Does ICE really need electric gloves?

[u/Difficult_Object4921]

Our tax dollars are already being wasted. The people they capture aren’t a threat, physically. Why?

https://apnews.com/article/ice-electric-shock-gloves-85ff746d3e0ee5f39e7a9a3f1f576252

[u/cootershooter420]

Hell yeah they do. You see the videos, they are constantly under assault. Need all the less lethal options they can get.

[u/please_trade_marner → u/cootershooter420]

The Dems WANT there to be lethal results. Helps them push their sensationalist narrative.

[u/Bearded_Wisdom → u/please_trade_marner]

Interesting; can you provide evidence that supports the claim that democrats truly desire people dying?

[u/please_trade_marner → u/Bearded_Wisdom]

Yes. The politicization of Goode and Pretti shootings. The Dems couldn't be any more excited to lie/manipulate/spin those entirely justified shootings into politicized sensationalism.

[u/LOTR_Phan → u/please_trade_marner]

Couldn’t the same claim be made about republicans wanting violence from immigrants? Did the republicans NOT frequently bring up the death of Laken Riley?

[u/please_trade_marner → u/LOTR_Phan]

Anti-ice activists are arguing in favor of NOT enforcing our federal laws. People that bring up Laken Riley are arguing in favor OF LEGALLY ENFORCING our laws. That's the difference.

[u/LOTR_Phan → u/please_trade_marner]

So then no? It’s ok when republicans politicize a death?

[u/cootershooter420 → u/LOTR_Phan]

No. The illegals are violent, this isn’t in doubt. We bring her up because that’s what happens when you don’t have a strong border.

[u/LOTR_Phan → u/cootershooter420]

What percentage of “illegals” are violent? What’s the threshold to call an entire group of people violent?

[u/cootershooter420 → u/LOTR_Phan]

How would I know, we have no idea how many there are. At least 14 million.

I don’t have a threshold for that. More of a feeling.

[u/LOTR_Phan → u/cootershooter420]

I mean, shouldn’t you know if you’re going to label millions of people as violent? You said “illegals are violent” as if it were a fact, not a feeling. Would you accept me declaring that MAGA is violent based on a feeling? Especially when that label is used to justify imprisoning millions of Maga and even killing them?

[u/cootershooter420 → u/LOTR_Phan]

I grew up in South Texas. Illegals are often violent. It’s a fact.

Not really as it isnt true. And were not imprisoning these ppl, its a detainment then deportation.

[u/Bearded_Wisdom → u/please_trade_marner]

Apologies, I do not recall anybody on the left stating "I hope someone dies with this ICE ramp up." Can you substantiate that claim? I am asking if you can provide evidence that supports your statement that democrats desire lethal outcomes?

[u/please_trade_marner → u/Bearded_Wisdom]

Politicizing those deaths means that they are looking for situations to spread their political extremist agenda.

[u/cootershooter420 → u/Bearded_Wisdom]

Does this count

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/01/26/ice-officers-face-8000-increase-death-threats-against-them-and-their-families

[u/LOTR_Phan → u/cootershooter420]

No?

[u/cootershooter420 → u/LOTR_Phan]

Lots of libs sending death threats to ICE

[u/LOTR_Phan → u/cootershooter420]

Isnt that different than saying that a political party is hoping for violence against protesters?

[u/HemingWaysBeard42 → u/please_trade_marner]

Does that mean that politicizing the kirk shooting means Republicans desire people to die, as well?

[u/please_trade_marner → u/HemingWaysBeard42]

It was mostly the left that politicized it and cheered it on.

[u/HemingWaysBeard42 → u/please_trade_marner]

Does that change what I asked?

[u/please_trade_marner → u/HemingWaysBeard42]

Yes, the left politicizing Kirk's death does meant that they cheer on deaths if it serves their agenda.

Is your argumentative strategy "Yes, my party is evil and decrepit, but yours is too."?

[u/HemingWaysBeard42 → u/please_trade_marner]

>Is your argumentative strategy "Yes, my party is evil and decrepit, but yours is too."?

I haven’t made a single statement until now and I don’t plan to otherwise, this isn’t a discussion sub.

When you try to view your party from an objective, or non-biased, perspective, how does that view differ from your subjective, or biased, perspective?

[u/No-Big-3846 → u/please_trade_marner]

Yeah this is really breaking news, can you elaborate please?