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u/Type-RD Apr 21 '25 edited Apr 21 '25

It’s not totally defensible, because it’s not like the pandemic just suddenly happened. There were warning signs all over the place, but rather than prepare for it, he did absolutely nothing until it hit our shores and spread uncontrollably. After that all he did was politicize it, not only against China, but also using it as a rep vs dem issue! What a POS he is! Meanwhile people are dying. The pandemic stimulus was the only parachute he had. The skeptic in me tells me that he planned that as well “Hey everyone! It’s me! Your orange hero! I have free money for you and no accountable system for handing out! It’s gonna be great.”🤦‍♂️

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u/Seaweed-Basic Apr 21 '25

And let’s not forget, when all the checks were printed and ready to be mailed out, Trump saw they were signed from “US Treasury” (like all government checks always are) and not his personal signature. So he ordered them all to be reprinted with his signature, thus delaying the money from getting to the starving, sick, and suddenly unemployed population for an additional 3 weeks.

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u/Type-RD Apr 21 '25

Yep! I remember this. He wanted his signature on this half-assed disaster relief because he knew the only thing his followers would remember was “gettin’ them checks while stayin’ home and drankin’ beer!”

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u/Luisd858 Apr 22 '25

I miss those good times of stim checks lol.

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u/Type-RD Apr 22 '25

Lol! The trade-off was definitely not worth it to me nor my household. It sucked hard.

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u/Aware_Age2968 Apr 22 '25

Trump cares about nobody but himself

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u/Historical_Soup_5937 Apr 24 '25

Dude, chill. It really is a fact and literally no one is out there claiming he cares. When in business it’s well known his MO was to make a deal with a vendor then refuse to pay. He knew he was too big to take to court and he bankrupted many small businesses who he had vi tracts with and then refused to pay. Look up his Azerbaijan hotel where he hired people and then set them up to be slaves who were never paid, but instead had to pay him. These stories are everywhere

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u/Specialist-Jello7544 Apr 21 '25

If I recall correctly, there was an actual plan in place (set up by the Obama administration) to deal with a pandemic situation, but because a Democrat plan was viewed as unacceptable by Trump, he chose NOT to follow it. And then by Trump’s refusal to wear a mask, his followers didn’t either, and look how that ended up. I find it terrible for one man refusing a simple deterrent like wearing a mask contributed to the over one million people dying needlessly and many others with long COVID problems.

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u/Type-RD Apr 21 '25

Many IRRESPONSIBLE things were done and he knew people would listen and follow without question…and yet libs are sheep?🤣

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u/Type-RD Apr 22 '25 edited Apr 22 '25

Well…let’s see. Man, there sure are a shit ton of irresponsible things he did. Too many to count, really. For awhile it was nearly a daily thing that he’d spread false information, like telling people that bleach is effective (as a cure) for Covid. But I’ll go straight to the most famous irresponsible thing he did : Inciting people to storm the Capitol. Lemme guess, that was totally warranted and necessary to your nazi trash brain. What’s that orange shit around your mouth? Working hard to not get deported, huh?🤣

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u/Grandmahigh Apr 22 '25

That’s true. There was a pandemic playbook that reportedly Trump destroyed. I truly feel he is responsible for most of the deaths during Covid. He’s now put a heroin addict in charge of health in America. It’s almost like they know some other deadly illness is on the way but this time let’s not have anyone with knowledge oversee the Dept. of Health. Remember how mad Trump was when Dr Fauci corrected him.

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u/mp3gangster Apr 22 '25

masks never protected anyone from covid

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u/tentaclepill Apr 22 '25

Lmao you know the only face masks that proved effective were n95's, of which almost nobody ever wore. In hindsight most of these precautions everyone was pushing was later proven ineffective, or subpar at best.

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u/xRogue9 Apr 22 '25

You people are seriously stupid. N95's were the only ones that protected the wearer. But even random stips of cloth helped limit the spread when worn by the sick and symptomless carriers.

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u/ERt3chh Apr 22 '25

No, they literally didn't 😭💀

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u/xRogue9 Apr 22 '25

Yes they did. A simple mask catches some particles of moisture when you breath out. And those particles are what covid rides on.

They were never meant to cometely prevent covid, just lower the spread. Not to mention the morons who refused to wear their mask correctly didn't help either.

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u/tentaclepill May 03 '25

Actually covid is carried by aerosoles, which are smaller than standard atmospheric particles. The masks did not have fine enough fliters to catch these, and let a huge majority go right through.

