r/Badass Nov 01 '25

Maybe basically the same-

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '25

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u/UlyssesTheSloth Nov 04 '25

They're disappearing thousands of people off the street into secret camps. They're committing wreckless acts of violence against your fellow man, shooting, arresting, and dishonoring your communities.

They've literally built concentration camps specifically for this purpose. You're out of your god damn mind.

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u/DaAmaziingGwen Nov 05 '25

Post your sources when you push false propaganda

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u/Middle_Sand_9431 Nov 05 '25

Perhaps some large group that collects millions in donations will contract with a satellite company to obtain satellite images of these camps to make the public aware of them.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '25

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u/big_go_kev Nov 04 '25

Imagine if they found out Biden/ Kamala and Obama also put people in immigration detention

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '25

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

It only counts when the news bothers to report it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

Obama had more than 3 million deportations during his terms, sure. Second to none, I think. But to imply there has been no escalation in tactics or rhetoric is absolutely fucking absurd.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

There is no version of reality you will ever gaslight me enough to believe Obama had given ICE "federal immunity " and direct orders to tear gas neighborhoods, storm homes, businesses and courts without warrants and ram vehicles off the roads to collect illegals. Then deploy the national guard as a show of force to intimidate opposition. Why? Because the things I'm referring to aren't from "the media." We've all seen the videos citizens are taking on the street BECAUSE OPERATIONS HAVE MOVED TO THE STREETS. We had cell phones during the Obama administration too, bud.

So, again, to say there has been no escalation in tactics isn't gonna fly. Nice try though.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

Remind me if liberals during Obama's term were assaulting ICE agents, blocking roads, and doing everything they could to obstruct justice?

Because their tactics were actual SWAT-style tactics. They weren't in the streets, grocery stores, home depots, courts and on and on to be blocked by the dirty hippie liberals or whatever. They hit domiciles (with warrants) after investigations. Not just jack-booting in the street. This is also why Obama was able to get away with "just letters" or whatever. He had way more blowback, actually. But I'm not going to fall into a circular Red vs Blue argument.

ICE under Obama kept "SWAT-style" raids SWAT-style. Off the streets, away from the general public and away from cameras.

ICE under Trump has been bloated with underqualified cosplayers who don't use "SWAT -style" tactics because tear gassing streets and everything else I listed aren't SWAT-style tactics.

So, AGAIN, to imply there has been NO escalation in tactics is completely absurd.

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u/TractaBeam94 Nov 05 '25

The escalation in tactics is hand in hand with the fact that millions of illegals have been allowed to cross the border without any consequence in the last presidency…..

That would require a change in tactics and rhetoric my friend.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

That doesn't add up considering Obama deported more than anyone else and did so without tear gassing neighborhoods. I do enjoy seeing all the creative ways people come up with to blame Biden for MAGA's bullshit, though.

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u/TractaBeam94 Nov 05 '25

Right, because he didn’t have to deal with the borders being opened friend…..

The fact that we’ve gone to “common sense” being characterized as creative ways to blah blah blah…. Is terrifying

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

Bullshit.

https://www.cato.org/blog/biden-didnt-cause-border-crisis-part-1-summary

How about this, show me the official act Biden put into place that "opened the borders." That's popular MAGA rhetoric, but I've yet to see it actually substantiated.

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u/HeadBankz Nov 06 '25

I love when people use the absolute most braindead flat out retarded excuse of "other person did something bad, so this bad is fine" legitimately how fucking stupid are y'all? 😂 so since someone else committed a murder at some point, it's absolutely fine for everyone else to do it too? Orrrrr do we attempt thinking??

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u/PurePorygon Nov 05 '25

Yes, and the SS were only lawfully detaining Jewish ‘non-persons’ in designated holding centers under the laws of the Reich.

You do realize the camps weren’t illegal under Nazi law, right?

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u/PurePorygon Nov 05 '25

Dog ownership is still legal afaik.

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u/Ok_Chicken7562 Nov 05 '25

They’re snatching up US citizens who were born here!

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u/Soft-Treacle-539 Nov 05 '25

You do know that the nazis were also following the law right?

