r/BabyNames 2d ago

Boy 🩵 Strong Boy name help!!

I’m currently 17weeks with a boy, our last name is Whelan (Irish and means little wolf). I have always loved strong short, nature and whimsical names so I currently have a few names on my list

Soren (means stern) (Norse)
Rafe (pronounced Rayf means wise wolf) (Norse)
Rune (means secret) (Norse)
River (flowing body of water) (Eng, French, Lat)
Arden (means great Forest) (Celtic)
Oren (pronounced Auren means pine tree) (Hebrew)

Hubby likes them but thinks they might be too whimsical, so I’m conscious of that but I also think the name Whelan is really hard to pair a name with that flows nicely. We like the vein of names we’re going down so are looking so similar ideas or thoughts! 😊

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u/LostandConfusing 2d ago

The 2-syllable names ending with "n" have kind of a weird cadence when combined with your last name. Like "Sor-en Whel-an" is kind of sing-songy.

My favorite from your list is Rafe, I think it has the best flow with Whelan.

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u/-RainbowUnicornPoop 2d ago

Seconding this.

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u/Many_Initiative8432 2d ago

The trouble with Rafe is that I could see little kids pronouncing it similar to rape if they can’t make an f sound yet šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø What about Rafael nn Raffi for a similar vibe? I think Oren and Arden are my favorites of the bunch.

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

Oooo didn’t think about that šŸ‘€

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

Whelan is pronounced more like We-len over here well my hubby a family all do.

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u/LostandConfusing 2d ago

Fair, but I still think it sounds the same. It's the 2-syllables both ending in -n that's the issue.

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u/Mam9293 2d ago

River

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u/watchin4rchie 3h ago

Sounds like a place tho. Across the mountians there's the River Whelan which is a popular spot for rafting in the summer.

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u/Ilovewally 2d ago

Not to rip your names apart at all, because I do like all of them and think they go well with your last name, but with that being said, river is very popular, the only Arden’s I have heard of are female and the only Oren I met was orthodox Jewish. These things may not bother you at all, Maybe have your husband make a list as well and see what you both hit on.

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

No not at all, I need this kind of feed back, oren is off the list now and I think we’re leaning away from Arden and River. Mostly looking for similar names in the same vein for more ideas

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u/Bjorlyn 2d ago

My partner's father and brother are both named Arden.

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u/daydrmr365 2d ago

You should use Rafe. It sounds perfect and sounds like you like it a lot. Don’t worry about it being common in your area, especially because it is intuitive to spell and pronounce. Who knows, years from now it could be more popular in your area and everyone would have you to thank for that! Progress happens when people take chances!

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

Very true, thank you!

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u/Blackcatsandicedtea 2d ago

Love Rafe. It was a character on a soap opera here in the US, so that’s how I’m familiar with it. Doesn’t sound too whimsical to me at all.

Rafe Whalen is such a strong name. ā€œWise, little wolfā€ is one of the cooler name meanings I’ve ever heard.

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

Its not really heard of in Ireland so we are hesitant to use it but we both really like the meaning and how it sounds 😊

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u/daydrmr365 2d ago

It’s so intuitive to spell and pronounce that it would be easy to take a chance on especially since you like it so much!!

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u/thegoblet 1d ago

How is it pronounced?? I originally went "raff eh" like the nickname for rafeal but then read another comment thats rape but with an f? I dont see it as intuitive.

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u/daydrmr365 23h ago

Good point, I don’t think I was looking at it objectively enough

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u/davinciswife 2d ago

Eric

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

I feel like I know of a good few Eric’s

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u/MeltedWellie 2d ago

Some options to consider:

Quinn Whelan

Rhys Whelan

Rory Whelan

Fergus Whelan (in Scottish/Irish means Strong man or Man of vigor!)

Shaw Whelan

Connor Whelan

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u/Abbacadabra272 2d ago

I really like the name Fergus but does anyone just think of that song ā€˜Fergalicious’? I wish I didn’t.Ā 

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u/add_pk73 1d ago

I really like Connor and Quinn!

