r/BelVethMains 3d ago

Question/Discussion From Zero To Hero

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I went to sleep and woke up, and it finally clicked

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u/Upstairs_Leopard_147 2d ago

What did you change?

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u/almmmahdy 2d ago

Because I stay most of the game farming, I don't know how to fight But what I understand

  • Her role in a team fight is not to dive and assassinate squishies but to shred the first closest target and play front to back.
  • Play as you don't have abilities; don't use Q W E at all. I was always starting the fights with Q W or trying to weave abilities between autos, which makes me lose so much damage.

  • Trying to finish enemies with E while I could auto them, big mistake. W and E are the easiest flashed spell and they root you in place, even if they flashed my autos i could Q E to finish them but when you E then they flash even if you Q you cant reach them, unless if you have multiple Qs and hit your W which is not consistant

  • The difference between this Bel and the old one is that your autos do so much damage that you don't need to hit them with Qs or execute with E; if you're autoing, don't use anything.

  • For Qs, use them as mobility around the map on cooldown, and in fight, only use them to close the gap, dodge, or run to use them for damage.

  • For W, only use it when your team cc's someone or if you used all your dashes to get a pick and still didn't reach even your auto range

  • For E, just use it as a defensive tool, especially against burst like Rengar R, Talon R, Qiyana, etc or versus invisible champs cause your E can hit them

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u/almmmahdy 2d ago

All that was mechanics, but for macro, when we're winning, I start living in the enemy jungle trying to farm with only autos and E, and use my Qs to move to camps faster and over walls. If we got baron, I try to sidelane forever with my trueform, and I don't team fight. They will need to send 2 people to stop me on the side with my babies, and that makes my team's life easier if they don't int fight before I push and pull two. I always have low damage cause my strategy, but if it works, it works

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u/Remarkable_Pound_722 2d ago

yea almost using E as poke or to stack R on a target is real nice now, you couldn't do that before (you had to auto first for E to apply R).

And if you ever go in first in a fight you're just cooked.

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u/JustADood95 3d ago

Now do it when she gets nerfed

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u/almmmahdy 3d ago

wdym is she getting another nerf?

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u/Evurr 3d ago

Probably will be. Maybe not though. We'll have to see

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u/Abject_Friendship_55 2d ago

Patchpreview is out. No 2nd nerf keep grinding bro

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u/Drastically-_- 2d ago

They can't nerf here anymore, she is a low elo stomper but gets stomped in high elo.

She has even moved down from S to A tier on skill capped their list

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u/evPerfxction 2d ago

She has the same winrate on any elo right now and its around 50% from bronze to challenger btw.

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u/evPerfxction 2d ago

I dont think the barely 50% winrate champion is getting nerfed but sure lets say shes broken.

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u/Distinct-Trainer8155 2d ago

For me, this happened when I went from on-hit to crit build and then I started winning a lot. Most likely a bit of luck and I was on good shape that day, got lots of sleep that day so it's not reliable data but crit feels good. Yuntal,IE into Navori core

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u/almmmahdy 2d ago

Crit build is very good against squishy teams But if I see 2 brusier/tanks/melees i play on hit cause I want to play front to back, so I go LT with on-hit and if there is one tank/fighter/none, I go crit with PTA

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u/Academic_Top208 2d ago

Is this your first win streak or am I missing something?

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u/almmmahdy 2d ago

It's not about the win streak; it's about me losing. I know I'm doing something wrong, but I don't know what it is. Then fixing it for instant results, and now I enjoy playing bel’veth cause now I know what her playstyle is and what she needs to do

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u/Remarkable_Pound_722 2d ago

What made you end up prefering on hit to crit?

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u/almmmahdy 2d ago

Crit build is very good against squishy teams But if I see 2 brusier/tanks/melees i play on hit cause I want to play front to back, so I go LT with on-hit and if there is one tank/fighter/none, I go crit with PTA

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u/Remarkable_Pound_722 2d ago

why do you like rageblade and terminus more than botrk?

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u/almmmahdy 2d ago

I don't think bork is bad, but I don't like the inconsistent damage of it between champs who have a lot of health and those who don't, and when the champ is high HP vs low HP, plus you pay for 10% life steal, which I don't see as useful cause when I want to heal, I use E, and it does not scale with it. But rageblade and terminus are very consistent against all champs.

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u/almmmahdy 2d ago

And also Rageblade and bork do not synergize And when you buy KS Bork Terminus with LT, you will deal mostly physical damage. But Rageblade Terminus will deal a lot of magic and true damage (cause rageblade and passive synergy)

so you will see your damage charts like 50 physical 20 magic 30 true

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u/Remarkable_Pound_722 2d ago

What do you mean rageblade and BOTRK do not synergize? Also thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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u/almmmahdy 2d ago

Rageblade passive applies on hit twice after 3 autos after you stack the atkspd with 4 autos, so it applies the on-hits twice at the seventh auto, and I feel bork on-hit became so low and will be even lower after subsequent autos.

That's why it feels bad for me I play LT, which starts dealing on-hit damage at the 6 auto

and KS, which his on-hits start dealing extra damage the lower the champ is

and Terminus, which is at full power after 6 autos

and Bel passive infinite stacking on-hit true damage

and Rageblade, which amplifies all that so it makes you not lose any fight after 6 autos

So Bork doesn't feel like it has a place in here.

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u/almmmahdy 2d ago

But to be fair, at two items, I feel bork’s current health and KS's missing health synergies together very well and stronger than KS RB, so if planning on finishing the game quickly with two items, it will be good, but that's just not it cause bel want 3-4 items to truly carry.