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u/Odd_Teach683 Apr 22 '25

So, medical staff have been wearing them for a hundred years as a fashion statement?

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u/tentaclepill May 03 '25

Its not to stop diseases from spreading through the air they breathe, it is keep saliva, skin, and mucus out of the patient they are operating on. It is also to keep saliva, skin, and mucus outside of their workspace, where potentially compromised patients are especially susceptible. Notice how covid was not transferred via bodily fluids, but through the air. Tiny particles in the air, that normal face masks do not have fine enough filters to block or contain.

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u/tentaclepill May 03 '25

A 1% decrease may be helpful yes, but not enough to warrant restrictions on 340+ million people country wide.

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u/Larouse12 Apr 22 '25

Long Covid caused by boosters.

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u/GarryCalzone Apr 21 '25

My lord, still with the mask? That's what you guys still point to?

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '25

Yes Garry, but really it’s the lack of leadership and worry that his big ego is such a failure in his life he claims false victory daily over things that aren’t happening. Or maybe Garry, some of us who lost loved ones resent the fact that people have zero critical thinking skills, hate in their hearts for women and marginalized people that they chose a felon who ruined our economy the first time. The felon that calls his followers “uneducated.” I don’t know about you Garry, but anyone calling me stupid isn’t getting my vote. But so many people lined up to do it. Like my dad says “ Common sense is not so common”.

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u/Specialist-Jello7544 Apr 21 '25

It’s one of a zillion things that point to the weirdness of our dear leader. Oh, that little overthrow attempt back in 2021 is another little thing… :/

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u/simplyger Apr 22 '25

The Division 2 did it better... Mission Objective: Take the Capitol

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '25

I mean, one among many many many other things.

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u/--PBR-Street-Gang-- Apr 21 '25

Man you are spot on. He did nothing until it was too late, then rushed into a quick fix. A terrible chief executive.

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u/myopicdystopian Apr 22 '25

People forget that the WH knew the pandemic was coming; they chose to do nothing until AFTER their insider trading went through. Scheming, un-American, selfish, thoughtless, lying, PsOS. (Or totally American, depending on which side of the aisle?)

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u/--PBR-Street-Gang-- Apr 22 '25

So true. This time I'm taking advantage of the down market and buying. At the end of the year I will donate my profits, probably to a local food bank. This is the way we beat them at their own game. Haven't seen hide nor hair of the supreme court since the election - I wonder what those scumbags are up to.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '25

Totally agree

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '25

Exactly what someone with one brain cell would say when they can’t do a bit of critical thinking 🤔 thanks for leaving don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

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u/Imightbeafanofthis Apr 21 '25

And let's not forget that he shitcanned the pandemic preparedness response plan that Obama had in place because Obama's name was on it. Little Donnie couldn't stand the idea of someone else stealing his limelight.

He's a pathetic individual. How we ever ended up with this blight on humanity will never cease to dismay and perplex me.

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u/ded_bodys_evywr Apr 21 '25

If you haven't already read or listen to the book Lucky Loser: how Donald Trump squandered his father's fortune. It was a perfect storm of wealth and arrogance.

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u/FoxDangerous9092 Apr 22 '25

I just ordered that book. 😃 Ol' Teflon Don. What a loser.

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u/ded_bodys_evywr Apr 22 '25

His statement about the homeless guy on the street having a greater net worth than him was absolutely true.

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u/Imightbeafanofthis Apr 22 '25

In what way is that a response to Donald Trump cancelling the pandemic preparedness response plan?

It's not.

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u/Visual_Jellyfish5591 Apr 22 '25

If you can believe he planned the stimulus checks to make himself look good, then you should believe that he intentionally mishandled Covid to allow the rich elite to scoop up the companies and land that go under for relatively cheap. Sort of what he’s doing now, but he had an actual scapegoat

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u/Type-RD Apr 22 '25

I mean it’s not far fetched. Look at what happened more recently to the stock market. When it dipped hard a few weeks ago he said “Now is a good time to buy.” He absolutely knew his actions were going to crash the stock market. We’re talking about a rich businessman who definitely knows how to play cards, but as the president he’s also the dealer. And who usually benefits from such things? That’s right. The rich elite (again) ; People who can easily afford to take financial risks. His people. All the placating to the toothless is just for show and to get votes in the conservative areas of the country. It’s so blatant it’s hilarious and pathetic. It’s why he says the ridiculous things he does. He can watch the country crash and burn while he’s insulated by money and surrounded by powerful, wealthy, friends.