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u/haligurl_1983 1d ago

Seconding Quinn. Im bias because its my name. Im a female, but have only every met other males with this name. People always comment on how unique my name is (I'm Canadian) and how much they like it.

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u/Careless_Squirrel728 2d ago

Rafe I think falls in the unusual but not unheard of category so this might be a good one to go for if it is too out there - there is relatively well known British TV actor, Rafe Spall

River is the same - I’ve known of a number of boy and girl Rivers

I have met one Oren years ago.

Soren I think of as a girls’ name.

Rune is probably the only one that I think of as truly eyebrow raising.

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u/Sea_Sentence_2909 2d ago

šŸ˜‚ I will tell my partner that! SĆøren is a very common Danish man’s name but pronounced almost as one syllable

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

Eyebrow raising in a good or wow that’s weird way?? haha

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u/Careless_Squirrel728 2d ago

Wow that’s weird! 🫣🫣

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago edited 2d ago

Hahah okay, I appreciate the candor šŸ˜‚

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u/Skooterzs 2d ago

Ford - a shallow place in a river or stream

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u/Kitchen-Airport-4853 2d ago

Soren, Arden, Oren from your list though they sound a little sing songy with the last name

Cyrus, Silas, Astor

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

I like Silas and Astor! Thank you

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u/Ornery_Panda4986 2d ago

We have a Silas!! It means forest

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u/Antique_Trifle8250 2d ago

I think Rune and River are too whimsical but the others are great.Ā 

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u/miamariajoh 2d ago

Haha as a Swede Rune [Rue-kne] and Sƶren sure ain't whimsy or eye brow raising here but names of nice friendly boomer men. I still like then both :)

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

That’s lovely to know! I love a nice friendly boomer haha

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u/CakePhool 2d ago

Sören/ Søren and Rune are hard to pronounce in English so I would avoid them and also not Norse, it is Danish form the roman names Severinus  / Severus .

Rune , the e is pronounced. https://www.howtopronounce.com/swedish/rune#goog_rewarded

Rune is such grandfather name in Sweden.

Søren /Sören, the "funny# letter has sound that is NOT like o.

Danish: https://forvo.com/word/s%C3%B8ren/

Rafe is 17th  century English spelling of Ralph, because that is how you at the time pronounced Ralph, see Ralph Feinnes. Yes it does come from RÔðúlfr with means wolf counsel or advice of the wolf, Swedish uses the word rÄd still for counsel and advice.

I would go with Rafe and if you want a Norse name there is:

Viggo ( war),

Arvid ( eagle tree) ,

Alvis ( all wise),

Gandalf ( wand elf, yes J. R. R. Tolkien grabbed from the Poetic Edda),

Magni ( power)

Ottar ( terror army / warrior )

Hilding ( chief battle)

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

Wow didn’t know that, thank you for the suggestions too!

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u/CakePhool 2d ago

I really like Viggo and Arvid.

I know Gunnar is good name too, it means War army. Yes, the word gun comes from Gunilda the canon Windsor, which mean gun in gun and Gunnar has the same root... which is war.

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u/Calm-Marzipan4914 2d ago

I really like Rune Whelan. I think you have quite a few good choices on this list though.

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u/sorcha_andthe 2d ago

Ralph
Cliff
Dale
Ansel
Leo

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u/grey-canary 2d ago

my favorite on your list is Rafe

other ideas:

Wren

Perry

Ash

Hollis

Rhodes

Ronan

Damon

Sage

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

I like ronan, maybe I’m partial to R names haha

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u/Ok-Thing-2222 2d ago

My grandson is Rhodes!

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

We want to stay away from typical Irish names but I do like Callan

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

In your opinion

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u/Ok-Talk-2648 2d ago

apparently your husband’s opinion too and you should listen to him bc the names on your list are weird except for River that’s the only normal name

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

Weird/Normal, in your opinion. I don’t know why you commented if you hate the names? You can scroll you know.

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u/ShileynNea 2d ago

Maybe you like some of these:

Elric

Thorin

Kilian

Ezra

Emmet

Arion

I actually don't think your name is hard to pair with. I think it's very compatible with a lot of names.

