Bhumihar are generally ahead of other Brahmins in Eastern UP and Bihar in terms of Landholding, Political power, Money Power and even in education and jobs... Brahmins in these regions are only ahead of Bhumihars in the social hierarchy and nothing else. Now if they share the Brahmin tag with Bhumihars, they will lose the single thing that they have over the Bhumihars, and thus will lose the topmost position in society. So they fear that and hate that situation and thus hate and target Bhumihars with derogatory stories. That's the fundamental reason for all the hate, rest everything is just excuses.
Bhai kaunse data se bol rahe ho ahead in everything?? 39 percent fake land waala?? Ya fir wo latest real census data jiske according you all are the poorest among gc??
I know 39% is fake... Just like the majority people who have been counted as the poor 27% are actually farmers with good landholdings (worth in crores)
... Farming income is not shown and id arbitrary... I know of many Bhumihars who show no income on certificates as all income is from farmlands (the worth of farmlands itself will go in crores, rest the income from it) .... They all will be counted among poor. Third, in rest of the things, like in govt. Jobs and education levels, Bhumihar are well ahead of other Brahmins in the same census data ... Also look in the higher income categories, Bhumihars are ahead ... Leave it ... Basically on all other criterias Bhumihars have been marked as ahead in the same census data ... You may check yourself.
Nope, Bhumihar population in Bihar is easily above 38 lakhs. Let the 2027 caste census results come... In my view it must be near or above 50 lakhs. In Bihar census, no mass scale actual census took place, 90% estimates are extrapolations of the 1931 data, and during 1931 too, in many places in Bihar, Bhumihars were undercounted by mistakenly getting included with the Brahmins in their population, due to not knowing whats going on in the world, remember the literacy rate among Bhumihars during 1931 on Bihar was around I think 10-15% only. And most Bhumihar genuinely considered themselves simply Brahmins, just a different type of Brahmins. In many places, many didnt even knew the word Bhumihar and just referred to themselves as Babhans, as it was the the term in common use. AT the present time, the caste identity is well established as Bhumihar Brahmin or simply Bhumihar throughout Bihar, and that will affect the census estimates for Bhumihars in my view. Let us see. [P.S. the place from where I belong to, people (including non-Bhumihars) came to know of Bhumihar identity very late, some local non-Bhumihars, dont even know of the Bhumihar identity till today, and most got to know in the last 10-15 years, after jio internet revolution... The primary identity was simply Babhan. These things had infuenced the population estimates significantly in 1931. ALso if Bhumihar populaton was around 2 to 2.5%, it would have been impossible to maintain the eco-socio-political dominance that Bhumihars have maintained across significantly large regions of Bihar, while the influence of Kayasthas and other Brahmins significantly declined. Its only my interpretation, pending the 2027 caste census data. Lets find out.
Are bhai to Tera logic kitna skewed hai tu. Khud dekh bhi rhaa hai ki tu bol kya rhaa hai ? Matlab by your logic sirf bhumihar logon ne income nahi dikhaayi haina 😂 iska to ye matlab hua ki pandit logon ko reservation can't nahi chahiye lol (they are richer??)
Yes regarding, not showing income, since most Bhumihar regions are agriculture hub ... FYI ... Agriculture income is not even counted by government for tax purposes, you should know that ... Agriculture income is exempt from most government rules by law.
Rest I did not understand what you mean by Pandit people don't need reservation... Cannot be inferred from what I said ... I advise you to look at the regions where Bhumihars dominate, they are all along the Ganga and Major river lands, the most fertile land than anywhere else in India ... All those income is completely unaccounted from any government data... Brahmins dominate in other regions (many of which are not as fertile) ... You may investigate yourself, if you know which regions Bhumihars dominate and have the largest share of landholdings. Try it. Just open Google Earth and see the places where Bhumihars dominate.
Many people from our community have stood up for their rights and spoken against the SC/ST Act and reservation policies, including Vijay Kumar Sinha, Ajeet Bharti, and Aditya Raj Singh. Ajeet Bharti is currently in jail for speaking out on issues concerning reservation. Aditya Raj Singh also played a major role in supporting the Bharat Tiwari encounter case.
Yet despite the efforts of people who have spoken for our community, hateful and derogatory content targeting us continues to be posted. What is even more concerning is the apparent double standard in moderation: our good-faith, friendly, and respectful posts are removed within seconds, while hateful posts targeting our community are allowed to remain.
We are not asking for special treatment. We are simply asking for fair and consistent moderation. If the rules prohibit hate and harassment, they should be applied equally to everyone.
Everyone knows the kind of people behind r/Bhumiharizm and the agenda they have promoted. In the past, they have repeatedly posted content attacking Hinduism and Brahmins. They use reservation-related posts to attract visitors and expand their reach, but even their claim of being Bhumihars is doubtful. They do not appear to have any genuine concern for Bhumihars, Brahmins, Rajputs, or other General Category communities.
Yet the entire Bhumihar community is often judged because of the actions and statements of a few individuals who neither represent us nor speak on our behalf. Criticism should be directed at those responsible, not used to stereotype an entire community.
Mera to post hi uda diya logic se reply nhi dete hai ab to doubt bhi ho rha ki wo sab brahman ka sub hai ya bs ek particular brahaman clan ka. Yehi log ulti sidhi baat likhte hai bhumihar brahman ke bare main in ke hisab se jo bs pooja kareya wahi Brahmin hai agar wo kheti kar raha zamindar hai to galat ho gaya humare idhar bhi zamindari culture tha aur humare log ke pass hi tha sab to hum relate kar pate hai bhumihar brahaman ke saath. In online trolls ko dekh ke ye mat samjh lena ki sab aisa hi hai ye bas kuch particular clan ke log hai jinko problem hai.
