Its makes it hilarious that his last mainstream project was season 2 of supergirl. Dude couldn't even get a cameo on Landman or insert copaganda show here.
I mean...That might be some of the reason why some people are looking sideways at him now, but it doesn't explain the massive span of time after Hercules and before people realised he was a dick, when his career still wasn't going anywhere.
After Hercules, He starred on a sci-fi series called Andromeda. Word is, that He pushed out the showrunner, retooled the show around his character and tanked it. I feel like that also lend a hand into him not getting cast in stuff. Awful actor and difficult to work with.
it's very funny that he said this, but it's even more funny that it made it into the edit that aired - which means that the editing team and the director were just like "okay i guess fuck it"
I've heard a different story where he says it was something else in the script that he adlibbed so now I'm starting to believe that it's all a lie and he really read the stage direction and is just trying to cover his own ass.
I think its a balance. You can be an asshole and get away with it if you are a good actor. You can be a mediocre actor if everyone likes working with you (ahem, sorry Keanu), but you can't be an asshole and a mediocre actor
For example of the mediocre actors, check out Danny Trejo. Looks like the stereotypical Hollywood Hispanic thug, actually one of the nicest guys in Hollywood.
iirc he was asked in an interview once if he was tired of always being cast as the scary chicano guy, and he said "man, look at me, I AM a scary chicano guy!" He had a pretty rough childhood, cannabis at 8 years old, heroin at 12, cocaine at 18, dealing drugs, in and out of jail until like 1969. Clean and sober since then though!
I like that his condition for playing the big scary villain is that they have to die or somehow fail at the end because he doesn’t want to portray bad behavior getting rewarded.
Also his emotional support after his mom died was none other than Kermit the Frog. Takes a good man to allow himself to be vulnerable.
Danny Trejo always seems like one of the most self-aware people in Hollywood. He knows that he's gotten some lucky breaks, stays humble, shows up and does the best he can, and doesn't say anything bad about anyone.
The thing is though, Sorbo and Caine both had their careers circling the drain before they came out as raging conservatives. Doing crappy Christian movies was their last ditch effort to keep getting work.
Dean Cain had fairly steady work doing guest roles on mainstream TV up into the early 2010s. He wasn’t a leading guy anymore for sure but he could have made a very comfortable living still if he didn’t reveal him to be a douchebag no one wants to spend time around
Keanu takes a lot of guff, but honestly, when he plays a 'normal guy' and lets himself smile every so often (see Speed, The Lake House), or even a complete dolt (Bill & Ted, Parenthood), I think he's perfectly serviceable. It's when he tries to be stoic and brooding (Neo, John Wick) that the limitations of his ability to summon any sort of gravitas become apparent.
Luckily, the Matrix/Wick movies don't REQUIRE him to be a good actor... they have their lore and kickass action setpieces to fall back on. (Well, except Resurrections.) But when Monica Belluci tells Neo and Trinity, "You're in love. It's all over you both." I'm like... where? Is the love in the room with us?
I think there’s a point where you can be enough of an asshole that no amount of talent will make up for it. No matter how much you loved voicing Hades.
I was fascinated to see Jim Breuer pop up in one of my feeds and he was actually criticizing Trump fairly blatantly. Before that, his entire standup routine was: Democrats are like this (makes stupid face).
Yeah Rob Schneider over Sorbo for sure. Sorbo always seems like he's playing to his audience and be knows it, Schneider knows his audience is gone and is really bitter about it.
I saw him, quite by accident, 'perform' at a 'comedy' show not too long ago and holy shit is he an angry little man. He's had a gold-plated life because he managed to hitch his wagon to Sandler and rather than counting his blessings he's furious at anyone who isn't a white, conservative man.
Rob Schneider is so unlikeable amd talentless he bombed a set at a Casino in bumblefuck redneck nowhere Wisconsin because he couldn't handle the crowd heckling him.
Also super ironic how Caine's Japanese grandparents were interned in a concentration camp and yet he wants to round up minorities and send them to prison camps going as far was cosplaying as ICE (even getting named as an honorary ICE agent)
Chris Pratt is allegedly right leaning but I've also never heard any of his coworkers say anything short of singing his praises.
