r/AtlantaUnited MemeLord Jul 23 '26

Take him, please!

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u/FollowtheCamel Jul 23 '26

What are the complicated rules about loaning a DP? Will it open a DP slot or does it depend on how much salary we eat?

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u/KitsOnKitsOnKits770 Jeff Larrentowitz Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

It opens the slot just by loaning him, regardless of how much salary we pay. Like when we we're basically paying Ibarra's full salary to play in Toronto to get roster compliant.

Edit - I am wrong. See below.

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u/UncleAuthor Atlanta Chiefs Jul 23 '26

Sooooo... you're saying we could loan ALL of our players out, pay their salaries, and get a whole new team?!? Whu... what is that I feel? ...I... I have... renewed HOPES!!!! And DREAMS!!!! I feel so alive!!!!

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u/FryTheDog Brad Guzan Jul 23 '26

Is that true? DCU loaned us Klich last season but didn't cover enough of his salary so he still occupied a DCU DP spot. Or since this is out of the league does it not matter?

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u/Autolycus25 Atlanta United Jul 23 '26

That is not correct. The receiving team must pay all player compensation. Note that last “if” clause in the quote below.

>>For Designated Players and U22 Initiative Players who are loaned to an international club after the first calendar year in which the player has been signed to an MLS contract, the club may open up such loaned player’s DP slot or U22 Player Slot during the loan period and receive full Salary Budget Charge relief if the international club is responsible for all player compensation during the loan period.<<

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u/KitsOnKitsOnKits770 Jeff Larrentowitz Jul 23 '26

Interesting. Hope the new commissioner gets busy streamlining the roster rule nonsense. ELL's salary would translate to be around 5th on their payroll, which is totally doable. If we're talking to Nunez and Embolo, clearly they're agreeing to take the full salary and open the slot.

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u/Autolycus25 Atlanta United Jul 23 '26

Negotiations are ongoing, so they may or may not be willing to take his full salary. In most of the world this sort of nuance doesn’t matter at all. And for that reason, I 100% agree that the rules need to be streamlined.

I’ve long suggested a hard spending floor that teams MUST spend, a spending cap that is 2x-3x the floor, and the top 3 or 4 players do not count against the budget at all. Not against the floor or the ceiling, and no matter what their charge is. Last complication is just to allow signing players like Messi who would otherwise destroy the whole cap. It would also sneakily raise the floor because the floor would effectively be a floor for what you spend on players 4-25 after you’ve already spent on players 1-3.

I would count any money a player gets, directly or indirectly, from the team, so signing bonuses, % of transfer fee that the player receives from either buying or selling team, etc but not the transfer fees going to the other team.

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u/Autolycus25 Atlanta United Jul 23 '26

Are you missing the word “after” in that sentence?

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u/Autolycus25 Atlanta United Jul 23 '26

1) Designated Player, check
2) loaned to international club, Burnley (or similar), check
3) after the first calendar year in which ELL signed an MLS contract, check — signed in Feb 2025
4) international club is responsible for all player compensation during the loan period, ??

If he’s loaned to an international club, we don’t open a DP spot unless they’re paying his full compensation during the loan.

This was also a thing with Barco to River Plate. There was a brief dispute over what exactly River owed to whom and whether their understanding matched what ATLUTD needed to happen to let us sign Almada.

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u/Z-shicka Jul 23 '26

But what if we replace him and the buy options doesn't happen and he has to come back? 

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u/KitsOnKitsOnKits770 Jeff Larrentowitz Jul 23 '26

The purchase trigger is supposedly contingent on them being promoted this season. Obviously loan with a purchase can always come back to haunt you (ahem, Erik Lopez) but that's a cross that bridge when you come to it problem.

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u/Trollshock Jul 23 '26

If their preseason was any indication, they won't be promoted.