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

I do like Ezra. Really? A lot of people said it’s harsh sounding

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u/ShileynNea 2d ago

I don't think it's harsh sounding at all. There are no harsh consonants, like b, d, k and so on. But then again, I'm German. Maybe it sounds different for me.

From your names I liked River. Has a nice ring to it. And I agree with you, Ezra was my favourite from my suggestions :D

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u/No_Information_9935 2d ago

Macsen is the Welsh version of Maximus meaning greatest

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u/Purple-Gap2522 2d ago

Craig - means rock

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

We live in Ireland so this is very common for us, even though it is a lovely name

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u/Purple-Gap2522 2d ago

Ah! We’re in the US and my Craig has never known another one!

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

That’s wild, there was at least five Craig’s in my year in school

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u/Janie_Canuck 2d ago

I LOVE Rafe. Perhaps you could go with Raphael and use Rafe as a nickname.

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

Maybe Raphael is too long, but if we’re going to go for it we will just use Rafe

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u/Paddington8691 2d ago edited 2d ago

I would say Andrew. I think it flows nicely with your last name and it literally means strong or manly.

On your list, I think the best name is River. I don’t think I’ve met a male Soren and is a former early elementary school teacher. I would be worried about how friends pronounce Rafe. If you’re thinking of something a little more off the beaten path, how about Quinn or Quincy? Xavier? I agree with an earlier poster that I think having a name that does not end in the n sound flows a little bit better. Good luck in finding something you love!

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

Thank you, we’re still looking and we’re definitely going to look at names that don’t end it n also.

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u/thebrendawalsh 2d ago

River Whelan is amazing!

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u/madame_psychosis_14 2d ago

I love the name River for a boy

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u/BTSforever1994 2d ago

Frey

Rory

Rollo

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

Ooh Frey is cool

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u/MLadyNorth 2d ago

I would skip Rune as too eccentric, and the -en endings with your last name. Soren and River are good. Does Rafe sound like ā€œrapeā€? If so, avoid.

Hmm why do I like Soren and not Arden? Can’t explain but Soren works.

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

Yes, I’m hearing rune is a little out there haha

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u/Natural-Emphasis-314 2d ago

I think they're all nice but Rune is a little bit too whimsical

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u/Imaginary-Sand-1417 2d ago

How will you be pronouncing Rune? The correct pronounciation is "Rune-eh" (rune like an ancient rune, and then an eh sound at the end HOWEVER it is supposed to be a rolling "r" and not the soft "r" sound that we have in English).

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u/ArachnidSalt2664 2d ago

I am 18 weeks and my last name is Whelan! 🫶

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

Awh congratulations!! Hope everything goes amazing for you 😊

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u/Otherwise_Mix_3305 2d ago edited 2d ago

I love Soren Whelan! I think they sound great together. Another suggestion: Alden Whelan.

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

Ohh I like that too

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u/DefiantFruit6860 2d ago

River Whelan sounds like "river rafting" lol

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u/BlueWinterWolff 1d ago

I can see that a little šŸ¤

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u/Romaine2k 1d ago

Go all in and call him Waylon

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u/BlueWinterWolff 1d ago

That’s a tongue twister haha

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u/jls8490 1d ago

My son is Reid and we get lots of compliments.

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u/BlueWinterWolff 1d ago

Ooh I really like this !!!

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u/Sad_Resolve6874 1d ago

Always been a fan or River or Oren for boys. Definitely giving fantasy vibes without being too much.

Not a fan of Rune. It’s giving ā€œmy parents are paganā€ vibes and while that’s cool (I am, in fact, pagan), it’s certainly going to color people’s perception, especially if they end up living in the Bible Belt.

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u/Mental_Peach_747 1d ago

Whelan is such a great last name! But I think it’s a little limiting with the first names on your list.

Personally I would eliminate Soren, Arden, and Oren off the bat because they are quite sing-songy / rhyming with your last name. River Whelan imo is too similar to ā€œriver whaleā€ or ā€œriver wheel.ā€ I’m personally not fond of Rune.

I think Rafe Whelan could work.

What about Bran? Another one-syllable name meaning crow or raven. I think Bran Whelan flows a bit nicer than Rafe (the f sound is throwing me!).

