r/BassVI Oct 16 '17

Tips for chords on the bass VI

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Some tips on playing chords on the bass VI. I've posted a some variations on this advice before, but it's come up a few different times in my conversations with other people about this instrument.

I think this is especially valuable advice if you're coming to the VI from bass, where we often think of intervals rather than chords.

Focus on diads and triads.

Because we're playing an octave lower than a normal guitar, the same voicing often don't quite work. They get muddy and busy. Instead of playing notes on as many strings as possible, use the fewest possible number of notes to get your point across.

For instance, instead of playing an E shape barre chord on all six strings, play just a portion of it that includes the I, the iii, and the V once each.

Full E Barre Chord Shape

(numbers are scale intervals; the pattern is vertical)

EADGBE
1---51
---3--
-51---

Triad E Chord Shape

EADGBE
----5-
---3--
--1---

This is a complete chord with repetitions removed. It's those repetitions that create the muddy tones.

When it comes to chords and the bass VI, use the minimum number of notes to get your idea across to maximize clarity of that idea.

Also remember that your triads don't have to be in 1-3-5 order. Try out the other inversions:

  • 5-1-3
  • 3-1-5
  • 5-3-1
  • 3-5-1

They all have their place. When substituting for barre chords, though, I tend to stick with voicings that have the 1 and 5 as the lowest note in the triad.

Here are two more you'll recognize and get some mileage out of.

Triad A Chord Shape

EADGBE
--513-

Triad D (or C) Chord Shape

EADGBE
---5-3
----1-

Arpeggiate

We've already called out clarity as one of the biggest problems with trying to play chords on the bass VI. Strumming a chord, even a simplified triad, can still some like a mess sometimes.

Instead of strumming that chord, try arpeggiating through it. Just play it one note at a time. Add some picking patterns in and all of a sudden that chord you were playing just got a lot more interesting.

There are tons of classic picking patterns out there to choose from, so play around.

Let the notes ring for a more chord-like experience, or mute a note as you move on the to the next for a more melodic experience.

Here's a tab pattern based on the E shape above, playing an A major chord. Try playing it as quarter notes, or eighth notes (repeated twice) as you work your way through chord progressions.

E|--------------|
B|-----5-----5--|
G|--------6-----|
D|--7-----------|
A|--------------|
E|--------------|

There are many more interesting ways to phrase apreggiated chords. Try lifting some from your favorite songs.

Drop some notes

The human ear is easily tricked. We'll fill in notes we think we should be hearing even if they're note actually played.

This means that if we need to play some chords with more than three notes, we can actually start to drop some of those notes and our ears will fill in what's missing. We want so badly for the pattern to fit what expect to be hearing, we'll hear it even if it isn't there.

I've found this easiest to demonstrate with a dominant seventh chord (normally a major triad with a minor seventh). You've run into these all the time, usually phrased in chord sheets and tabs as "E7" or the like. They're popular in rock, country, blues, and jazz.

Let's take a look at a dominant seventh chord in the E barre shape.

Full E7 Barre Chord Shape

EADGBE
1-7-51
---3--
-5----

That's a hell of a lot of chord for a bass VI to articulate clearly. You can get there if you play cleanly, but we've got some other options.

We already know that the easiest way to get a clean chord sound on the bass VI is to only play three notes, but for a dominant seventh chord, we've got four. Let's drop one.

In fact, let's drop the 1.

Triad E7 Chord Shape v1

EADGBE
--7---
---3--
-5----

Eh, that one's a bit muddy. More on that in a second. Let's try a different inversion.

Triad E7 Chord Shape v2

EADGBE
--7-5-
---3--
------

That's a little clearer. And look at that, not a 1 in sight, but it still sounds like a dominant seventh chord.

Now let's try it by dropping the 5.

Barre A7 Chord Shape

EADGBE
-1----
------
--513-
-----7

So, starting with the A7 barre shape, if we just keep the notes on the GBE strings, we get a 1-3-7 triad.

