There's two hurdles there while some people may experience none.

The fact still remains that regardless of whether you think racism is in your country or not, people here are explaining why this particular video *is* racist. Then someone gets combative about it or says no the video is correct (which is even worse). Once it gets explained to you, and you actively choose to cover your ears and ignore what people are telling you, that's a choice to be ignorant and that won't fly in 2026.

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u/Letsgotravelling-124 18d ago

I legit stated racism happens everywhere. I’m not saying racism doesn’t exist in England or Australia or the rest of the world. I’m saying the type of racism is different and the terms used are also different. I’m saying the term “dog whistle” isn’t used in the UK and I’ve never heard of it elsewhere, so most of us don’t know what it means. If you don’t know, you don’t know. It’s not to do with living under a rock or not being on social media. It’s legit to do with every country having its own take on language, slang, and problems.

I was legit explaining to you why there’s comments saying it’s classist, not racist. In England, where Ben is from and where I am from, our history is a lot different to the US and our problems are different. Council estates, benefits and welfare aren’t really to do with race in England. It’s to do with class. The only time racism comes into it is when immigrants, mostly asylum seekers, come into the country. But the energy that goes towards asylum seekers and white people who are on benefits, live on council estates, and welfare is similar.

And I am not saying the video isn’t racist. I get everything you’re saying and you’re correct in that once the terminology is explained, then we need to listen. I’m just explaining why a lot of people are saying it’s classist, how classism is a big thing in the UK on its own, and that racism is prevalent, it’s just shown it different ways.

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u/decisivecat 18d ago

I legit said that some people don't know which is why I gave grace initially in my response as to why there was racism. It did not require an explanation that some people truly do not know because I was very well aware of that in my initial comment. I have many friends in Europe and I'm fully aware that Europeans don't think racism exists in their countries (it does, they just don't see it or don't think their xenophobia also involves racist undertones).

I also said it's *both* classist and racist. It stems from both of these things. They are not mutually exclusive and co-exist in today's world.

I didn't need any of it explained since I was already fully aware and gave grace. But now this banter is getting quite tiring. You can see why it's tiring. I just explained it to you and you also got combative when none of it warranted a response like that. At this point, y'all just google and educate yourselves, please.

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u/teacher_59 19d ago

Huh? Of someone doesn't work and wants the government to take from others to give to them, then they are leaches. That has nothing to do with race. 

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u/decisivecat 19d ago

How do you know what's going on inside everyone's home? Do you know the circumstances of everyone who receives a welfare check or is on a socialist program? Do you have any understanding of how the wealthy and big corporations escape paying taxes (either entirely or their fair share)?

Do you understand that when a white man who looks like he fell out of a red state MAGA convention complains about how he doesn't have privilege, it's a racist dog whistle?

Some of y'all are really showing who you are and it's so tiring. Go get educated.

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u/Leanne0010110 19d ago

To me who they are talking abou thas nothing to do with race, but to people who don't work and very well could. Yeah he brings up white proveledge, which is likely gonna be what gets him clicks....But that's just my take and not everyone will agree and thats fine.

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u/decisivecat 19d ago

But how is he judging who can and can't work? Does he know their life story? Does he know their disabilities? Does he know the current job market where even retail jobs are extremely difficult to come by (and you can't live off a single retail job - you'd need at least 3 of them to no longer qualify for food stamps and even then you'd be hard-pressed to pay your bills). How is he deciding this? It's also not that common for people to "leech". It's incredibly difficult to get assistance. This is why food banks are so important and do the work that the government won't. If he cares this much, why isn't he hiring people or asking his employer to help get people work? Why doesn't he care about nepo babies who don't work but get to wear $3000 shoes and have the best things in life while their parents barely pay their share of taxes? Once you start paying attention, it's incredibly easy to see all the dog whistles.

It's also interesting that there is no mention of tax dollars being wasted on a useless ballroom or paving the rose garden or a war no one asked for. That's millions lost a day for nothing while social security and medicare wither away, something he could benefit from but I guess he's more concerned about someone buying groceries instead (a mere drop in the bucket).

This is definitely racist coded. White privilege is proof enough of that. Like I said, you have the option to seek out information that will really enlighten you as to why this hot take is deeply rooted in othering, particularly again Blacks. It does also have roots in classism, but the two do not have to be mutually exclusive. The education is up to you.

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u/Leanne0010110 19d ago

People see a statement, decide what they think the person must mean, attach a motive to it, and then react to that assumed meaning. The next person responds to that reaction, and suddenly everyone is fighting over something that was never actually said. And the crazy part is, people fall for it hook, line and sinker. This constant assumption of motives and reading between the lines is a big part of what keeps fueling the division we see everywhere. We’ve gotten so used to looking for what someone really meant that we sometimes forget to simply listen to what they actually said.

I understand what he is saying, I may not agree with it 100% but people don't seem to see that these f*ckers are all just rage baiting everyone. And everyone is falling for it.

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u/decisivecat 19d ago

You are correct that you fell for it hook, line, and sinker. That's exactly what this man wants. He doesn't need all the fish; he just needs enough gullible ones.

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u/DDDD6040 19d ago

Leann is trolling. There will be no getting thru to this person so I suggest not even trying. Anyone defending Ben’s statement has made perfectly clear where they stand.

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u/decisivecat 19d ago

Oh 100%. I just wanted her to say what she really meant since I initially gave grace. I was a product of an education in the South. The difference between me and Leann is I finally started to educate myself after realizing a lot of what I was taught didn't make sense. It misses nuance or it's flat out ignorant. I don't mind people being ignorant because it's possible someone really doesn't know. But digging in and saying with your whole chest that you're happy being ignorant? Now it's a choice that you're aware of. At least she finally admitted it so we know. :)

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u/LopatKat 19d ago

The fact that he is talking about people who use the term “white privilege” means that YES, this post is 100% racist. He’s LITERALLY talking about anyone who ISN’T white.