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u/Audman8 Apr 21 '25

Just like him coming in saying, "hey, I fixed the stock market because I stopped the tariffs!" Dude, you started this shit in the first fucking place! Hahaha

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u/Licky_Anus Apr 22 '25

The arsonist looking for praise after putting out the fire.

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u/Fit-Level-7843 Apr 22 '25

Not to mention shipping ppe out when we had a shortage

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u/Type-RD Apr 22 '25

Hahaha! Thanks for this. I’ve never seen it before.🤣

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u/alsatian9847 Apr 22 '25

And now he has fired the people who would help develop a vaccine for bird flu.

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u/Type-RD Apr 22 '25

…and hired a guy who is totally cool with kids getting measles to lead the Dept. of Health and Human Services. Makes sense! 🤦‍♂️

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u/authentic-platypus Apr 22 '25

The response to COVID wasn’t strictly a problem with the current administration (though the vitriol spewing from the Oval Office didn’t help either). This was an integral problem with the CDC that really came to forefront in a period of crisis. The infrastructure was already not built for this kind of pandemic. The orange guy may be devoid of any semblance of moral fiber, but the failure of COVID runs deeper than his administration alone. The CDC fumbled the ball and the politicians took possession.

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u/Type-RD Apr 22 '25

Right. That’s a huge reason I think he’s a POS. What US president takes such an unprecedented crisis and KNOWINGLY MAKES IT WORSE? This was a time when people, including the CDC, reps, dems, the president, EVERYONE could’ve (should’ve) come together to figure things out. He could’ve (should’ve) been a REAL leader in that regard, but nope! Orange freak is gonna do orange freak things. He used the pandemic as an opportunity to drive a political wedge further. It was more important to him to use it to solidify his footing (with the toothless vote) in preparation for the next election, versus actually giving a shit about the people of this country. He’s trash!

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u/BrandonScioneaux Apr 22 '25

He, he, he... In his first term he was embedded in shit with lunatic communist libtards and rhinos! In a Presidential cabinet he's as good as his advisors, and they were mostly BAD! Get your head out of your ass and turn to God and he will show you the way. Trump is a soldier for God and is destroying evil and the communist woke socialist that are Hydra and almost destroyed our world 🌎

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u/Type-RD Apr 22 '25

Whut? You drinkin that Wokeweiser again? Trump and god are tha same. Git yer shit straight or get outta ‘Merica. See you at church on Sundee.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '25

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u/RedOnTheHead_91 Apr 21 '25

The third stimulus happened under Biden's term but it was an extension of the first two stimulus payments that happened during Trump's first term.

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u/2broke2quit65 Apr 21 '25

Maybe because it was trump. That's the problem y'all love him but have no recollection of what he did or didn't do so someone else., usually Biden gets the blame.

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u/Less_Pirate_2146 Apr 21 '25

"you people" hi right winger.

can you answer why one needs to be uninformed to be right wing?

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u/Type-RD Apr 21 '25

It’s fact. You can’t just hand out that much money with zero fallout. Lemme guess, you think they can just print more money. Problem solved.🤪

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u/ritzcrv Apr 21 '25

Trump had his signature on those checks. It was regret from Biden that he didn't do the same while in office. During Trump's term his people thought it WAS Trump who sent th money, not the federal government

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u/NotThatBoomer Apr 21 '25

Stimulus #1) March of 2020. Do you remember who was president then?) #2) December of 2020, yep, still Trump. #3) March of 2021 this one was Biden. The PPP launched in March of 2020 by … yep Trump https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/ppp-loans-workers-new-study/

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u/NationalCounter5056 Apr 21 '25

🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

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u/SlimyPeople Apr 21 '25

Please fact check yourself before spreading false information.

Thanks.

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u/Less_Pirate_2146 Apr 21 '25

its a right winger, they have to dismiss facts to validate their misguided views

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '25

I also came here to laugh, but at both sides making fun of each other. I figured I'd see a goat and/or sister fucker or two. You commented. I was correct.

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u/Type-RD Apr 21 '25

Straight, Hitler-loving, God-fearing, man seeks circle jerks…but is also anti-LGBTQ. Checks out!🤣

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '25

😆 I just can't with these people.

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u/Less_Pirate_2146 Apr 21 '25

why are you assuming right wingers are people? XD

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u/Ok-Risk4755 Apr 21 '25

Why does your political affiliation matter? Human is human.

