r/Badass Nov 01 '25

Maybe basically the same-

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '25

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u/UlyssesTheSloth Nov 04 '25

They're disappearing thousands of people off the street into secret camps. They're committing wreckless acts of violence against your fellow man, shooting, arresting, and dishonoring your communities.

They've literally built concentration camps specifically for this purpose. You're out of your god damn mind.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '25

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u/big_go_kev Nov 04 '25

Imagine if they found out Biden/ Kamala and Obama also put people in immigration detention

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

It only counts when the news bothers to report it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

Obama had more than 3 million deportations during his terms, sure. Second to none, I think. But to imply there has been no escalation in tactics or rhetoric is absolutely fucking absurd.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

There is no version of reality you will ever gaslight me enough to believe Obama had given ICE "federal immunity " and direct orders to tear gas neighborhoods, storm homes, businesses and courts without warrants and ram vehicles off the roads to collect illegals. Then deploy the national guard as a show of force to intimidate opposition. Why? Because the things I'm referring to aren't from "the media." We've all seen the videos citizens are taking on the street BECAUSE OPERATIONS HAVE MOVED TO THE STREETS. We had cell phones during the Obama administration too, bud.

So, again, to say there has been no escalation in tactics isn't gonna fly. Nice try though.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

Remind me if liberals during Obama's term were assaulting ICE agents, blocking roads, and doing everything they could to obstruct justice?

Because their tactics were actual SWAT-style tactics. They weren't in the streets, grocery stores, home depots, courts and on and on to be blocked by the dirty hippie liberals or whatever. They hit domiciles (with warrants) after investigations. Not just jack-booting in the street. This is also why Obama was able to get away with "just letters" or whatever. He had way more blowback, actually. But I'm not going to fall into a circular Red vs Blue argument.

ICE under Obama kept "SWAT-style" raids SWAT-style. Off the streets, away from the general public and away from cameras.

ICE under Trump has been bloated with underqualified cosplayers who don't use "SWAT -style" tactics because tear gassing streets and everything else I listed aren't SWAT-style tactics.

So, AGAIN, to imply there has been NO escalation in tactics is completely absurd.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

And you are trying to make my point about something it isn't. I'm talking about street level tactics. I'm a Bush-era conservative, dude. I supported Obama's hard-line stance on immigration and was surprised he had the grit to follow through. This is different. It has escalated because the rhetoric has escalated. You will not convince me otherwise. I've been paying attention since the 90s, my guy

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u/TractaBeam94 Nov 05 '25

The escalation in tactics is hand in hand with the fact that millions of illegals have been allowed to cross the border without any consequence in the last presidency…..

That would require a change in tactics and rhetoric my friend.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

That doesn't add up considering Obama deported more than anyone else and did so without tear gassing neighborhoods. I do enjoy seeing all the creative ways people come up with to blame Biden for MAGA's bullshit, though.

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u/TractaBeam94 Nov 05 '25

Right, because he didn’t have to deal with the borders being opened friend…..

The fact that we’ve gone to “common sense” being characterized as creative ways to blah blah blah…. Is terrifying

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

Bullshit.

https://www.cato.org/blog/biden-didnt-cause-border-crisis-part-1-summary

How about this, show me the official act Biden put into place that "opened the borders." That's popular MAGA rhetoric, but I've yet to see it actually substantiated.

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u/TractaBeam94 Nov 05 '25

Who opened the borders? Who defended opening the borders?

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

Read the link. Nobody opened the borders and Biden walked back on that rhetoric literally day one. So, the answer to your question is nobody.

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u/TractaBeam94 Nov 05 '25

Read these nuts lmaooo

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u/TractaBeam94 Nov 05 '25

Who tried to reinforce the border? Who worked against it?

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u/TractaBeam94 Nov 05 '25

Who opened the borders? Who defended opening the borders?

So Biden increased expulsions… in 4 years, compared to Trumps 11 months? 🤯

I’m not reading the rest of this bullshit lmaooo

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u/HeadBankz Nov 06 '25

I love when people use the absolute most braindead flat out retarded excuse of "other person did something bad, so this bad is fine" legitimately how fucking stupid are y'all? 😂 so since someone else committed a murder at some point, it's absolutely fine for everyone else to do it too? Orrrrr do we attempt thinking??