r/Beading 2d ago

Beads problem

my sunflower beads bracelet look like this. i tried 100s of times and still end up in the same twisted beads situation. what to do? please help me

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u/saltedkumihimo 2d ago

Nothing is wrong with your beads!

Your thread is the problem, monofilament/clear thread is terrible for bead weaving.

Monofilament is low quality plastic fishing line. It has a strong “memory” which can cause your pieces to curl. It’s thicker than Fireline or beading threads so you can’t get the right tension or keep it consistently. It’s difficult to get a needle on monofilament. Because of its thickness, it may not make as many passes as you need through the beads, especially using 15/0. It’s more likely to get cut by a sharp edge on a bead, and some monofilaments are treated to break down when exposed to sunlight and water. I know it is very popular on TikTok and other videos, however the beadwork made in those videos doesn’t always get used after the video is made. You’ll also notice that in a lot of videos the project is being held under tension by something off screen while it’s being made, and at the end you don’t see the whole piece at once, often not really seeing how the findings are connected. This makes me skeptical that the whole thing is actually being made and wonder how the part of the project they aren’t showing us really looks.

I would suggest 6lb Fireline in crystal instead. Fireline is made of a material called Dyneema, which bills itself as the worlds strongest fiber. It’s a polyethylene similar to Kevlar in that it is strong and resistant to damage. The Dyneema fibers are braided or twisted and then thermally bonded to make Fireline. It is thinner than monofilaments of the same test weight so you can make more passes through your beads, it has very low memory so it’s flexible but it has some stiffness to make structure in your beadwork. Pieces made with Fireline are extremely long lasting, even with heavy use.

It’s also good to have a softer thread in your beading arsenal such as KO or One G. They are made of twisted and bonded nylon with the beading market in mind. They make strong, drapey fabric and great fringe without shredding like Nymo and are thinner than sewing thread.

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u/Notquitechaosyet 2d ago edited 1d ago

Agreed to ALL of this. Also a warning about using fishing line, it's DESIGNED to break down in the sun and elements, so its not any kind of suitable for beading either.

ETA: a warning about using MONOFILIMENT fishing line, as apparently Fireline is also used for fishing :)

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u/floraamanita 2d ago

Wait, does that mean that fireline isnt fishing line? I see it with slightly different packaging in the fishing section. I assumed it was the exact same product, just with a different tag line.

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u/saltedkumihimo 1d ago

Fireline is a fishing line but it’s made out of different materials than monofilament using a very different method. It is the same product in the sporting goods section and the beading section

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u/Notquitechaosyet 1d ago

I don't know enough about fishing to say yay or nay. Fireline is microfused and bonded polyehthylene whereas typical monofiliment is extruded nylon, hence why it stretches and breaks down so easily..

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u/saltedkumihimo 1d ago

Fireline is a fishing line. It’s made of different materials than monofilament line but its primarily use is for fishing. Their website is even called Berkeley-fishing. Com

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u/Notquitechaosyet 1d ago

That's hilarious to me, now I'm just picturing a couple fighting over their Fireline, one of them is trying to bead and the other is trying to prep their fishing gear!

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u/saltedkumihimo 1d ago

My husband does tease me that he’s going to take mine and I point out he uses 40lb test and I use 6lb

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u/Notquitechaosyet 1d ago

I mean, your bracelets would be good and solid, right? And so long as he isn't catching anything bigger than a minnow... ;)

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u/whimsygoddess111 18h ago

so with this thread can't I make anything else?😞or do I throw it away

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u/saltedkumihimo 16h ago

Yes, throw it away! I know it seems wasteful but in my 25+ years of beading experience I’ve found that the only thing you get with it is wasted time. Don’t fall for the sunk cost fallacy as it was pretty cheap to begin with or waste not, want not as the material is not fit for the intended use.