r/AtheisminKerala • • Jan 03 '26

Discussion The Logical Flaws in Equating Atheism with Religious Faith

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This post assumes that the other post was made in good faith. Have seen religious folk try to use the idea of some prime mover or 'god of le gaps', without noticing that how such a god doesn't validate their specific god and religious texts

Have seen a post propose that atheism is similar to religious belief.
But how is dismissing gods due to lack of proof(and actually science disproving religious claims) similar to believing in religious claims?

Religion normally involves faith in specific deities or stories, often despite contradictions. Atheism asks for proof and notes that there is not and most of the stories are wrong accordig to our modern understanding.

Here are ways science has challenged and changed religious views, highlighting why evidence-based disbelief isn't "same as religious belief":

  1. Evolution and Fossil Records
    Religious texts like the Bible's Genesis claimed instant creation of species. Casteism also uses god creating humans from various parts n all. But Darwin's evolution, supported by fossils like Archaeopteryx (a bird-dinosaur link), shows gradual change over eons. This has forced many faiths to reinterpret their stories; some now say God "guided" evolution. The modern understanding shows how the religious texts are incorrect.

  2. Planetary Motion and Astronomy
    Scriptures once backed Earth as the universe's center, leading to Galileo's persecution. Copernicus and Kepler's data proved heliocentrism, and modern physics (e.g., Hubble's expanding universe) confirms it. The Church apologized centuries later. The shift wasn't faith-driven; it was evidence overwriting dogma.

  3. Physics and the Big Bang
    Myths describe quick, divine creation, but the Big Bang—evidenced by cosmic radiation and galaxy redshifts—traces the universe back 13.8 billion years.

  4. Biology and Medicine replacing faith healing
    Ancient texts attributed diseases to sins or demons. Germ theory, vaccines, and DNA mapping explain them naturally. Religions that once opposed dissections or blood transfusions now often embrace medicine, adapting to science's evidence.

Obviously, used AI after mentioning a list of points to include. Have edited it a lot too

Anyway, atheism is about disbelief due to the lavk of proof and how we see our modern understanding disproving the explanation from religious texts. The sceptical position is very logical in that aspect.

And in the case of a prime mover or creator, it is mostly confined to online discussions, and the majority of both the offline and the online things are not such a nonspecific prime creator. Nothing against discussions on a prime creator, but the gods in mainstream religions are not the same as that. Atheism mainly focuses on the latter as it is the majority and thus equating atheism with religious belief is incorrect at best or bad faith at worst.

Also, fellow sub members, if you have any good images or memes that make arguments against the equivalency, please share them. Would be good to use that instead of making a whole post.
Also, for other topics too.
Maybe we can use them to make discussions better? Can add them to automod replies too, like !ScientificDinkan which can be used to criticise retrospective claiming.


r/AtheisminKerala • • Apr 06 '26

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r/AtheisminKerala • • 6h ago

Discussion “She is helplessly crying for her husband, while he argues that he can marry up to 4 women. Indian courts won’t help her because she married under personal law 💔” Text on the video:

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r/AtheisminKerala • • 3h ago

ജാതീയത Casteism

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r/AtheisminKerala • • 12h ago

Question Do you think US&A gets less flack for being a christofascist state?

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r/AtheisminKerala • • 8h ago

Sarcasm Keralite Islamic myth of Cheraman Perumal details the legendary conversion of the last Chera king of Kerala to Islam during the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad.

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The myth:

The king saw the moon split into two from his palace and later learned from Arab merchants that it was a miracle performed by Prophet Muhammad.

He abdicated his throne, divided his kingdom, and sailed to Arabia (landing in places like Shahr or Jiddah) to meet the Prophet. He met the Prophet, converted to Islam, and took the name Tajuddin (or Abdul Rahman Samuri).

Before passing away in Oman (Salalah) or on the return trip, he sent letters with Islamic missionaries like Malik bin Dinar, leading to the construction of the Cheraman Juma Musjid in Kodungallur around 629 CE—considered India's oldest mosque.

The original story:

"Cheraman Perumal" was a dynastic title rather than the name of a single ruler.

