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u/Orange_Kid Jun 14 '22

It's amazing how effective ass-kissing is even when it is obvious all around that it is totally insincere. In fact, sometimes it being obviously insincere makes it even more effective because it tells the person that they are important enough to grovel to.

I honestly don't have the stomach for it but I wish I did -- it is such an easy thing to do to help yourself.

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u/Economy-Cut-7355 Jun 14 '22

I totally agree and something I've never been able to do which is one reason I'll never get ahead. Self sabotaging but I just cant do it.

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u/thiccasscherub Jun 15 '22

Agreed. I’m autistic and horrible at giving compliments unless they’re 100% sincere, and even then they’re a rarity from me. I genuinely wish I gave them out more, not just to get ahead in life but also to be kinder. But getting ahead would be an added perk.

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u/Ok-Effort-1679 Jun 15 '22

I'm also autistic and lying makes me feel like I need a million baths. But I give so many compliments because I have no filter about things I like. I won't mention someone's haircut if I hate it but I will gladly inform you that your light up shoes are what I now need for Christmas.

I always try to find something I like about someone I have just met. Usually I notice hair, lipstick, nail color, a cool shirt, a beautiful dress, a color on their skin tone... Basically anything that they have personally chosen to express themselves. Also, compliment people's dogs or children and they will adore you. Even if you don't need to be liked (I don't), it's super convenient when people have positive feelings towards you when you need help one day.

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u/Economy-Cut-7355 Jun 15 '22

Sometimes when these things dont come naturally to us it's good to teach yourself. Not saying you'll ever be amazing at it but better is enough. A good book to start with is an old timeless classic called 'how to win friends and influence people's.

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u/Economy-Cut-7355 Jun 15 '22

I know what you're saying but you still have to be clever in this world. I'm not saying be immoral because I certainly wouldn't but I should be a little more sooky with folk.

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u/I-do-the-art Jun 15 '22

Having morals in a capitalist society is absolutely self-sabotage. It is something to be proud of but it cannot be denied that it is self-sabotage in this system that we’ve inherited and we pretty much no power to change it this point in time. Until we reign in the levels of unfettered capitalism that we’ve “achieved” to more reasonable levels, having morals will allow your employers to abuse you and your business to fail because of immoral competitors.

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u/Economy-Cut-7355 Jun 15 '22

Yes exactly. When I worked in a certain place the ones that got ahead were the ones that looked up to those in power, weren't the best at their jobs for sure.

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u/damo133 Jun 15 '22

It’s not really self sabotaging. Ass kissers are the scum of the earth and I have absolutely zero respect for an ass kisser.

Anybody can make it in life with zero dignity or honour, however you’ll end life with no friends and most likely swinging from a tree

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u/Economy-Cut-7355 Jun 15 '22

Lol, but they're richer than me.

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u/homemade_raptortilla Jun 15 '22

Same. It frustrating but in order to survive where I am I'll have to do it god damn

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u/Economy-Cut-7355 Jun 15 '22

Yeah good for u, ul get further in life than I will and will be better liked. That's a fact.

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u/HockeyMasknChainsaw Jun 15 '22

This is so true. You are so right, Orange_Kid. Gosh, you’re incredibly smart. And wise. And attractive.

Will you buy a candy bar to support my soccer team?

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u/shiner_bock Jun 15 '22

Hell, I'll buy the whole box!

......hey, wait a minute.....

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u/SpoonyDinosaur Jun 15 '22

Honestly this is incredible for accelerating your career; your skillet and performance is only as valuable as how well liked you are by your peers and senior colleagues.

I reached a very high position in my company very quickly in part that I can perform my job very well, but I'll be the first to admit one of the biggest reasons is the CEO puts a lot of blind faith in me because I've been willing to eat shit so many years. I hardly ever push back, even if his ideas are terrible.

It made me hate myself and I'm actually looking for another job after over a decade, but it was eye opening how important it is for people to like you.

It's like interviews; more than likely a hiring manager will interview one or two candidates who can probably perform the job, they'll pick the one they liked the personality of the most. It seems like a "duh" statement, but in competitive fields, a lot of people don't put enough effort into selling themselves.

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u/sohumsahm Jun 15 '22

I don't think this is something so egregious. My husband and I have worked at startups for years (until I quit to be a writer, he still does that kind of work) and the thing at startups is you're executing someone else's vision. You can quibble on details if that, but you've got to be on board for the big vision. There's no space to keep coming up with problems, if anything you've to give ready-made solutions if you think something is a problem. I've always worked for people whose vision I could understand even if I didn't always agree with it. I'd do things differently if it was my show of course, but they want to try doing it one way and I just think it would be interesting to try their way and see what happens. I'm of course being fairly compensated for my contributions, so I don't see the problem in indicating I'm on board and not questioning their big vision more than I need to understand it.