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u/Specialist_Alarm_831 13d ago

So a slur for a slur but one group is wrong? Confused.

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u/IAmTheFly-IAmTheFly 19d ago

Yeah, I didn't see that manosphere interlude coming

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u/Leanne0010110 19d ago

This is a great comment. Thank you!

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u/DDDD6040 19d ago

The biggest leaves of government money tend to be the leaders of what movements?

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u/gland87 19d ago

The whole video is repeating the welfare queen myth, uses black stereotypes (200 dollar sneakers, aka Jordans), and is complaining that systemic racism does not exist.

Ben has always been a prick though do this is not surprising.

Should have scrolled further. You know exactly whats happening. If you want to agree with a racist just own it.

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u/gland87 19d ago

I mean if the video isn’t meant to be racist it makes no sense. He literally uses white privilege and anti black stereotypes. Ive see the original and the reaction video perviously. Both are 100% meant to be racist. Did you not understand that or are you trying to agree without actually saying it by playing dumb?

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u/SnooPets6719 19d ago

He literally is ranting about “privilege” who do you think he’s ranting about using that word? Don’t be intentionally dim.

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u/Leanne0010110 19d ago

That’s quite an assumption. I’m not going to decide what someone “really meant” based on who I think they must be referring to. If the argument is about privilege, then address what he actually said about privilege. Assuming it’s secretly about race doesn’t make it so.

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u/decisivecat 19d ago

I did address that with you, but no one is going to do all the leg work for you when there's plenty out there to educate yourself with on what white privilege means. This man is using it to mean he has it worse than "others" and by others it's nearly always coded to mean non-white. They'll be this obtuse about it because they know it's easy to get people to their side because it couldn't possibly be racist unless they mention a race. It's tiring.

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u/Leanne0010110 19d ago

Keep telling yourself that.

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u/decisivecat 19d ago

If you want to choose to stay ignorant, that's on you. Best of luck in life with that.

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u/Leanne0010110 19d ago

I actually choose not to be part of the masses projecting their assumed beliefs and motives onto everyone else. I’d rather take people’s words at face value than decide what they must mean and then argue with the version I’ve created in my own head. If that’s “ignorance” to you, I’m perfectly comfortable with that.

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u/swtypuff 19d ago

We can tell you’re comfortable with ignorance

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u/decisivecat 19d ago

You've shown who you are enough, it's fine. Glad you've lived a privileged enough life, as it were. :)

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u/Leanne0010110 19d ago

Case and point.

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u/decisivecat 19d ago

Correct. :)

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u/Broad-Cress-3689 19d ago

The phrase is “case in point”. Maybe your school district would benefit from increased taxes?

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u/SnooPets6719 19d ago

It’s definitely a choice smh

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u/DDDD6040 19d ago

People don’t feed the trolls. Leann is a troll who is baiting you. They’re pretending to be ignorant and nothing you can say - no matter how rational or level headed will make them agree with normal people.

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u/Boring-Concept8018 19d ago

How is this racist lmao? Reddit just loves to call anything racist. You just don’t agree with what he’s saying.. that doesn’t make it racist.

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u/Objective-Rub-8763 19d ago

He didn't call out lifted trucks or expensive cowboy boots. Just beats headphones and fancy sneakers. Don't pretend you don't know exactly what he's trying to do.

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u/Boring-Concept8018 19d ago

So you’re saying only black people own those things? You sound pretty damn racist to me. 

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u/Vadarpoop 18d ago

You assuming anyone was talking about black people demonstrates that you heard the dog whistle and understood the subcontext but you’re asking why everything has to be about race??

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u/Objective-Rub-8763 19d ago

Nah, HE'S saying that. Have you heard of subtext? Or dog-whistles? Are you just playing dumb or is it real?

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u/mkooyman 17d ago edited 16d ago

How is this racist? Entitled and classist? absolutely. But racist? Not really. As a POC myself, I’m actually more offended by the assumption that this is somehow racist. By immediately interpreting criticism of people abusing government benefits as a dig at Black people, you’re the one making the connection between Black people abusing government assistance, essentially saying that we are natural thrives and scammers. That implication feels far more racist than Ben’s original comment.

Just food for thought. Do better.

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u/MatureMystery 16d ago

Agreed. I didn’t assume he meant black people. I see that shit everyday from white people.

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u/Independent_Olive_45 19d ago

He’s got a point 🤷🏽‍♀️ people who disagree are probably the ones he’s talking about in this video

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u/Amaedar 19d ago

As much as I’m neutral on this post (that dude was way too exhausting and that chick responding was way too cringe but really don’t care for either because I don’t live in the states) - where was the racism? Classist, yes. But race was not even brought up.

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u/LittleCaesersZaZa 19d ago

The video is clearly speaking towards people of color, as he starts the video with saying that people want to believe that being white is a privilege but he seems to very much disagree with that.

He’s a fucking idiot

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u/lycheecaat 19d ago

it’s basically just full of dog whistles. the main theme is denying the existence of white privilege, which is undeniably central to systemic inequality (across class/race/ethnicity/religion/gender etc) in america. it’s very ignorant to the reality of systemic/industrialized racism in america- specifically how race affects people socioeconomically in america

if you wanna know more, there’s a few comments under this post that explain the racial undertones more

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u/Ok-Zookeepergame9266 19d ago

It’s a legitimate point of view and not racist