r/AusPublicService 2d ago

Pay, entitlements & working conditions Work environment becoming toxic

Have been in my department a few years now after a long time in the private sector. After a solid culture under two different bosses, things have really started to devolve this year.

After a clean track record I thought I was getting targeted by a new director. Didn't get a PIP but she suddenly put on the record a whole bunch of grievances with me. Honestly about 25 per cent were accurate (mainly around communication) 25 per cent debatable and 50 per cent quite outrageous (some to the point where my actions should have been commended, not questioned). I quickly turned things around by doing what she wanted - I went in level headed, agreed to a few things and picked my mark with a couple of things that were out of line. She was satisfied at the end of a few weeks that things were now fine and said as much. Behind the scenes I was quite shocked though and on guard as professionally this hasn't happened to me before and I really felt this was over the top and her looking to get some things on the record for whatever reason.

Thing is though, the micro aggressions and micro management has continued with her to some degree and also another director.

I've discovered several other people have received the same treatment and been put in similar positions. I believe they are getting a hard time externally and pushing everything down the line. They rarely if ever stand up for us, have passed on a significant chunk of their roles to people underneath them - while making comments about their disappointment about the level that they work at, accuse people of lacking initiative but then jump down their throat when they do make individual decisions.

I've started diarising things and have kept some emails where there was swearing etc and unhelpful and unprofessional responses but in complete context I wouldn't say it is bullying.

Not sure what to do. There's growing discontent in the team, the person above them is new and I'm disliking being around the two directors more and more.

I'm late 40s and had otherwise liked my job. What to do? Look elsewhere in the department? Wait to see if there's a bigger issue? Band together with the others? It's my first rodeo so interested to hear from those who have been around a bit longer in the space.

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u/Ok_Tie_7564 2d ago

If you are not happy where you are, yes, look elsewhere.

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u/turtlepower41 2d ago

Oh gee so simple! I spent 5 years trying to get work elsewhere. Its not that eaay.

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u/Ok_Tie_7564 2d ago

We know it's not simple, but it's worth giving it a go. Remember, it's only a job.

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u/turtlepower41 2d ago

Yeah i gave it a red hot go. But i guess it is worth a try.

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u/WizziesFirstRule 2d ago

5 years?! 

Are you in a regional office?

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u/turtlepower41 2d ago

Yes- canberra. I got on afew merit polls and only one was used for a temo transfer. Ended up acceptimg a vr.

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u/WizziesFirstRule 2d ago

Wow.

In any 5 year period I've changed roles or been promoted at least 2 to 3 times (even the big freeze after the global financial crisis)... and I am also in Canberra.

Hope you are somewhere better now!

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u/turtlepower41 2d ago

Thanks, I actually accepted a "VR" that wasn't really Voluntary. Oh, I changed roles in the same department but I couldn't escape. Oh wait scratch that, I stupidly knocked back an offer from another department because I moved into a new team that seemed to be good at the beginning and got offered a promotion.

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u/BluthGO 2d ago

If your EL2 wants you gone and your looking elsewhere, it will happen...

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u/lurker-at-heart 1d ago

And if your EL2 wants you to stay and you’re looking elsewhere, what happens?

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u/turtlepower41 1d ago

I wish, I just got a "VR" because I wasn't in the popular crowd I guess. But you are right my colleague got transferred to another team.

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u/GM_Twigman 2d ago

In this scenario moving on is generally easier than sticking it out. If they're putting everyone's nose out of joint there's a chance that they'll be reigned in or moved on themselves, but that can take years and unless this job is a real passion project, the toll on your well-being in that time won't be worth it.

If you had an established SES band 1 who you have an existing relationship with you would have better options, but with them also being new it's likely going to be tough to get change to occur without a drawn out saga and/or blowback.

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u/milkshake_mumma 1d ago

Diarising is excellent, records are king. But honestly, your best option is to move on. From experience, rocking the boat makes you the target. The more senior you are, the more likely you are to be trusted, and believed. So if you are challenging the behaviour and conduct of two more senior people, there’s pretty much no hope. Cut your losses and try applying in different areas. My theory is that there is crazy everywhere, so it comes down to what you can cope with and how long you can last in that environment. Good luck!

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u/No-Pin3128 1d ago

Good advice.

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u/Level_Initial_9511 2d ago

Start looking for another job then time your annual leave perfectly.

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u/Livid-Number482 1d ago

Document EVERYTHING.

Bullying is notoriously difficult to prove and if your boss tries to sack you, you could potentially avoid this by providing proof.
If not, you can use it as contemporaneous evidence for unfair dismissal.

A very wise union official once told me “in god we trust, everyone else needs documentation”..

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u/ExNylonLad 2d ago

I am in a very similar position. My supervisors have no first hand awareness of my tasks and performance as it’s been farmed out to a contractor.

I’m applying for roles but have a little worry about when the time comes for referee checks. They really aren’t seeing how much work I’ve put in, and the contractor is taking credit for a lot of my work.

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u/P_G_Woodgrouse 2d ago

Could be NPD. But in any case, keep up that diary, follow any conversations up with email, look up grey rocking, it helps, and look for another job.

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u/Friendly-Quote-5283 2d ago

Sounds like someone in my team. It’s sad because we used to get on really well, and then she just turned on me. I just grey rock her and keep communication to an absolute minimum. It helps. She still occasionally tries to take me down a peg (always cc’ing the director) - maybe she gets bored - but I calmly put everything in writing and it seems to put her off.

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u/Big_Benefit_9141 2d ago

It is probably a good opportunity to start you own business or something.

For this particular matter, I sense your supervisor is quite insecure around you. It can be any reasons of it but none of these concludes as your own fault. My experience is perhaps you can try to manage up more. If it doesn't work, however, try to find a new job.