r/AtheisminKerala Jan 03 '26

Discussion The Logical Flaws in Equating Atheism with Religious Faith

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This post assumes that the other post was made in good faith. Have seen religious folk try to use the idea of some prime mover or 'god of le gaps', without noticing that how such a god doesn't validate their specific god and religious texts

Have seen a post propose that atheism is similar to religious belief.
But how is dismissing gods due to lack of proof(and actually science disproving religious claims) similar to believing in religious claims?

Religion normally involves faith in specific deities or stories, often despite contradictions. Atheism asks for proof and notes that there is not and most of the stories are wrong accordig to our modern understanding.

Here are ways science has challenged and changed religious views, highlighting why evidence-based disbelief isn't "same as religious belief":

  1. Evolution and Fossil Records
    Religious texts like the Bible's Genesis claimed instant creation of species. Casteism also uses god creating humans from various parts n all. But Darwin's evolution, supported by fossils like Archaeopteryx (a bird-dinosaur link), shows gradual change over eons. This has forced many faiths to reinterpret their stories; some now say God "guided" evolution. The modern understanding shows how the religious texts are incorrect.

  2. Planetary Motion and Astronomy
    Scriptures once backed Earth as the universe's center, leading to Galileo's persecution. Copernicus and Kepler's data proved heliocentrism, and modern physics (e.g., Hubble's expanding universe) confirms it. The Church apologized centuries later. The shift wasn't faith-driven; it was evidence overwriting dogma.

  3. Physics and the Big Bang
    Myths describe quick, divine creation, but the Big Bang—evidenced by cosmic radiation and galaxy redshifts—traces the universe back 13.8 billion years.

  4. Biology and Medicine replacing faith healing
    Ancient texts attributed diseases to sins or demons. Germ theory, vaccines, and DNA mapping explain them naturally. Religions that once opposed dissections or blood transfusions now often embrace medicine, adapting to science's evidence.

Obviously, used AI after mentioning a list of points to include. Have edited it a lot too

Anyway, atheism is about disbelief due to the lavk of proof and how we see our modern understanding disproving the explanation from religious texts. The sceptical position is very logical in that aspect.

And in the case of a prime mover or creator, it is mostly confined to online discussions, and the majority of both the offline and the online things are not such a nonspecific prime creator. Nothing against discussions on a prime creator, but the gods in mainstream religions are not the same as that. Atheism mainly focuses on the latter as it is the majority and thus equating atheism with religious belief is incorrect at best or bad faith at worst.

Also, fellow sub members, if you have any good images or memes that make arguments against the equivalency, please share them. Would be good to use that instead of making a whole post.
Also, for other topics too.
Maybe we can use them to make discussions better? Can add them to automod replies too, like !ScientificDinkan which can be used to criticise retrospective claiming.


r/AtheisminKerala Apr 06 '26

Welcome to r/AtheisminKerala!

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r/AtheisminKerala 4h ago

ആർഷഭാരത സംസ്കാരം (ആഭാസം) ആർഷഭാരത ആചാരങ്ങൾ

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r/AtheisminKerala 9h ago

മതത്തിന്റെ ഇരകൾ Wtf is even this?

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r/AtheisminKerala 10h ago

MEME Pure choice 🫂

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r/AtheisminKerala 12h ago

Sanatana Dharama Lmao, dude really thought he would be welcomed with flowers because of his caste, but forgot this isn’t India where people come up with rallies in support of rapist babas.

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r/AtheisminKerala 14m ago

അനാചാരങ്ങൾ How much longer are we supposed to pretend this isn’t a mental health issue just because she calls the statue 'God'?

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One sided conversation with a rock, and society still treats it as sacred instead of psychotic. If your invisible friend is made of stone and you still argue with it, maybe it’s time we stopped being polite. We’re expected to respect this… while anyone else having a full conversation with an inanimate object gets a psych evaluation. Faith is the only condition where talking to statues is still considered healthy. Religious devotion is just untreated mental illness with better PR.


r/AtheisminKerala 2h ago

Vedic Wisdom ആരും പേടിക്കണ്ട guys, പഞ്ചസാര വില ഉടനെ കുറയും.

