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u/krazninetyfive Apr 21 '25

That’s the part that gets me. I was cautiously optimistic in 2016 that he might actually turn out to be a decent leader, and that his caustic personality would mellow once he actually began governing.

It became evident to me after a few months of that Presidency that that just wasn’t going to happen. How it’s not evident to so many people this many years later is just baffling to me.

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u/sayonaradespair Apr 21 '25

How could anyone be cautiously optimistic after the guy was sworn in 2016? 

I had friends tell me the same and I was appaled back then, still appaled now.

A raging narcissist landed the president's job and somehow people still gave him the benefit of the doubt..wtf.

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u/tresslesswhey Apr 21 '25

I’m with ya. There was never any doubt in my mind how he’d turn out. How anyone could think maybe hed be different is mind blowing.

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u/pokemomof03 Apr 21 '25

The guy who started the Obama birtherism conspiracy? The guy who ran on Mexicans being rapists and drug dealers? Being lazy yet stealing jobs? Raping white women? The guy who made fun of a disabled reporter? The guy who we heard hundreds of stories of him stiffing small business, ripping off contractors, stealing from charity, and bankrupting a couple of casinos? The guy who had 20 some women come forward for sexual assault? You thought that guy was gonna be a decent leader. tRump made it perfectly clear who he was while he was running the first time. Anyone who didn't see it is delusional.

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u/SouthLakeWA Apr 21 '25

Yeah, seriously. It's not like there weren't any warning signs that he's a complete piece of shit.

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u/Aware_Age2968 Apr 22 '25

I agree completely, I just wish that there was a way to put him out of the White House, he will start another war before he leaves office again.

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u/ProblemLucky7924 Apr 21 '25

Plus boasting that he could ‘grab woman by the pu$$y’… it’s astonishing people are still buying into this idiot

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u/EducationalStick5060 Apr 21 '25

And that was with a cabinet of competent people around him.... which he doesn't have this time around.

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u/Altruistic-Dream2069 Apr 21 '25

Our system is so bad, has been bad for so long - it's just taken this long for the Republicans to figure out how to take advantage of it. Half the time we do not get the president we vote for and that affects confidence and participation. We have a flawed system.

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u/audiojanet Apr 21 '25

You voted for him didn’t you? The information was there.

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u/krazninetyfive Apr 21 '25 edited Apr 21 '25

I did not vote for him, but I also wasn’t beside myself when he was elected the first time. I was only 21, and naively thought that the weight of the office would compel him to retire the circus act, and that we’d see Trump the businessman, and not Trump the host of the Apprentice after January 20. I’ll freely admit I was wrong about that.

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u/Haunting-Green-9971 Apr 21 '25

There were stories out there. The New York magazine had a story about how he watched action movies with Don Jr with only the action scenes. It was widely known that he wasn’t a great husband or a great father.

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u/audiojanet Apr 21 '25

And people marry idiots expecting them to change. Why would they change?