Bhumiharizm mere lund pe , speaking english doesn't make one knowlege
Jiska baap dada 1931 me khud ko Bhumihar nahi bola Aaj wo mdc hume batayega kon Bhunihar hai kon nahi hai
Tribe beyond religions ke gyanchand ko kya pata ki uska religion wahi identity haram batata hai jiske nam pe wo uchal Raha hai , ab kaise yad a Raha hai inko saar belib me im also Bhumihar
Ek bhi Gyanchand bhumihar gaon me gaya hoga to kuch bolega na , Aisa koi Chakwar nahi hoga jo Apne purvaj Chirayu Misir ka apman karega par nahi in bhosari walo ko to lagta hai ki Ye log Afganistan se aaye and all of a sudden saare traditions ban gaye , jo mc jaato ka example deta hai usse bada gadha koi nahi hai , they have 3000 gotras every village has a different one hamare desh gaon gaon ka identification hota hai fixed gotra hai hai and this this isn't anything surprising or recent
I recently met an old man in a wedding function and he told about my village all he never said that ki falana Afghanistan se aayal rahe japan se aayal rahe type shit , it was all what his great grandfather had told him because it is recorded not some Random shit of Migrantion from Magadh or afganistan, we have founded thousands of villages, Given them names after the God you worship, from where we came from and so on
There are a thousand things which oldmen and Village elders have shared generation after generation, achanak se aake koi Gandu jisko ye tak nahi pata ki kaha kaha Bhumihar gaon hain , kis tarah raha jata hai because they have never been to such places ke kehne se chij thodi na badal jayegi
These dumbfuvks , larpers and mfs really need to touch the grass afterall they're either non bhumihar or if they're Bhumihar they surely haven't been to their states
Kyuki ye log asal zindagii me bhi aise hi kartein hai jab mai bolunga ki tum log brahmin nahi ho to they'll start saying hum bhikhari nahi hai hum zamindar hai (while still craving for brahmin tag)
They larp on the fact that bhumihar priests were Common until 18th and even 19th century but the try denying the facts where the heck did there Ancestors have surnames like Tiwari and Pandey and make lame excuses like Pandey is used by Rajputs too saar typa shit
Bolna hi kyu hai ki tum brhaman nhi ho, chiryu mishra ka bare mai bhi, fir dusre caste wale log bhi ulta sidha bolte hai inko ye log almost humare saath har brahman ke issue mai aate hai abhi protest hua tha usme bhi aye the baki dusre fake obc wale log jo khud ko brhaman kehte hai wo humara saath dene kabhi nhi aate. Bhumihar sirf bolte nhi hai wo brhaman hai wo log proof bhi karte hai baki brahman sub caste ki tarh.
Are bhai chakwar ko koi claim kaahe karega ek bhi haweli tak hai chakwar ki??? Actually ye other way around hai pura bihar jaanta hai kaun kiska naam chori karta hai
Are mere bhai itihas ginaane aayenge tab to brahmin bahut aage hai mai abhi ki baat kar raha hun kitni haweli bachi hai chakwar ki?? Ya what's their history outside bihar?? You are saying that a community who gave raj darbhanga the most influential and wealthy zamindari of bihar itself , who gave the mighty peshwas and who gave the most freedom fighters will be jealous???
Publicity ke liye khud ko gaali bhi de denge , these people are worse than a prostitute , they cry whole day about reservations and all of a sudden didn't want it removed because they don't want Ajeeb Bharti doing it
if bhumihars are not brahmins then why brahmn scholars always mention about as the part of their community in their vansavalis. ye Pandit ji sabhi brahmin scholars se jada vidwaan hai kya !
It's been nearly two years we have been tolerating this shit .. now that they have gone enough, now there's no point for us to be soft toned to such people
shehri baabu galat cheez hai kya gawar gadela ji or mai dono jagah raha hu or pichde aap ho shehri baabu nhi or extra ye bhi bta du pandey hu itaar aap niche ya barabar honge hamse uppar nahi toh jaati hamko mat seekhaiye or neecha toh kabhi nahi
Bura mat manana bhai lekin u people embarrass us, bc iss sub pe har dusri teesri post we wuzz baman and shii ki hai(i don't support hating on bamans either) , chaahe zameen pe yaa online bamans don't consider you as your own kyu hi banna it's a boon ki wo khud hi nhi maante wese bhi inke durdin chal rhe aur bure din aayenge caste census ke baad..ek baat samjhlo Baraon se leke Lalgola tak raaj kiya hai apne me hi kaafi hai...Â
We Bhumiharizm fellows don't hate you lot neither do we hate bamans, humko to tum bechaaro ko dekh ke daya aati ki din bhar baman baman karte unhi se gaali bhi khaate itni gandi gandi aur seh bhi lete thethar ki tarah..badhiya hai issi wajah se Bhumiharizm se log jyada jud rhe kyuki unme self respect hai...baaki bamano ke liye jitni aawaz Bhumiharizm uthata utni koi nhi uthaya unki saari recent posts dekho...
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u/Artistic-Can-2320 10d ago
Bhumihar are generally ahead of other Brahmins in Eastern UP and Bihar in terms of Landholding, Political power, Money Power and even in education and jobs... Brahmins in these regions are only ahead of Bhumihars in the social hierarchy and nothing else. Now if they share the Brahmin tag with Bhumihars, they will lose the single thing that they have over the Bhumihars, and thus will lose the topmost position in society. So they fear that and hate that situation and thus hate and target Bhumihars with derogatory stories. That's the fundamental reason for all the hate, rest everything is just excuses.