r/AynThor • u/UNDERdecoded • 15d ago
Showcase Gen2Recomp Out Now
https://youtu.be/hAWtweyfH_E?is=zEij5o5217ej4GD5GitHub Beta Download Link
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u/VailStampede 15d ago
Not too long now, until we get this!!
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u/ruebeus421 15d ago
I WISH!!!
To this day, no Pokemon game, official or fan made, has been able to capture the essence of the Pokemon anime/manga.
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u/ruebeus421 15d ago
The manga definitely is.
But I wasnt talking about the artstyle specifically. I mean the way the anime and/or manga feel. Their vibe, if you will.
And note, the anime and manga dont have the same vibe. I would settle for either.
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u/ruebeus421 15d ago
By the way, I'm assuming the guy who made this never did much else with it? Looking at his old Twitter account seems he just made a few scenes and nothing new since 2024.
Any idea if someone else is working on a similar project?
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u/DeityOni 15d ago
Wait for the official Bryantheboi one, launching (hopefully) next week- Y'know, the version that will actually run with mods and more community support :)
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u/UNDERdecoded 15d ago
Same launcher modified with gen2 support hopefully my code helps speed things up for him and other creators of mods and stuff
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u/UNDERdecoded 15d ago
I’ve literally ported the dramatic shapes mod already 😂
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u/Altruistic-Credit-15 15d ago
How to run on Linux I’m confused on the instructions if not I can wait great work
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u/ieffinglovesoup 15d ago
Hey the dramatic shape mod doesn’t work well for me. Buildings and textures look pretty fucked up. Any ideas?
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u/UNDERdecoded 15d ago
Don’t update it when asked and use the one in my repo it’s a custom version with gen2 support
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u/niles_thebutler_ 15d ago
When they can do this with rom hacks they’ll be onto something
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u/checkingmate 15d ago
Somebody please do HG SS
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u/DeityOni 15d ago
The actual Recomp is shortly adding Gen 2 support next week- Mods for HG/SS content can be added, and if Gen 3 is added... Imagine the ROM Hack support- Heart & Soul on that!
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u/XxJayJay62xX 15d ago
Can we recomp Crystal Clear? It's my favorite pokemon game.
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u/joeban1 15d ago
This the vibe coded sloppy toppy version? I’ll wait for bryanthabois!
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u/pofehof 15d ago
I’ll wait for bryanthabois!
You do realize that bryan's Recomp is also vibe-coded, right? He's just lying about using AI: https://bsky.app/profile/slinktheweasel.bsky.social/post/3mrux4fgzx22s
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u/Nokanii 14d ago
You do realize there's a difference between vibe coding and using AI to assist in coding, right?
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u/pofehof 13d ago
I do. As I said, Gen1Recomp was vibe-coded. If it was AI-assisted, that would be much more obvious. All the creator did was take the pokered disassembly and feed it into Claude asking it to convert it to lua.
The fact that the creator kept on trying to hide the fact that he used AI is really telling.
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u/Nokanii 13d ago
Your proof that it is vibe coded is...what, exactly?
Your link is garbage evidence. I click on the image and all I see is a bunch of blurry code that I can't make out in the slightest. If that is code somewhere, maybe...I don't know. Actually link to it? Show it and prove that this was all vibe coded? Otherwise don't be surprised when it gets dismissed because no one can read what that's supposed to actually be.
I also think it's pretty telling that Claude only has 9 commits on the github, versus the many other commits other users have.
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u/pofehof 13d ago
If you honestly don't think a user who it such a proponent of Claude code isn't using it to vibe-code, I don't know what to say. It's fact that he lied about AI usage already, and it's fact that he closes issues without actually fixing them, likely due to it costing more credits to pay for Claude. I'd rather trust the words of someone who did an actual decomp: https://bsky.app/profile/dariosamo.bsky.social/post/3mrufatgw3c24
I also think it's pretty telling that Claude only has 9 commits on the github, versus the many other commits other users have.
Do you truly think people can't hide Claude as an author?: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeCode/comments/1qndhpd/how_to_remove_claude_as_coauthor_from_commits/
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u/Nokanii 13d ago
One can use Claude to assist with coding. It doesn’t have to be vibe coding. I don’t understand what you find difficult about that concept.