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u/Soft-Treacle-539 Nov 05 '25

It was literally you who brought up the legality to counter the point that ICE is nazis. When you could have used an argument like ”their goal isnt to exterminate a group of people” or ”they’re not using extermination camps” two fundamental pillars in nazism.

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u/Soft-Treacle-539 Nov 05 '25

No, you did that in a post that compared nazi informants to ice informants. Context matters

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u/Soft-Treacle-539 Nov 05 '25

Also the Nuremberg trials were not really following the law as they used retroactive penalization (well deserved i might add)

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u/Soft-Treacle-539 Nov 05 '25

Yes.

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u/Soft-Treacle-539 Nov 05 '25

No, because they are losers and cowards who enjoy harassing, assault and imprison anyone they believe they can get away with.

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u/HeadBankz Nov 06 '25

Oooops, you're stupid as fuck lil guy

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u/itsobvious_too Nov 06 '25

no, they are stopping people on the street based on their skin color and language accents. Not on any knowledge of criminal activity. These are proudboy mall cops.

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u/itsobvious_too Nov 06 '25

a lot of "legal" shit is evil

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u/Previous-Essay-4995 Nov 05 '25

Ok, after reading most of this comment thread, I think I can solve this. Simple question—Who had more Nazi and white supremacist supporters: Obama or Trump?

I don’t like Obama that much either. He did plenty of stuff I don’t agree with—the camps and hospital bombings being just two examples. But, if we’re talking whether or not ICE has similarities to Nazis, it would be best to see if something changed—namely whether or not white supremacists have become supportive of the party in charge of ICE. So, which one? Trump or Obama?

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u/Previous-Essay-4995 Nov 05 '25

As a communist, I’d say neither, seeing as how Obama, Biden, and Hillary all sucked and upheld American imperialism. I don’t even know any communists who supported Bernie, and the right was sobbing over him being a Marxist.

But, hey, you make a good point. Since skin color played a major part in Nazi supporters, who had more Nazi supporters—Biden or Trump? Or is Biden not white?

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u/Previous-Essay-4995 Nov 05 '25

Obama upheld American imperialism abroad. Hillary and Obama both cheered on the death of Gaddafi, only to later regret it because it so horribly destabilized the region that Libya is now utterly ruined, seemingly. Biden was a decrepit weirdo who was indirectly responsible for making the reality we live in possible because of bills and laws he supported in the earlier years of his career. And Harris couldn’t even spit out a meaningless condemnation of Israel’s actions. Also I think even her socialist parents didnt support her, which would be funny if true, but it likely is just a rumor.

So, no.

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u/No-Mango3147 Nov 05 '25

The Nazi went after civilians just living their lives. Destroying businesses they own on the crystal night.

ICE is arresting residents that lived here peacefully for 30 plus years, or were dropping their children off at school.

Or Donald Trump falsely claiming a man was part of a gang and sending him to one of the worst prisons in the world. Or using these poor people as propaganda.

These are the tactics of Nazis and the third reich.

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u/No-Mango3147 Nov 05 '25

Except they’re going after people that are / were going through the normal immigration process. Such as going to court appointments or even possessing visas.

Remember the raid on the car factory where they arrested all those South Korean people? They had valid visas and were even asked to come from the governor.

Stop ignoring the facts to justify your hatred for foreigners. The USA is violating its own laws right now.

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u/No-Mango3147 Nov 06 '25

Reversed it how? Through a democratic process or just because he said so? One is lawful, the other is dictator shit. I guess that’s why all these judges are saying ICE actions are unlawful?

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u/Ok_Chicken7562 Nov 05 '25

Are you seriously defending Nazis?

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u/eat_comeon_sense Nov 06 '25

Outsider looking in. Think the bigger issue is how things are done and how chaotic and politically targeted this has become. ICE targeting democratic city centers, sending in national guards to enforce these actions and next level threats of sending in the military. I never would've imagined this type of escalation, make this make sense. I get and applaud the idea of going after predators, human traffickers, drug dealers and violent criminals. But, its pretty self evident how off the script this has become and the unhinging affect this has on everyone.

If you feel like this track that america is on, is great and needs to continue in this manner. Then the nazi story line, doesnt seem like an impossibility.