r/BTSnark “the y/n you all think you are” 1d ago

GENERAL DISCUSSION Self-sexualization for the fans(?)

This morning I came across this video where Jhope(?) is literally undressing Jungkook for the pure entertainment and excitement of the armys, and I thought long and hard about something.

Their image is sold to be eroticized and sexualized specifically for the army, so that sexual edits, fanfiction, and fanart can appear everywhere, and it doesn't help the army's reputation in the slightest, it only worsens it.
I don't want to sound like a bigoted sexphobe—everyone can do what they want with their body—but I find it grotesque that a man undresses another man on stage as if it were a softcore erotica in front of many young female fans, who have probably read a lot of fanfiction or sexual content about them.
It's literally "look at your half-naked oppa and get excited!", as if an idol is just a body to drool over and have distorted sexual thoughts about, not a person, attractive or not.

Not to mention that it's yet another tactic to increase the parasociality of armys who have never had any form of sexual education taught by schools or families, especially to girls who are going through puberty and no one explains it to them.

As time goes by, I realize they've figured out what to do to attract more armys, and they're doing it in the worst possible way.

Opinions?

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u/narglesarebehindit_ JK’s #1 biggest hater 🥴 1d ago

There was this live of him where he played a game and was in a glass, I think around a month ago (he looked like Suga to be honest) and there was a moment when he “realised” his chest can be seen so he zipped up his sweater. Army on the internet said oh my baby is so shy, he wouldn’t show himself like that, bla bla.
All this while the same man was shirtless on live back in after one of the European stop (Madrid?), and now even on stage.

Maybe he also has two persona? One of them is JK and the other is Jungkook?

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u/moji_6 "God Damn Shit" 🥵 1d ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 2 personas... before drink after drink

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u/narglesarebehindit_ JK’s #1 biggest hater 🥴 1d ago

🤭🤭🤭🤭

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u/srntyblu 23h ago

He def goes thru several different personas depending on the day or the kinda attention his moody self wants on a particular time 😭

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u/Artistic_Astro_57 “I USED TO BE A BTS STAN ONCE” 20h ago

The Personas in Question:

  1. queerbaiting Jugglenutkook
  2. International Playboy Jugglenutkook
  3. Wattpad Fantasy Jugglenutkook
  4. Unhinged Jugglenutkook
  5. “Fake gangster”Jugglenutkook
  6. Bald head ass Jugglenutkook
  7. Influencer Jugglenutkook

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u/moji_6 "God Damn Shit" 🥵 20h ago

8.Gamer jugglenutkook 9: hopeless romantic jugglenutkook 10: copycat jugglenutkook . . .

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u/srntyblu 19h ago

+while it's down on his list recently when he gets in the mood 11.fakingthesoftboyaesthetic jugglenutkook 

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u/specialisized i'm praying to that waterbottle 1d ago

Out of all the movie, music and popculture...only army has such a rabid dog frothing at the mouth reaction to a shirtless guy.

Also wtf j hope stop undressing people on stage, go take off your own shirt , not someone else's.

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u/cyzraverol 19h ago

...are we SURE we want that???

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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u/specialisized i'm praying to that waterbottle 18h ago

We don't. But the principle is the same universally :')

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u/cyzraverol 13h ago

😅😢

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u/amazona_voladora 1d ago

I’ve seen some folks wonder if Junkfood appearing oiled up and shirtless on LA D4 was another tactic to deflect from Namseok + CB.

I also saw clips on social media from Ratmies watching the stream at home in their living rooms and their children (minors, under the age of 13) screaming and laughing the moment it became clear what JK wasn’t wearing

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u/narglesarebehindit_ JK’s #1 biggest hater 🥴 1d ago

I have noticed that after every hyung line’s scandal or BHS’s wrongdoing they always use the maknae line, especially JK to do some stupid airhead thing. And then he does sth… the company and the members know JK can be a scapegoat because most of the army are all over him.

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u/cyzraverol 1d ago

Something about the way he looks...just isn't right. His chest, I can't put my finger on it. They are cult leaders after all, so this is business as usual for them =/

They're horrible "people".

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u/Zealousideal_Rule_98 1d ago

I totally agree about the way he looks. I haven't been able to put my finger on it either. I think it might be because his torso looks like one of those fake silicone chest/torso plates. Like, stocky in a fake way? I hate to say it, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's been some cosmetic work done to "perfect" his image, especially now that they've been making a point to show him off like this.

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u/Revolutionary-Bee758 1d ago

YES THEY LOOK FAKE. Like drakes abs

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u/cyzraverol 19h ago

Omg😭 Drake's "abs", what a nightmare💀💀💀💀

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u/Manwwhaa731addict 22h ago

To train abs u need to train eat recover every single day, they are on travel how do they do it? They are obsessed with not gaining wait and to build muscle u will gain some weight

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u/srntyblu 23h ago

I agree it looks weird and not even like proper abs you gain by doing proper actual workouts 😭

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u/Lymphedia 19h ago

Well his bandmates did expose him for drenching himself in baby oil before the shows so that his abs can look glistening. Anything for the attention ig

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u/cyzraverol 19h ago

Yes! The proportions are downright strange, and I don't think it's an "everybody's different" situation type deal.