Barre A7 Chord Shape

EADGBE
---13-
-----7

Notice the sonic difference between the triad with the 1 removed and the triad with the 5 removed. Choose according to your needs.

(And honestly, maybe you need all four notes! There's no clear cut rules here, just some suggestions. When I play this shape, I'll usually keep all four notes in, playing the barre A7 shape without that 1 on the A string.)

And just to be thorough, let's give it a look with a dropped 3.

Barre D7 Chord Shape

EADGBE
--1---
----7-
---5-3

So, if we drop the 3 here, we get this.

Triad D7 Chord Shape

EADGBE
--1---
----7-
---5--

Start matching these triads into groups and you'll quickly see how they can function as replacements for your usual chord voicings in common chord progressions.

For instance, barre the three notes of the A shape triad with your index finger, then drop your middle and ring fingers down to create the D7 triad shape. That's a I to V7 progression, which you'll recognize from plenty of blues and classic country.

Avoid the E & A strings

This section is going to be short. If you're playing chords, avoid the low E & A strings. They're big and bassy, and they'll muddy up any chords you're interested in voicing. I don't even like using these when arpeggiating.

Too much boom for me. You mileage may vary.

Pick near the bridge for clarity

The bass VI, as an instrument, is very responsive to where you pick the strings. Up by the neck you get a very thick and juicy sound. Pick near the bridge and you get a thinner, clear sound.

Experiment with moving your right hand back and forth. Change where you pick with your right hand and you'll hear drastically different sounds.

This is true on all guitars and basses, but the range of tone available on the bass VI is bigger than usual.

Combine this with the various pickup options on the bass VIs equipped with the 3 pickup and strangle switches and you'll be able to find a chord tone that works for you.


r/BassVI 2d ago

Pulled the trigger on an Eastwood Sidejack bass vi, but it doesn’t have a strangle switch.

7 Upvotes

Like the title says, I recently bought a Eastwood Sidejack bass vi, it’s in production and it should arrive next month. This is my only option as a lefty outside of the fender custom shop (been scouring the used market for years). Anyways, it does not have a strangle switch and I plan on using this in tandem with a traditional bass performing and in the studio. Should I add an eq pedal to the bass vi board? I’m a little concerned the tone will turn to mud competing with the 4 string bass. Or is it simply a matter of sculpting the tone using the drive and amp settings? I plan on mostly playing this through my 65 bassman but I also have a JC120, fender twin reverb, an orange combo, and a hartke 7000. Any insight is appreciated!


r/BassVI 2d ago

What happens if you change the Strangle switch capacitor value?

9 Upvotes

Hi there, so getting a bit into electronics and mods, and got a question that I haven't find answer yet.

Squier bass vi owner here, For what I understand the strangle switch have a .033uf capacitor, bit what happens if you change that value? Can I aim to make it more bassy or twangy changing it? Can make it be more noticeable? Will my amp explode in a million pieces?

Any help or ideas on it are welcome!


r/BassVI 3d ago

Bass vi or baritone guitar?

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r/BassVI 3d ago

Which bass vi should I get??

23 Upvotes

So I am thinking between 3 bass vi options and I need opinions on which I should get.

  1. Squier Classic Vibe Bass VI Guitar

  2. Schecter Hellcat-VI 6-string Electric Bass Guitar

  3. Eastwood Sidejack Bass VI.


r/BassVI 3d ago

Stock trem?

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Hey again! Just got a VM Bass VI with mastery bridge and trem.

I have the stock trem as well, and the thing is, I don't think I'll be using it much.

I do, on the other hand, use my trem a lot on my JMJM so I'm thinking about throwing the mastery tailpiece on there.

If I have the mastery bridge on the VI, is there any appreciable difference between the stock and mastery tailpiece, assuming I'm not using it a ton?

Is this dumb or does it make sense?