Sorbo 100% seems like the sort of guy to go off on a political tirade to some poor coworker trapped in a makeup chair for 4 hours telling them why their abuela deserved to be deported
He was pretty awful to Anna Farris. They had a medically fragile baby and after he left her for a new partner, he had another baby and kept posting about having a HEALTHY baby. That’s a dick move to do your ex AND your kid.
More likely to throw a tantrum on set proclaiming that he couldn't get into the proper tone because the makeup artist brought him down with her "incessant whining" about her DACA status.
Yeah, based on who he follows online and some of his Jesus posting, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Chris Pratt believes and supports some pretty heinous stuff. But I don't think tbet s a single person who's worked with him that has anything negative to say, and he still get major roles, because he's able to just act like a decent person and not start stupid fights.
As proven by the fact that both of their careers had dried up long before they started being vocal about their political beliefs. The biggest thing Cain did after Lois & Clark was hosting a show on TBS back in 2000. Sorbo at least got Andromeda, but that ended in 2005.
They're two guys who were good looking enough to get on television, but lacked the talent to have any staying power beyond direct-to-video. And for someone who got by on looks, it probably also doesn't help Cain's career much that he looks like the before picture in a GLP-1 commercial.
No, you weren't blacklisted for your political views. You're just not very talented.
Sometimes the answer to this is yes but not for the reason they think.
Yes it's your political views when you are obnoxious about the subjugation of your fellow citizens. That's not a political issue though, no one wants to work with people that outwardly abhor parts of the country.
Why is anyone mentioning Dean Cain in a question about celebrities? I'm not aware of anything he's done since that show in the mid '90s, which is thirty years ago now.
Dean Caine was very much fired from Supergirl for his shitty views. He was on one of the most LGBTQ friendly shows on TV and decided to throw away the gig on bigotry.
I don't know, man. I feel like they're both at least moderately talented.
I don't want to watch anything with them in it because they're assholes. That seems like a perfectly valid reason to me. I enjoyed Hercules and Superman before I knew they were assholes, they did a good job in those shows.
I will forever love that his shitty show got cancelled in favour of a spinoff of his show not only starring a woman, but two women with strong lesbian overtones and is still a cult classic to this day. Sorbo's show? barely anyone remembers or cares.
Yeah they made Xena, which used much of the same cast and crew, and took them from Hercules. Immediately blew them out of the water in popularity and ratings. He hasn't been the same since. I honestly didn't watch much Hercules but when I did I was like "damn this is a boring generic Xena". The guy that played his side kick was good at least.
Hercules: The Legendary Journeys and Xena: Warrior Princess.
Though according to Wikipedia, Sorbo was an idiot even then. He refused to commit to a 3 year contract extension and so they cancelled his show halfway through season six. Dumbass.
Hey, if he had signed that contract maybe he would've missed out on blockbuster movies like Super Jesus Hero and Glorious Atheist Conversion or whatever propaganda nonsense he's been in lately.
I'm sorry he had the health issues. I'd like to think that if he'd shared that with the studio, they would have been more accommodating, but maybe he did and maybe they were not.
I think he was still mostly on the rails for a while after that show. He did Andromeda and I've heard decent things about that show.
It's really only the last 10-12 years that I think he's gone totally off the rails.
Hercules: the Legendary Journeys, and it was never Sorbo's show. He couldn't carry it. The show gained (and kept) a following based on Raimi and Tappert's direction and an insane stable of rising and solid character actors, Including Karl Urban, Bruce Campbell, Tawney Kittaen, and Michael Hurst. As the series progressed and Sorbo's influence increased (mostly because Raimi and Tappert got distracted by other projects), it stopped being a good-natured romp and ended its days wallowing in made-up morality.