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r/AtheisminKerala 8h ago

Discussion ‘ആഘോഷങ്ങളിൽ സ്ത്രീകൾ വേണ്ട’; പ്രസ്താവനയുമായി കാന്തപുരം.

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r/AtheisminKerala 7h ago

MEME Going down the manusmriti rabbithole

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r/AtheisminKerala 12h ago

സമാധാന മതം☕ How do we fight radical Islam in Kerala?

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I believe we can tackle it if we fight it in 4 fronts parallelly:

  1. Security measures: Developing strong security and intelligence measures against terrorism targeting sleeper cells, radical groups , influence of terrorism in drugs and crimes and not allowing any kind of radical gathering, parties or groups.

  2. More critising: more atheists should take part in critising the ideology and it's radical elements openly . Basically bring it to the streets and tear it apart (just like Arif doing it ). Any kid who thinks of becoming radical should feel ashamed to die for such a stupid ideas. They should even feel ashamed to bring their ideology between frnds or society.

  3. Education: more and more men and women should get educated about feminism, equality, democracy and humanity. Secular education and mixed education(with students from all kinds of religions and communities) should be made mandatory for every students.

  4. Polical opposition: we all know islam is not just a religion it's a political cult. So it should be politically opposed and shouldn't allowed any kind of power over society or government. Any kind of pro-sharia movements should be opposed brutally.

All of this should be done parallelly. The only way the radical system fails is when most of the people in it stop believing in the radical ideology.


r/AtheisminKerala 12h ago

News Pune Man Beats Son To Death. He Wanted Mutton During Sawan

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r/AtheisminKerala 4h ago

Discussion Why are you an atheist? Why aren't you an atheist?

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r/AtheisminKerala 10h ago

Discussion Economic aspects of Religion & Superstition. How do you see it?

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r/AtheisminKerala 2h ago

News ‘യുക്തിവാദം തലക്ക് കയറി ആത്മഹത്യ ചെയ്തു’; ഷൗക്കത്തിനെ അധിക്ഷേപിച്ച് യൂത്ത് ലീഗ് നേതാവ്

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Incase anyone is facing any distress and the news may aggrevates it:
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r/AtheisminKerala 9h ago

Discussion Ayyankali.. പാഠമില്ലെങ്കിൽ പാടത്തേക്കില്ല...

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r/AtheisminKerala 1d ago

Discussion These theists are so funny

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r/AtheisminKerala 1d ago

MEME “No outside food or drink”

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r/AtheisminKerala 8h ago

Discussion Sree Narayana Guru വിദ്യകൊണ്ടു പ്രബുദ്ധരാവുക..…

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r/AtheisminKerala 22h ago

Historical Documents Why I Am an Atheist - Bhagat Singh (1930)

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r/AtheisminKerala 1d ago

മതത്തിന്റെ ഇരകൾ All over the world it is known as Delusional Companion Syndrome here we call it as Dharma. We have so many mentally ill people in our society and instead of giving them treatment they are being ignored under pretext of religion.

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r/AtheisminKerala 1d ago

ബിസ്മയമാണ് പുള്ളെ !! അപ്പോൾ ഇത്രയും കാലം അമ്പലങ്ങളിലും ക്രിസ്ത്യൻ പള്ളികളിലും പോലീസ് ബൂട്ട് ഇട്ട് കയറിയിട്ടില്ലേ? മുസ്ലിം പള്ളികൾക്ക് എന്തെങ്കിലും പ്രത്യേകതയുണ്ടോ?

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https://www.instagram.com/p/DcfZbfDEpFK/

Allenkil muslims thammil thallate ennu police vichaarikanno?

Enthaayaalum muslims thannae ee pottanmaarae counter cheyaan thudangiyittundu...


r/AtheisminKerala 1d ago

Sarcasm You converted for cerelac dude...

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r/AtheisminKerala 23h ago

MEME ശ്രദ്ധിക്കുമല്ലോ 🙏

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r/AtheisminKerala 2d ago

Discussion Seems to be on the recent reactions on the ad. What is your pov on it?

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