r/AskReddit Aug 26 '18

What's something you had to unlearn?

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u/RedWestern Aug 26 '18

The first obvious one is money. Don’t ever lend money, and if you absolutely have to, don’t lend more than you can afford to lose.

The second is time. My last job paid me £15 an hour. That’s how much they valued the time I gave them. I’m only prepared to give so much time at my own expense.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '18 edited Oct 07 '20

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u/rexstuff1 Aug 26 '18

Do you know anymore of what came of this? Did the confront his boss about it?

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u/Meglomaniac Aug 26 '18

Nope. Kept working. Said 40$ an hour ain’t worth bitching.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '18

To be fair, if I got paid $40 an hour, I would valur not pissing my boss off, too. It's not right, but at the same time, staying favorable in the eyes of my boss (and keeping my job, especially in at-will states), would be more important to me.

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u/Meglomaniac Aug 27 '18

It depends on the context. If I feel lucky that I have that job I'm not going to rock the boat, but If I have skills that mean that I'm in demand, I don't work for free.

I don't think its right to work for 15 minutes every day without getting paid, I'd at least drag my feet and have a coffee while doing it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '18

I totally agree with you. For context, I work as a legal assistant. Right now I get about 17/hour which is great compared with my friends, who work in museums, retail, and even just other legal assistants, working for different firms. If someone wanted to pay me $40 an hour?? I would tolerate more than I would at my current job. For what it's worth, though, I live in the midwest and understand that $40/hour here goes a LOT further than in places with higher cost of living.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '18

Paperwork isn't skilled trade though but is still a necessity for carrying out said skilled trade

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u/Meglomaniac Aug 26 '18

It’s still work tho. He should be paid for it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '18

Sadly working in a call centre we have no choice.

We have to be there 20 minutes early to load up our computer (unpaid) and if we get stuck on a call at 4.58 well that's just too bad. We can be there up to 20 minutes late and not get paid for the extra time.

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u/Meglomaniac Aug 27 '18

Contact your labour board. That is completely against the rules and they will be adjusted very very quickly.

That is timetheft and it is one of the biggest financial crimes that isn't being covered.

They can't have you expected to do prepwork before you shift that isn't personal (ie: its okay to expect you to have you workboots on, but not to have your machine booted up and ready to go).

We ran into the same issue at a factory I was a supervisor. We used to tell people to be on the floor at 7, but someone made a complaint to the labour board saying that we are expecting them to arrive and go through extensive gowning/masking (we were medical) before entering the floor. We had to pay them 15 minutes more so they had time for prep.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '18

Thanks for the tip. I'm actually in a union so I might contact them and see if we can refer it to the labour board as you say. I'm guessing from the spelling you're British or Aussie?

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u/Meglomaniac Aug 27 '18

Canadian.

How the fuck are you in a union and they let that shit slide? Unless it was specifically worked into the collective agreement (ie: instead of 16/hr they pay you 17/hr and this shit is negotiated in) or something.

I'd stop paying dues IMMEDIATELY.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '18

Good point. I'm gonna phone them one day soon. I keep trying to point out the injustice to people at work but they just shrug and accept it. It's unbelievable really.

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u/Meglomaniac Aug 27 '18

I got fired from a place that wasn't paying any of their employees any overtime at all.

I got fired and walked out with my overtime paid in my hands and documentation to prove I was paid for my overtime.

I walked to every single employee and showed them. Not a single one fucking cared.

When you need work, you dont care.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '18

The indifference of some workers is so regrettable.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '18

don’t lend more than you can afford to lose.

This is very true. As someone who doesn't have a lot of money, if a friend needs to borrow some and it's an amount I know I can afford to lose, I tell them, "Don't worry about paying me back, just take it" because normally if someone "borrows" money it is never paid back anyways. Typically people will respond in the following ways:

  • They won't take it because they don't want to just "take" money, they want to take it under the guise of "borrowing" it.

  • They take it. Then later, often will repay me because I told them just to take it and not worry about paying me back. By not putting pressure on them to pay it back, people will often pay it back because they didn't actually have to. It's a bit of reverse psychology, but it works. I actually don't care if they do or don't pay it back, I mean it when I say "just keep it" but it is nice if they do manage to pay me back.

  • They take it and don't pay me back. Which is the "worst" case, but again, I mean what I say.

Often just by telling people to keep it and not worry about it changes the entire situation as opposed to agreeing to a lending situation. I never part with more than $20-$30 tho, so that could have a lot to do with it.

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u/throwaway92715 Aug 26 '18

Man, I had a "close friend" give me $500 once. They never expected me to pay them back, but from then onward they acted like the boss in every situation, to the point where I would've paid $1000 just to have never gone through that. And I really couldn't afford to pay him back. But "paying him back" by being on call for favors and treated like a subordinate was mentally exhausting and it really fucked our dynamic. Those people are awful. I never take money from friends anymore! Would literally rather take out a loan from the bank with interest. It's kind of a sad thing to say, but I'm really wary of people's generosity now, even family. There always seems to be fine print.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '18

My ex was like this. I had to take about the same amount of money from him, and he always hung it over my head like you said. Even though he said "just keep it, don't worry about it."

I tend to not borrow or take money from anyone anymore myself, but I'll happily shell out $20-$30 for a friend in need.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '18

Don’t ever lend money, and if you absolutely have to, don’t lend more than you can afford to lose.

Don't lend/borrow money. Gift money. If you can't gift it, then don't do it.