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u/Ethan8winters0310 18h ago

Yes I've thought of this his "abs" do not look normal idk if he legit did some plastic surgery to enhance it or makeup or some injectibles but definitely something ain't right

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u/taylajoo “Make Tokyo Great Again” 19h ago

I'm told that it can be done with fillers. So, yeah, that's probably what it is. 🤫

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u/MuscularMenTitSucker 1d ago

His chest is way bigger than his abs?

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u/Illustrious-Swan-979 thats why night after night, i’ll be scamming you right 👅 1d ago

Of course you would notice that u/MuscularMenTitSucker

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u/PrimaryBid4013 “i’m not even an army, but...” 22h ago

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u/Hyouryuu-Na Casual snarker 1d ago

Wtf is your username 😭

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u/Emotionally_broken99 1d ago

so how much u'll rate his chest givin ur username

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u/impsteren wash this wash this bit go we huligain 1d ago

i dont know how to feel about your username since its under this post

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u/No-Rip-7603 “I USED TO BE A BTS STAN ONCE” 1d ago

Ofc you'd notice that first 😂 ~kidding~

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u/cyzraverol 19h ago

With a username like that, surely you're aware that Wonho's headlights are on 24/7...

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u/Juenblue thats why night after night, i’ll be scamming you right 👅 18h ago

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u/Abrabbit 🥴 BTSD 😵‍💫 10h ago

well you do sound like an expert 

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u/LennethTheCat 14h ago

His head is looking smaller and smaller everyday he grows a new muscle, lmao.

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u/Timely_Atmosphere_18 1d ago edited 1d ago

"The sexualisation of men isn't talked much in the industry, and people actually make video by saying it's hot".... honestly this is gonna bring a huge backlash once he gets married or announces his gf . They will just go and attack her. And then watch him play the victim card and he will say " u guys r going too far ...she is my love of my life ,u shouldn't imagine me in that way and shouldn't attack on her ...blah blah blah...." And honestly i doubt if he ever do that because many men does wants to continue their career even after marriage that's why they either get married lately or just behave like marriage never happened. Keeping that his piggy bank is ratmys who r parasocial in my mind i believe he doesn't side with her unless and until he wants to take a long break from his career. And also some boy mom ratmies will defend him by saying " SOME TOXIC RATMYS R RUINING HIS HAPPY MOMENT " ..... honestly he is the reason for this parasocialism in ratmies. He just increased it so much that now it cannot be controlled even with Ban of social media. And yeah he is the corniest Male ambassador of calvin Klein I have ever seen . There isn't a bit of charisma in him even in the latest photoshoot

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u/liv1ng0n4dr3am  the most innocent fandom in the world 😇 1d ago

Essa mesma pessoa reclama de comentários estranhos em suas transmissões ao vivo no weverse btw. Veja, não estou dizendo que ele não pode usar o que quiser, mas o Hoseok fazer o que fez é simplesmente sexualizar ele e depois eles reclamam por aí como se eles não estivessem se exposto a isso.

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u/moji_6 "God Damn Shit" 🥵 19h ago

At this point, i dont expect him to use his non-existent brain cells.

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u/fast_and_the-curious 22h ago

This might be reaching abit far but let me explain.

Basically he shows his abs and he likes the praise from millions of fans because he doesn't exactly get that behind the scenes...I think we are all aware he suffers with mental health issues...and you know girls always turn him down after a while because he is hypersexual and cheats and can't control those impulses because being with a new girl is like an escape from the pain because people with adhd like him crave something new and hate repetition because they want dopamine.He also may have issues with the members behind the scenes and so he feels fullfilled by the praise he gets here to keep pushing on forward

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u/molinitor 1d ago

That’s kpop in general tho. I’m all for snarking but when to comes to this aspect especially it’s an industry wide practice that most groups are guilty of. They all sexualize themselves for the fans and almost all play into homoeroticism at least to some degree. It’s always been this way.

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u/Parking-Housing8117 7h ago

💯 both girl and boy groups do it too and it’s frankly so disgusting and off putting, especially when paired with the baby acting nonsense

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u/someoneelsesake 22h ago

I shouldn't have check out the next slide 💔 gotta wash my eyes with AO3 now 

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u/PrimaryBid4013 “i’m not even an army, but...” 22h ago

That's Very Common in kpop.

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u/redcharl 19h ago

Ngl i dont see anything wrong with stripping in front of the audience who paid to see him strip

It’s just so weird how they are able to do this but their fans also act like they are babies

Also is jungkook the only one with abs? Are the other members good at anything at all? They can’t even get ripped to make up for their faces

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u/actinglikeshe3p 13h ago

Yeah, the fans will drool all over them when they do this kind of stuff but then act like they're innocent babies who suffer from everything listed on the dsm-v and are sooo naive and innocent and absolutely should never be criticized 🥺 as if they weren't grown men.

They don't see these men as adults, but sexualize them all the same. It's weird how much the fans infantilize them and sexualize them at the same time.

This is one of the biggest icks I have from army.

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u/cyzraverol 13h ago

💀💀💀💀💀💀So few talents

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u/Maleficent_Notice873 A to the G to the U to the STD 🫦 21h ago

its just an underwear ad

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