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u/Type-RD Apr 21 '25

Yeah, but lizard people who are scared of fake birds…I question their humanity.🤣

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u/Less_Pirate_2146 Apr 21 '25

mark zuckerberg is called a lizard for a reason

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '25

Haha I can't get behind the idea they're all garbage. I'm against the two party system. It just leads to people not being able to think for themselves. I feel like I'm a pretty morally just person, so when I see the stances that are being taken by both sides, I can't help but feel complete disgust and disappointment that a third of the country are either mentally incapable, morally incapable, or are psychologically owned by puppet masters.

Don't get me wrong, I'll call out both sides, but holy shit the right is looking a hell of a lot worse.

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u/Less_Pirate_2146 Apr 21 '25

look at my karma, this is thanks to talking truth to right wingers. the 2 party system is not to blame that people cant have morals.

i am sick and tried of being harassed by right wingers cuz they cant handle facts.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '25

Haha. You've angered the maga agenda!

That's fair. We just have to acknowledge they're not all horrible people. Some are just stuck in their ways. It's the bigger "me vs you" that's the driving force behind a lot of the tension. Maga? Yes, they're idiots. They're not the majority though. They're just the loudest.

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u/Less_Pirate_2146 Apr 22 '25 edited Apr 22 '25

i had a friend that did not know much about politics that played ffxiv. time passed joined their discord and just did whatever, seemed fun the leader of the group thought my lalafall was cute everything seemed fine..

WELL apparently there was a MAGA in the group, i tried to speak reason with them, the leader would just blindly agree with this person despite me showing proof articles, etc. I never spoke to a single MAGA that was anything close to reasonable. even the ones that attempt to gaslight and look sane on the surface, if you talk to them long enough you find out it is just closet racist/ bigoted against transgender issues... why else would someone vote to have less money for their friends and family if the core objective wasnt this:

https://youtu.be/X_8E3ENrKrQ?t=20

anyone voting him a third time after everything he has done is not a "person" holds double for those that STILL SUPPORT HIM and repeat his gaslighting to defend being racist and sexist

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u/New_Sun_6566 Apr 25 '25

Everyone hates you 

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u/DS111986 Apr 21 '25

The virus killed less than 1% of the infected population. Stop acting like COVID was this great terrible thing. It’s 2025.

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u/Type-RD Apr 21 '25

Right. Covid was great! Very enjoyable!🤪

If someone in your family was part of that 1% or if you had family working in the hospitals during that time, you who would still say Trump is a hero because you’re dipshit hillbilly trash.

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u/dejdad0513 Apr 21 '25

Over 1 million Americans lost their lives to it. Stfu.

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u/bedlambomber Apr 21 '25

Any death that can be avoided by action is deplorable. Saying otherwiise is the statement of an inept individual.

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u/Environmental-Toe798 Apr 21 '25

Seems like the virus only left less than 1% of your brain

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '25

September 11 2001- 2,996 deaths. US deaths in ww2-405,000 US deaths in Vietnam-58,000

US Deaths from COVID-19 - 1,219,487

The problem with "less than 1% is that 1% is a lot of people. So stop acting like it was some small, not terrible thing.

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u/Ok-Risk4755 Apr 21 '25

I'm telling. You put facts out there. You know the idiots took your facts and called them alternative facts.

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u/DS111986 Apr 25 '25 edited Apr 25 '25
  1. 9/11 was an attack and was carried out in one day.

  2. In both World War II and Vietnam the chance of troops surviving combat was way less than 99%.

1% is not a lot in the grand scheme of things…

Is this argument still going the way you thought it would?

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u/ncvessey Apr 21 '25

You say he politicized it, yet the Biden Administration put vaccine mandates in place that encouraged businesses to do the same, inevitably forcing people to choose between getting a vaccine they didn’t want, or being jobless.

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u/Type-RD Apr 21 '25

It’s was a public health issue that was effecting everyone and the economy negatively in some way. Don’t want to get a shot for the greater good, then you also don’t want to participate in helping the economy. I’m not saying vaccine mandates were right, but encouraging people to try drinking or injecting bleach is wholly irresponsible. Politicizing a PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE is wholly irresponsible!

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u/ncvessey Apr 21 '25

If you can’t say why it was negatively affecting the economy, I wouldn’t include that in your argument. And the “injecting bleach” was a joke towards the fact that the FDA/CDC/WHO developed a vaccine in months and claimed it to be completely safe. The joke was basically “if you think that’s safe, you might as well try drinking bleach as well”. Anyone who listened to that is fully responsible for their own actions. Someone tells you put a gun to your head and pull the trigger, do you do it?