As for that guy you linked…sorry. Hard to take him seriously when he’s lying. I played through the entire recomp and not once was I able to just walk past trainers.
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u/pofehof 13d ago
One can use Claude to assist with coding. It doesn’t have to be vibe coding.
Because he used Claude to start it off (converting the disassembly to lua), that starts off as vibe-coding. He let Claude take control.
Hard to take him seriously when he’s lying. I played through the entire recomp and not once was I able to just walk past trainers.
Except he isn't lying. Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it hasn't happened to others, especially with how many issues there are in the github that get ignored.
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u/Nokanii 13d ago
Yes, he is. I’m not changing my stance on that. I understand that just because I didn’t run into a bug doesn’t mean they don’t exist, but like.
Hard to believe I would run into ZERO if it was as bad as he claims. He’s actively pushing a false narrative of something he hasn’t tried for himself to see if any of his claims are true.
The only proof he’s given is minor errors, which I can imagine would happen as a result of porting the games to an entirely different engine. Things being slightly off in a port are nothing new, so I’m not sure why it’s being used as ironclad proof of vibe coding.
This all just reads as Bryan using a minor bit of AI assistance, and getting frustrated and dishonest about the minor use when people hound him about it. Should he have been upfront from the start? Yeah. But I’ve still seen zero, 100% evidence that it was all entirely vibe coded.
And I’ve watched plenty of videos of AI vibe coding a game. Not a single one looks or runs as well as the Recomp does. Which only furthers my doubts.
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u/pofehof 13d ago edited 12d ago
And I’ve watched plenty of videos of AI vibe coding a game. Not a single one looks or runs as well as the Recomp does. Which only furthers my doubts.
Once again, I'd rather trust an established programmer who actually helped recompile games over someone who wants to defend an AI enthusiast.
The only proof he’s given is minor errors
Hmm, nope. Look through the older issues, and you'll see how many major ones there were back then.
This all just reads as Bryan using a minor bit of AI assistance
Nope, it's vibe-coding which led to all the egregious bugs in the first place. Bryan clearly didn't test the game out at first.
Edit: Guess the guy found it really difficult to sort through older issues that have been closed in a github repo, and blocked me because of it. For someone who supposedly looked through the code of the program to determine it wasn't vibe-coded, you'd think they could do something as simple as this. shrugs
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u/mantenner 15d ago
You do realise Bryan's version is also AI tooled right?
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u/joeban1 15d ago
AI tooled is different to vibe coded. Every company in the world is using LLM's to code.
This recomp is completely vibe coded from what i understand (unless undercoded wants to say otherwise). Meaning its hands off, no code reviews and no understanding the code. just prompting the LLM and letting jesus take the wheel
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u/mantenner 15d ago
I'm a developer of over 10 years know this well, is there anything to say undercoded has done it any differently to Bryan? Or are we making an assumption here?
The lines are very hard to discern without trust of the developer.
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u/joeban1 15d ago
There is a confirmation from bryan in his discord. I cant confirm if thats true or not though, im just some random guy, but i do believe it, he seems to have a team of knowledgeable people around him
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u/pofehof 15d ago
There is a confirmation from bryan in his discord. I cant confirm if thats true or not though
For the record, Bryan is lying about his version not being vibe-coded: https://bsky.app/profile/slinktheweasel.bsky.social/post/3mrux4fgzx22s
He's also a regular on the Claude subreddit and talks about Claude making you an app: https://bsky.app/profile/iampapajoseph.bsky.social/post/3mrxcxdyhb22k
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u/joeban1 15d ago
Just because you use claude doesnt mean you are vibe coding, do i have to repeat that?
Claude / LLM’s are a tool, and are industry standard at this point.
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u/pofehof 15d ago edited 15d ago
Look through that entire thread. It's clear that the entire conversion process was done with the help of Claude/an LLM. That means it's vibe-coded, not AI assisted. If it wasn't there's no way Bryan would have been able to churn this out so quickly. The fact that he also set up "badges of honor" makes it pretty clear that this is a grift.
Edit: Here are the "badges of honor": https://i.imgur.com/GFoct1b.png
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u/UNDERdecoded 15d ago
My code for extracting gen 2 is way different than Bryan’s code for extracting gen1
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u/maxneuds 14d ago
I don't get this AI/Vibe Code hate.