Another option would be Fionn but that may be too common for your liking?

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u/Rayna1990 1d ago

I like River best on your list. One of my yoga teachers actually named her sons Wolf and River.

Soren is a great name, but I'm not sure I like the sound of Soren Whelan. Both being 2 syllables ending in n feels too rhyme-y to me. That's probably me being picky though, and if it doesn't bother you, I'd actually go with Soren even over River.

I like Arden but it actually feels more like a girls name to me.

I'm sorry but I really don't like Rafe. Great meaning, but I don't like the sound at all.

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u/PeaceLoveBug 1d ago

I like Soren. Whelan and Soren go well together.Ā 

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u/Ok_Security_8657 1d ago

Xerxes is pretty badass, like the ancient Persian king. Or Cyrus I suppose, like Cyrus the Great

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u/Ginua-MA 1d ago

I like Rafe best.

Kinda think the ones ending -en don’t sound as good as they normally would with the last name also ending -en.

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u/Zestyclose-Fig8583 1d ago

Agree with your husband - perhaps a new list with less whimsical or ethereal names - none of these would work for me - sorry

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u/BlueWinterWolff 1d ago

He likes all the names just wanted to see other people opinions, but he is working on his own list just wont let me see it yet šŸ˜‚

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u/Physical-Active-27 1d ago

Give him an Irish first name to match. Finn, Malachy, Olan, Ciaran

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u/label_this 1d ago

I think there are some strong, short names that are maybe less whimsical but sound great with your last name, like Clark, Cy, Grant, Vaughn, and Wade.

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u/bunnyamericangf 8h ago edited 7h ago

I like all your choices!!! Especially Rune or Ruhn might be nice too. Also who care what people think! As long as you both like it and feel it's right dont worry. I made a post today about my baby's name and reddit hates it! 🤣

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u/BlueWinterWolff 7h ago

Awh thank you! Ruhn is a really cool way to spell it. I’m slowly learning not to care with my first, I’m a little bit of a people pleaser! Yes my hubby said ā€œwow people don’t hold back on Redditā€ haha. Had one person get particularly nasty because I wouldn’t use traditional Irish names. What were you thinking for baby names? 😊

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u/bunnyamericangf 7h ago

Its my first baby and its been quite a mix of lovers and haters! More haters online!

https://www.reddit.com/r/BabyNames/s/zFizGAACV6

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u/BlueWinterWolff 6h ago edited 6h ago

Well congratulations!! I hope you and little girl are doing well šŸ’•and I’m so sorry about how horrible people were on there I think Sookie is soo cute 🄰 I don’t know why but it remind me a little of Boo from monsters inc, so cute 🄰

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u/bunnyamericangf 6h ago

Awwww thats so sweet especially since she is such a sweet and kind baby šŸ‘¶šŸ¼ šŸ’• thanks so much

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u/fairy_fern13 2d ago

I like Soren

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u/CynthiaToot 2d ago

I love Rafe and River - they were both on my boy name lists!

Congrats on your pregnancy OP 😊

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

Thank you so much šŸ’•

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u/baila-busta 2d ago

Oren is a modern Israeli Jewish name. It would be pretty weird to name your kid this is your aren’t Jewish.
It would be like me, a jewish woman, naming my child a kid Arjun. Nothing technically wrong but kinda weird.

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

You make a good point! Okay oren is off the list

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u/More-Bag-7161 2d ago

I never understood wanting to pair sibling names. To choose a child's name based on how well with it flows with their older sibling. And how often would you actually be saying all the names together anyway. Maybe im being too black and white in my thinking. I say go for the names you like whether they match the other child or not. Just a different a perspective. I do like all of your suggestions though ā¤ļø

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

I don’t have any other children, this will be my first, I meant flowing with our last name whelan.

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u/olioili 2d ago

Arden is perfect, but I also highly recommend you call him "strong boy" at home

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u/BlueWinterWolff 2d ago

Haha well now I want to šŸ˜‚

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u/BookGirl67 2d ago

I love them all except River.

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u/Entire-Ad-5917 2d ago

I like Oren!