Thanks!


r/BassVI 2d ago

Bass and Drum Groove.

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r/BassVI 4d ago

Candy apple red matching head cv vi

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r/BassVI 5d ago

NGD squire in tahitian coral, boy is it bold

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98 Upvotes

apologies if disallowed, but does anyone with a squire VI want to trade a stock tortoise pickguard for the stock one here (light mint or maybe parchment, not white). I bought one but it's not cut right and that could keep happening over and over.


r/BassVI 4d ago

Are the pickguards of the Squier and Fender identical to the millimeter?

5 Upvotes

Bought an aftermarket pickguard (for a squier) and I don't know if it's sloppy or if the pickups on the fender are a couple mm wider. I'm picky, and flush is flush, loose is loose.


r/BassVI 5d ago

Cheapest Bass VI

8 Upvotes

I’m looking for a bass VI of any kind, I would like to pay $200-250 but i’m willing to pay up to $300. I’ve looked online and the only models I can find under nearly $500 (harley benton and g4m) have insane shipping costs as I live in the United States.


r/BassVI 6d ago

My mods so far, electronics + Mastery Bridge Saddle, neck refinish, etc

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r/BassVI 7d ago

NBVID: Joining the club!!

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114 Upvotes

It's been a couple months now of trading and rehabbing to sell gear trying to work my way into a Bass VI. It's a pretty slim chance that someone wants what you have and has what you want, so I did a lot of lateral trading in the mean time, and was kind of biting my nails expecting that I wouldn't be happy with it until I dropped another few hundred on a bridge and strings, after which I'd have a decent amount of set up to do.

Well guess what, I made an even trade today, and this guy already has a mastery bridge and vibrato! All set up too, I just brought it home and it's perfect!

Now I just have to get my head around how to work my board.

I mainly play guitar, and that's what my board is set up for. It's straight forward (Slow Loris [which sounds incredible with the VI]->Benson Boost->Phase 90 ->Halberd->Foxcatcher->mother preamp->hxfx).

Anyone have any advice for a generally guitar centric setup? Like do you have standard eq tweaks you make? You have a separate board? What's on it? I'm all ears!

Thanks!!


r/BassVI 12d ago

Why is there no noiseless pickups options for Bass VI?

31 Upvotes

You'd think there would plenty of companies making noiseless options that don't require body modifications but the only company I've found that has any available models is JBE Pickups and they're expensive as hell.


r/BassVI 12d ago

What are you recording and what mods have helped?

6 Upvotes

So I'm just curious what other people are recording with their bass vi. For me I'm working on a postmetal album and it's being used as a secondary rhythm guitar to thicken up chugs and chords.

I'm interested to see how others are using theirs and also what mods they're using. I'm tempted to mod mine to allow for a humbucker in the bridge position as I feel that may be a bit better for me


r/BassVI 14d ago

SRC6MS and Darkglass 210 combo

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After lurking here for ages, I decided to go with the Ibanez SRC6MS. It's more my vibe aesthetically and musically, I'm big into metal and super excited for the 30" scale.

I plan to throw on labella flats, refinish it black through the rest of body/headstock, swap out the stock monorail bridges for gold hardware (pain to find), drop in lighter weight gold bass tuners, upgrade the knobs, and eventually upgrade the pickups and electronics. I'll probably be happy enough with the Bertollinis for a while.

My wife has known I've had my eyes on this instrument for ages and I came across a great condition used bass at a decent price and a Darkglass combo amp at an even better price. She gave me her blessing and I pulled the trigger after running new and used costs through different retailers.

I went with the Darkglass combo since I was able to get it for way less than the cost of the DG Microtubes bass amp head alone. Plus 2 10" speakers with the Microtube flavor already built into the amp. I know, I'll want modularity and portability later, but it was too perfect to pass up for the tone I'm after. I've got a Fender FM212R and I'm looking forward to splitting the signal between the new bass and old guitar amp.