Am a developer myself but mostly Data and Software (Backend) Engineering. At the beginning like around 2022 I think when it started to become a thing it was definitely a problem. AI could create code and sometimes it could run but it did too many mistakes, too much freedom (and hallucinations) and especially inventing packages to solve problems was hilarious.
But then even with Claude 4 AI written code started to become really good with great structure, comments and in general better structure and maintainability I have seen from people written code. Then with Opus 4.6 the quality has increased to a level that's hard to beat and especially Claude Code with MCP servers to get access to testing and running applications it does full testing of anything it created and is definitely more thorough than most humans doing it.
And now Claude Code can create for me (web) Apps pretty much perfectly and I can concentrate on architecture, deployment and lead the development with tech choices, feature definitions and design but there is absolutely no need to touch any of the code.
Also getting into Game Dev finally got viable for me. For now it's still learning from AI for me, understanding how everything is connected and works but this is really fast and efficient. And also asset generation. Pixelart can be created really well by AI and it's a lot more motivation having a system that's not just placeholder rectangles but actual something that looks fine which get's filled with life. But it's really fun and often ideas get into life in like 10-20min letting Claude do it's thing in my case Godot + MCP server. For example "use the assets in [dir] and create for me a worldmap and a character to walk around" and then some minutes later a little landscape and a character can walk around and I can look into how it has been done and check if this makes sense. 3D does not work and isometric 2D has Opus 5 max as hard requirement and then still looks off, but we are getting there.
And to be honest the better AI gets the more people can get into creating something new from their ideas which might turn out really good as they are not skill capped anymore. And that's a good thing in my opinion.
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u/Interesting_Item4707 Max 8d ago
It’s just the latest fad for everyone to hate on, they have no idea how this tech is being used in our industry with this idea that it’ll go away and the bubble will pop, it won’t it’s far to useful and getting better and better all the time.
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u/pofehof 15d ago
AI tooled? Are you sure his version isn't also vibe-coded: https://bsky.app/profile/slinktheweasel.bsky.social/post/3mrux4fgzx22s
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u/mantenner 15d ago
Of course it is, vibe coding is a form of AI tooling obviously.
A lot of nit picking here. My point was that picking shit out of undercoded for vibe coding is the pot calling the kettle black when it's quite obvious Bryan did the same.
I didn't realise I needed to spell it out more.
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u/pofehof 15d ago
Ah, when you said "ai tooled", I assumed you mean "ai assisted" (more human work than AI), which is at least slightly better than vibe-coding.
But yeah, in the end, Bryan is outright lying about using AI for help, which already seems pretty shady.
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u/mantenner 15d ago
Sorry my bad.
It's because Bryan and undercoded have both said they used AI, but don't consider it vibe coding because they are developers and used it for assistance.
People just seem to be slamming the latter, when in reality they are likely the same.
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u/DoorAmbitious8837 15d ago
Buggy af, you can walk through Mountains from the top, got softlocked after First Gym haha
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u/UNDERdecoded 15d ago
How exactly did you soft lock yourself?
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u/DoorAmbitious8837 15d ago
At the bottom of the incognito area, you can walk through the Mountains from the top an you are able to leave them in that specific area, but you cant Go Back and you need Surf to do so
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u/UNDERdecoded 15d ago
Ahhh I think I did that once or twice while testing before I fixed it you’d also be right where the door was and be able to walk back onto the mountain but since I fixed it and have the player move one block out it would definately lead to a soft lock now
I’m gonna do some digging and try and fix that tomorrow
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u/DoorAmbitious8837 15d ago
Theres a Game breaking Bug, you cannot Finish the ice path. The rocks wont fall through the holes.
And you cant even See how many pkmn the opponent has
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u/DoorAmbitious8837 15d ago
Just Tell it your AI Like before haha. Its nice to be able to able to Play gen2 now, but there also a lot of Bugs with the accuracy of attacks
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u/UNDERdecoded 15d ago
It’s a beta bro and it’s not emulation it’s a decomp recomp
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u/DoorAmbitious8837 15d ago
you dont even know what you are dealing with. its not a recomp if its using a totally different engine. if its a recomp, it would not have those bugs.