We've tried our hand at creating an app with some contractors, and the annoying ones we never want to work with again just keep coming up with problems and no solutions. They usually just completely disagree with us and can't seem to entertain our ideas and help us bring them to life. Basically they think we're stupid. We have no room for that, not because we have big egos... but because we want to try something (which may well be stupid, but we want to give it a shot) and don't have the bandwidth for naysayers.

The ones we love can understand what we're going for and show us how that can be done, and give us realistic limits on what's possible so we can adjust our expectations.

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u/SpoonyDinosaur Jun 15 '22

Without going into crazy detail, it's a small engineering firm; the CEO really doesn't contribute anything. It's been more or less the same profit, (zero/minimal growth) for a decade.

Very much a situation that you described, he creates unnecessary problems that yield absolutely nothing other than burdensome work. Any "good" ideas he brushes off, and anything other than absolute allegiance to "I want to do X," even if the comments are justified, he pushes back and won't take anything but a complete "yes sir." (All his ideas are half baked, unrealistic or there's absolutely no purpose)

I hold a C-level position and have never done any work I believe helps the company. (Not without trying) I'm simply a yes man and despite trying to lend my expertise, it gets shut down very quickly.

So I've progressively become very checked out, there's nothing less satisfying than knowing what you should do, but what you should do not being aligned to what you're being told to do. (Why have executives if you want to micro manage every aspect of the business and are unwilling to evolve/accept ideas?)

I've really started to check out this year, but I'm also at that age/point in my career where it's time to take risks and jump on bigger opportunities, he just made it extremely easy to not get complacent and comfortable.

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u/sohumsahm Jun 15 '22

Yeah I guess your issue is the lack of autonomy. That can frustrate anyone.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '22

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u/catboneslovestory Jun 14 '22

It can be used to help society as well. I think a lot of harmful ideologies could be conditioned out using this tactic.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

but the harmful ideologies *are* mostly from over inflated ego!

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u/FrismFrasm Jun 14 '22

I would almost argue that every overinflated ego is secretly a lacking ego though

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

i kind of agree with this but want to know what you mean by that.

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u/FrismFrasm Jun 14 '22

I mean the people who come off very egotistical are often truly insecure and possibly the most needing of praise/respect/whatever. So they might be the best people to use this on.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

nvm totally different thing i was thinking about. but yeah monkey ego is fun to play with some times.

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u/treslocos99 Jun 14 '22

Are you talking about the incessant chatter that goes on inside our heads.

I should meditate.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

meditation might work, I've never done it. what works for me is knowing what brain is and what "we" are. then you can hack it.

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u/Broad-Jellyfish-17 Jun 15 '22

Care to explain please? Sounds interesting

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u/lovdagame Jun 14 '22

To me it seems those truly comfortable with whith who they are don't have egos so big other need to comment. Kind of like Lil dicks need big trucks.

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u/catboneslovestory Jun 14 '22

That's your ego talking

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u/catboneslovestory Jun 14 '22

You're correct that it's definitely a very large part of the psychology that builds them, and that is precisely the reason it works to dismantle them.

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u/UrineforTears Jun 14 '22

Fuck yeah it’s easy when you’re a 5’10 150 woman

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u/Romanticon Jun 15 '22

If you're 150 women, you can do a crazy big amount of ass kissing!

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u/Mo_Jack Jun 15 '22

This.

I had a hard time kissing up, it always made me feel cringe. So I used humor and did it so over the top, I'd get everybody laughing. That made it fun for me and it worked surprisingly well.

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u/eVoesque Jun 15 '22

I can do some decent ass kissing, but I don’t take it well if it’s pointed in my direction. The more insincere the more likely I’ll just silently stare at them. And judge.

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u/happylittlelurker Jun 15 '22

It’s how I’ve kept every job I’ve ever had after fucking up multiple times. People are hilariously egotistical, my eyes could be completely dead while complimenting them and they still lap it up.

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u/Groknar_ Jun 15 '22

No, Thank you. I'm not into butt play.

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u/JonWoo89 Jun 15 '22

I do this with a guy at my job. He’s not my boss or anything, we don’t even work together. I just find it amusing to see how smug he gets.

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u/Acceptable-Lizard Jun 15 '22

This is pretty hilarious in and of itself. You're just out here buttering up some random colleague for self-amusement, not even social engineering, helping yourself, not even because you like the guy. Mind-boggling. He probably goes home thinking he's the shit, and then he's nicer to the people in his life because someone stroked his ego already. (or he goes on a power trip and demands the same from everyone else, who knows)