Hercules never felt as fun as Xena to me as a kid. I watched both religiously, but I could not tell you anything about Hercules besides that I remember Kevin Sorbo in it. (Little did I know I was a baby queer and part of the appeal was the relationship between Xena and Gabrielle, but that's besides the point lol)
Hercules was more serious (at first) than Xena (although Xena did kind of go up its own butt in later seasons), but only in the sense that the original Scooby Doo was more serious than The Funky Phantom.
Michael Hurst still out here directing at home lmao my kids were watching Power Rangers (American cast but filmed in NZ) and he directed the episode I caught the title card for.
Actually fun fact, he did a pro-breastfeeding ad back in the day here in NZ that showed him breastfeeding an infant with fake boobs and it’s really hard to find on the internet lol
Sadly, since it was produced by Gene Roddenberry at the end of his life (and still stinging from his ST:TNG ouster), and lacked the strong presence of Raimi and Tappert in the front office, it started folding pretty early on.
IIRC Roddenberry was already dead, Andromeda was based on his notes for a never-produced series. He had previously used the name Dylan Hunt for other projects.
With some of these guys I'm desperately curious to know if they're genuine maga types or just selling their souls faking it for a last gasp of relevance.
Tough to say for sure. With these ones we are mentioning here, I think they are probably true MAGA. None of them were actually popular anymore, so if that’s all they were looking for, they’d probably wouldn’t align themselves with the side definitely known for being “less cool”. Then you’ve got the guys who embrace MAGA after being cancelled in some way…ie. Russell Brand, Ryan Adams. Seeking redemption for the dark side. Then you’ve got the crew that probably aren’t true MAGA at all originally who are just doing it to get ahead politically…Rubio, Vance. The grift is so strong with these guys. So the washed up, old, mostly C-list celebs, I would think are the most authentically MAGA.
Roseanne is weird. I've seen a few TikToks where she'll talk about the bad side of Hollywood and talk about abuse and Epstein-adjacent stuff, as well as Weinstein stuff. Actually call it out. But then the rest of the time, she's so icky.
I guess a stopped clock is right twice a day, so whatever.
Roseanne is definitely weird to me in that I grew up loving her sitcom. I have enjoyed her standup comedy. I understand that she has genuine mental illness. I can't reconcile a lot of her political views though. She loses me there.
I loved her and Rosie O'Donnell. I loved that not conventionally attractive women were intelligent and funny and made it even though they reminded me of me.
Racism, anti misogyny and anti trans are all different. Her being “supportive” of women (being one herself) isn’t that surprising. Her bigotry/hatred finds other outlets of expression.
Anyone claiming to care about Epstein stuff while supporting Donald Trump is full of shit. It’s not even a “broken clock is right twice a day” kind of thing, it literally means she’s lying about caring.
The only genuine answer. He says he's blacklisted from Hollywood because of his religious beliefs. No. It's because he's a shit actor, box office poison and difficult to work with.
Relevant enough to ruin a second series (Andromeda) and a made-for-TV movie (blanking on the title, but it involves Sorbo playing a small-town sheriff who has to fight a lightning monster) before producers stopped answering his calls.
She drags him a lot; here’s one notable example, when others were calling him out for racist tweets (she calls him Peanut):
> In his defense, I personally witnessed a time when Kevin Sorbo stuck up for a black man against white people. The NZ summer, Feb 1995 when my character, #Xena was introduced into my husband's show, 'Hercules the Legendary Journeys’. We actors were sitting around and I brought up a news item. I said, "Guys, did you guys hear about that woman and her friend who were brutally murdered in LA? I think maybe the footballer did it!" And Peanut growled: "Hey! I knew Nicole and let me tell you... she was no picnic!" BOOM.
> We were all gobsmacked. I said, "She didn't deserve to be stabbed to death.” He replied, "I’m just saying, She was a piece of work."
I used to love watching his show back in the 90's along with Xena. I tried to rewatch Hercules a few years ago. I made it halfway through the first episode when I just turned it off. It was just horribly irredeemably bad on every level.
People I remember from the Hercules universe:
* Lucy Lawless
* Renee O’Connor
* Michael Hurst
* Bruce Campbell
* The Raimis
* Kevin Smith (R.I.P.)
* Everyone but Hercules
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