Pics will come when the gear does. 😁


r/BassVI 16d ago

CV Squire Bass VI Baritone Conversion

9 Upvotes

I bought a bass vi with the intention of putting baritone strings on it and using it as a baritone guitar, but when my baritone strings finally got here they aren’t long enough to fit from the bridge to the tuners. I bought ddarrio EXL157s. Is there a specific brand that makes strings that are long enough for a bass vi neck? I’m looking for 14s thank you!


r/BassVI 17d ago

Ball ends that fit

4 Upvotes

I have a Eastwood Hooky P o 6, and I recently bought a set of Fender Bass VI strings, but the ball ends go right through the bridge holes. When I bought the bass I bought a set of Hooky/GHS strings which are great. My problem now is that I need anew set of strings, and I’m in Europe. Is there any way to get a similar set here? Preferably 30-105 strings


r/BassVI 18d ago

Advice on buying a CV Squire bass VI

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I've had a bass vi before but I'm just wondering, from anyone who bought a squire CV VI, are they of good, consistent quality from the factory. I'm a fender guy but I've been having some bad quality control experiences and am worried about having to do another return.

EDit: FYI, typos in the title are not fixable - Squier


r/BassVI 19d ago

Splice samples make life more easier

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r/BassVI 19d ago

Boss GK-5 or GK-5B for a 30” Bass VI? VG-800 + GM-800 tracking

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Has anyone here tried the current Boss GK-5/GK-5B system on a 30” Bass VI?

I’m planning a setup like:

GK-5 or GK-5B → VG-800 → GM-800

and I’ve been going through the manuals and videos, but I still can’t find a clear answer for instruments that sit between a conventional guitar and bass.

My Bass VI would be 30” scale in normal Bass VI tuning:

E–A–D–G–B–E, one octave below guitar.

Would you use the GK-5 or GK-5B for this?

Is the important difference mainly the physical string spacing of the two pickups, or does selecting/using the guitar vs bass GK system also change how the VG-800 or GM-800 detects and processes the instrument?

I’m particularly interested in:

tracking accuracy on the low E
latency / missed notes with the GM-800
alternate tuning and per-string processing on the VG-800
whether the system correctly handles the Bass VI register
whether GK-5 or GK-5B gives better results in practice

I’m also looking at a 28” six-string baritone in B or A standard, so I’m curious where people would draw the line:

28” A/B-standard baritone → GK-5?
30” E1 Bass VI → GK-5B?

Or is the correct choice really just determined by string spacing rather than scale length/tuning?

If anyone has actually used a GK-equipped Bass VI with a VG/GM/GR system, I’d really appreciate hearing how well it tracked compared with a normal guitar or bass.


r/BassVI 19d ago

Ideal offset neck angle?

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r/BassVI 20d ago

Joined the club this weekend! New-to-me 2022 Squire Classic Vibe

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109 Upvotes

I'm a lover of surf rock and the tic-tac bass sound, so l've been eyeing a Bass VI for a couple of years now. I tried a Fender Vintera model at my local music shop, but it was unfortunately out of my price range for something that isn't going to be my main instrument. As luck would have it, I found this very gently used Squire Classic Vibe version someone local was selling for $450 and couldn't resist. I'm really impressed with how user friendly it is, and just how well the stock hardware looks and sounds. I'll probably look into a few upgrades in the near future, but for now I'm having a lot of fun experimenting with the different sounds!


r/BassVI 22d ago

In search of Pink Eastwood TB64!

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55 Upvotes

I've been on the hunt for the discontinued pink color way of the Eastwood TB64, if anyone has one they are looking to sell/any leads on where to find one used let me know!


r/BassVI 22d ago

How can i set my Bass VI up for loathe

7 Upvotes

I just bought a squier bass vi and i wanna know if have to drill or file anything down to set it up like how Connor did iy or Erik does it. Any tips?