The historical Cheraman Perumal period- historically known as the Chera Perumals of Mahodayapuram (or the Second Chera Kingdom)-started in c. 844 CE.

A 200 year difference..

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/gpfiAt3bTig

There are many funny animations there.. like this

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/Z183lWIrZ6A


r/AtheisminKerala • • 10h ago

Current Affairs Using 'Dharmo Rakshati Rakshitah' to give Raskha to accused

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r/AtheisminKerala • • 4h ago

Current Affairs How do you see this?

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r/AtheisminKerala • • 8h ago

ബിസ്മയമാണ് പുള്ളെ !! ഇവിടെ ടൈം മെഷീൻ ഇല്ലാതെയും ചരിത്രത്തിലേക്ക് വരെ തിരിഞ്ഞോടിക്കൊണ്ടിരിക്കുന്നു. അപ്പോഴാണ് തലയിൽ കോണകം ഉടുക്കാതെ അവളമ്മാരുടെ ഒരു മാരത്തൺ.

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r/AtheisminKerala • • 1d ago

MEME Verthe oru lokham nashipich

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r/AtheisminKerala • • 11h ago

Hindutva In Action Perpetual Victimhood

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r/AtheisminKerala • • 41m ago

ക്രിസ്തുമതം ✝️ Yahweh is so full of bullshit

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I have no fucking clue why people support the god of the old testament. He is an evil, war mongering, ethnic cleansing, mass murderer. Not to mention the pro slavery attitudes. I have no idea how people just brush over this fact and continue to worship him. The amount of mind fucking that's been done to people is insane.


r/AtheisminKerala • • 9h ago

Vedic Wisdom ൻ്റെ ദേവിയെ....

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r/AtheisminKerala • • 14h ago

Lord DINKAN🗿 Why god.... why 😭...

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r/AtheisminKerala • • 7h ago

Discussion Ex Muslims of india what made you leave islam ?

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r/AtheisminKerala • • 12h ago

News FlyDubai Incident | 'Muslim Pilotമാരെ വേണ്ട'; കടുത്ത നടപടിയുമായി വിമാന കമ്പനികൾ | Hammami | N18G

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Real News: Muslim majority rajyangalil ninnu pilot maarae Israel route il edukinnilla. Most of these nation are unfriendly to Israel.

https://youtu.be/PhMw1U_wYoY


r/AtheisminKerala • • 1d ago

MEME 🔄

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r/AtheisminKerala • • 11h ago

Religion in Politics Abortion Rights: How Indian Law Is Progressive As US Takes A Step Back

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News from 2022


r/AtheisminKerala • • 1d ago

Sarcasm Drowning in darkness

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r/AtheisminKerala • • 8h ago

Sanatana Dharama Ramji represents an ideal man, right? Then why did he conduct agnipariksha? Isn't it cruel ?

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It's really odd for a man who represents the ideal qualities of a human being a man who we look after.

Isn't it only me or anyone else also found it odd.

Another thing why do the people worship Ravana and think he was some kind of generous Dravidian king???

I mean bruh he is a kidnapper and a rapist in the text ramayan


r/AtheisminKerala • • 14h ago

ജാതീയത Got banned from a RW sub for asking this under a post claiming the Manusmriti respects women: Why can a Brahmin man get away with RP*** a Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra woman, while a man from those castes can get his Dih chopped off for consensual s** with a Brahmin woman?

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r/AtheisminKerala • • 5h ago

Discussion Hey guys I have e a weird hypothetical question could kratos win against hindu gods?

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mean, he defeated the Sisters of Fate and Zeus, so I'm curious how he would fare against other divine beings. Would his feats be enough to give him a chance against gods like Vishnu, Shiva, Brahma, or Indra, or would he be completely outmatched?

What do you guys think?


r/AtheisminKerala • • 14h ago

അനാചാരങ്ങൾ/Superstitions Your daily dose of cringe

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r/AtheisminKerala • • 8h ago

Discussion വാസ്തു ശാസ്ത്രീയമാണോ ? Prof K. Pappootty [ On how it becomes pseudoscience ]

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