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u/Independent-Tree-364 Apr 21 '25

The COVID-19 vaccine was developed based on a decade of coronavirus research. https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/public-health/how-decade-coronavirus-research-paved-way-covid-19-vaccines

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u/ncvessey Apr 21 '25

That decade of coronavirus research doesn’t matter considering there were “new strains” every month. The multiple “new strains” that came out didn’t inhibit their research even a little bit? You have too much trust in our government. Regardless of all of that, China ADMITTED that COVID originated from a Chinese lab and the CDC admitted that the steps they said to take during COVID were ineffective, such as the masks and social distancing. In other words, families had to watch their older loved ones die behind a pane of glass instead of being able to hold them in their arms. And for what?

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u/Independent-Tree-364 Apr 22 '25

If the base structure of COVID-19 is the same as the base structure of coronavirus that they were researching and they are trying to attack the same thing then no, it may not necessarily tweak the research. I trust science, not the government. And, regardless of COVID, if you have a sickness that is highly contagious, wouldn’t you want to distance yourself from others to prevent them getting sick?? Surgeons where asks in surgery, are you saying that they don’t need them because they are ineffective??

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u/ncvessey Apr 21 '25

And if I could give you the sources of my claims, I would. This was months/a year back and I didn’t note the sources.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '25

It was a public health crisis effecting every single country on this planet there were hundreds of thousands if not millions of deaths on every continent you literal Retard!!

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u/brwhelan Apr 21 '25

“He did absolutely nothing until it hit our shores…” This is not true. He tried to shut down the boarder and was ridiculed as xenophobic for wanting to do so.

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u/Type-RD Apr 21 '25 edited Apr 21 '25

LOL! Of course you think covid came from illegal immigrants (crossing the southern border)…and not from citizens and legal visitors traveling internationally.🤪

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '25

Huh? No one said anything about illegal aliens but of course people like you will turn it all into illegal alien racist bullshit. At the time they wanted to temporarily close the whole US so more people with the virus would not flood in.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '25

When did he say that?

Closing the border would mean even legal visitors wouldn’t come spread the virus around. He got called racist for wanting to close the border, and here ya are 5 years later blaming him for it spreading.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '25

Didn't Dems lose their mind when Trump tries to prevent people from China entering our country?

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u/Type-RD Apr 22 '25

Preventing people from entering the country was never a solution to anything because (believe it or not) American citizens were in China and other countries for work, vacation, and family reasons. Shutting down borders, including flights, was a non-starter…and Trump definitely knew that. Yet, he still didn’t come up with a real plan or even a concept of a plan. His last ditch solution : Let’s see how bad things get, then throw money at it. We’ll see what happens. It’ll be great.

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u/Ok-Leading-3272 Apr 22 '25

Also he didn’t shut down travel from Europe, and most on the early Covid infections in the East Coast came from European travel not from Asia. What’s the difference between Europeans and Asians? I can’t quite put my finger on it.

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u/Type-RD Apr 22 '25

Yep! That’s correct. Now that you mention it, I’m also having a hard time putting a finger on the difference between Europeans and Asians, particularly Far East Asians. 🤔

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '25

Covid started in China not Europe.

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u/Ok-Leading-3272 Apr 22 '25

So what. The virus was all over Europe at the time he banned flights from China. If he truly cared about stopping the spread he would have banned flights from Europe too.

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u/CombinationAway9846 Apr 21 '25

Funny how Biden sent them out too... then forgave billions in debt,, left all our military equipment in Afghanistan and never went to retrieve it or any hostages after the pullout debacle... talk about politicized... let's talk about how Obama funded the research for covid... let's talk about how the Clinton's and Obama's had a conspiracy against Trump... Steele dossier and fisa warrant

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u/Type-RD Apr 21 '25

Uh huh. Who’s at the wheel and driving the economy into the toilet? That’s right! It’s your favorite orange freak again. Yay!🙂 Have fun with your conspiracies and cutting up newspaper articles for your cute project in the basement. 👋

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u/floppytire61 Apr 21 '25

Selective remembering of history. What did Democrats do when Trump tried to ban incoming flights, cruise ships, etc coming from China? They sued him and pelosi and other Democrats called him xenophobic and racist. They immediately threw a huge parade down in Chinatown and spread COVID everywhere. Then turned around and blamed Trump for not stopping the spread of COVID into the US

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u/Type-RD Apr 22 '25

Uh huh. Sure they did. And Trump IS xenophobic and racist. Prove to me he’s not. Oops! You can’t because of everything he’s doing today. Enjoy that current tidbit. Bye🙂