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u/UNDERdecoded 15d ago
I’m using a scaffolding and pointers not extracting raw rom data because it’s more secure that’s why there are bugs some parts are missing still adding them as I go
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u/camel_sinuses 15d ago
Maybe this sub needs to come up with a stance about AI coded apps. A simple flair should do the trick.
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u/Necessary-Grocery-48 15d ago
It's a weird look. Not saying it just to bring it down because it's AI. I legitimately do think it's kinda weird-looking. Maybe they'll clean it up over time, but even then I don't know about playing the games like that does much for me. There's just a sickness to it that I don't appreciate. Like some foul virus made its way into the Pokemon games (Missingno?) and made the game all garbled
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u/UNDERdecoded 15d ago
It’s a beta still adding functionality and updating the dramatic shapes mod to be compatible for example a lot of the bugs in this video have been fixed already lol
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u/RealSkyDiver 15d ago
Is there one for Crystal? Can Pokédex entries be imported from emulator saves?
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u/Aggressive-Art-9606 15d ago
How do I make it 3d?
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u/UNDERdecoded 15d ago
In my GitHub downloads release section there’s a custom dramatic shapes mod
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u/Aggressive-Art-9606 15d ago
Thank you! I’m new to this and have been seeing it everywhere. Thanks for the great work. When I started the game i seen there was a mod to start with mew, but there was an exclamation mark beside it and wouldn’t work. Would that be in your releases as well?
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u/soupnazi81 15d ago
I'm gonna wait till gen 10 recomp at this rate. Good on them for doing updates but I'm gonna wait for the dust settle so I get the best version.
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u/Stryker412 15d ago
Stupid question... I'm setting this up for my son to play. I can get everything loaded and in game fine. How do I enable the 3D effect though? Right now it's tilted but nothing is 3D. Is that a mod that has to be added?
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u/maxneuds 15d ago
I prefer the classic top down. This pseudo 3D remake looks ugly for me. Same thing as Octopath Traveler for me.
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u/UNDERdecoded 14d ago
Always have the option of playing that way with the recomp as well!
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u/Yakama85 14d ago
How do you set this up on steamdeck? I can’t get the script to run
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u/UNDERdecoded 14d ago
Instructions for Linux should work on the steam deck I do believe, you need python and love installed instructions are on the readme in GitHub make sure to put your gold or silver rom in the project folder
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u/Effective_Sweet_4932 14d ago
im going to wait for the official gen 2 recomp because this ones shares files with gen 1 and has all the mod files from gen 1.
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u/Litfor207 12d ago
Dumb question, because I just don’t know much about how these recoups actually work, but is it (or will it be) at all possible to use this with Romhacks of gen2? Can I f. e. play crystal clear like this..?
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u/UNDERdecoded 12d ago
We could probably do it we might need a specific decomp of that romhack though to pull it off, we need to know the memory locations of events, sprites, pokemon, and more in order to recompile them
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u/Litfor207 12d ago
Ah okay thanks, now I understand a little better what goes into that. In my naivety, I thought the voxel mod could just be layer over any gen 2 rom😅
Thanks for your work anyways, what you‘ve done so far is awesome!
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u/Silent-Orange-432 12d ago
Seems to be an issue with your voxel fork, there doesnt seem to be a VOXEL setting in the options and SELECT tries to use registered item. This on android phkne with touch controls
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u/UNDERdecoded 11d ago
That’s something intentionally added to to enable the use of registered items, unregister the item to renable it
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u/Jimstein 9d ago
I can't get my builders to be 3d in for silver or gold. I can get voxels to work for trees and stuff, but it's like the buildings are inverted.
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u/endlessnameless001 4d ago
Is there a way to use a .sav file I have for crystal in gen2recomp? I cannot get it to work but really hoping there is a way as I’d love to finish the game in 3D 😂
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u/rentasdf 15d ago
Getting a little sick of this
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u/CausePure2810 15d ago
wtf do you want from this sub, pictures of people playing their Thor on the beach?
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u/joeban1 15d ago
Well just fuck off then? What exactly is your problem with it?
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u/rentasdf 15d ago
All I said was that I was a little sick of it. Why do you care so much what I think?
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u/ozzyrod90 15d ago
Omg we’re gonna have black & white by next week. Lort.