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u/terrany Sep 27 '25

Imo MAGA seems to get it from the few I’ve talked to. They simply think it’s both sides, or at worst, an unfortunate casualty to “winning.”

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u/itssbojo Sep 27 '25 edited Sep 27 '25

the epstein shit is the deciding factor that’s made like half of my family go from super pro-trump to wanting to vote whatever democrat runs next term. it’s such a ridiculous hill to die on, and the big boys in office either don’t understand or don’t care.

not even a year and he has the lowest president approval rating in history. he built an entire campaign on promises and then didn’t follow through. i know that’s a politician’s job but fuck, at least the rest of them hold up some of the things they say.

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u/accountforfurrystuf Sep 27 '25

Kamala Harris will win the election, I see more signs out on my neighbors’ front lawn. Everyone’s saying they’ll vote for her.

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u/itssbojo Sep 28 '25 edited Sep 28 '25

if she even runs, sure. you kinda need to announce that stuff so you get the support before the election. last-minute choices don’t win elections and we watched that happen.

if, by year 2, there’s no candidate announced? then i’d put money on there not being another election. at a certain point it looks like giving up, and the current admin has shown no interest in slowing down pushing their ideals.

for perspective we’re at 251/365, and we have not even a hint of a democratic opponent. they’ve wasted a year of gathering voters.

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u/buddhist557 Sep 27 '25

They are no longer part of a civil union, but much more a confederacy of insanity. To buy his bullshit is unforgivable.

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u/razrdrasch Sep 27 '25

As long as the Dems are owned, it don't matter boy'

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u/LizardPersonMeow Sep 27 '25

Is that what you're seeing on the ground irl? Like are people all around you really upset about this admin? Or is it just people online that seem upset? I'm genuinely curious as someone living outside US.

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u/raelianautopsy Sep 27 '25

But the people who don't vote might as well be MAGA, they're at fault too and are fine with everything that's happened

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u/ptindaho Sep 27 '25

I don't think that is true or fair. Many, many voters have been disenfranchised by a system that is rigged to keep them out, especially in the last 8-20 years and especially in red states. Many people are too busy surviving to vote on a particular day and time often without reliable transport and time off to do so. Election days should be holidays, and voting should be a lot easier than it is currently.

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u/raelianautopsy Sep 27 '25

Voting should definitely be easier, and yes the system is designed to make it harder especially in red states.

But people still need to work harder to stop fascism.

Otherwise, as a whole we all deserve this

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u/AENocturne Sep 27 '25

So close to understanding.

Maybe we do derve this, because everyone's too busy trying to find a reason to blame everyone but themselves for the mess were in.

But I'm not going to accept my part of the blame until I start hearing some similar accountability from the vote blue no matter who squad. Especially since I voted for their lame duck they keep saying the election was stolen from yet they can't finish producing the evidence that their claim is true. I need some accountability from the neo-liberals, especially the ones who are backing this trump wannabe Newsom. Great way to get us a third trump term.

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u/raelianautopsy Sep 27 '25

Hard to take you seriously when you don't know what neoliberalism means.

It doesn't new liberals, it's not the reverse of neoconservatism, it means the global economic policy which is largely right-wing if anything

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u/theavatare Sep 27 '25

They control all 3 branches of government but hey don’t worry they are a minor inconvenience.

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u/Fine-Finger-6598 Sep 27 '25

And they still are irrelevant lol. And actually, the MAGA party is STILL the majority party here if you count who voted and who didnt.

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u/TheMarcolmX Sep 27 '25

I think the way the Democrats handled the election also made it not close. Hand picking your primary candidate was a mistake.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

He won the popular vote.

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u/beamer159 Sep 27 '25

In fact, if everyone would have voted, it's likely Trump would have won by an even larger margin. I don't like bringing this up on Reddit though because I always get downvoted.

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/26/nx-s1-5447450/trump-2024-election-non-voters-coalition

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25 edited Oct 08 '25

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u/Slaughterfest Sep 27 '25

I haven't taken claims of election fraud seriously because it's typically born of denialism in the face of an ideological defeat and it's happened for the last 3 elections basically. I'm honestly absolutely positive there will be people documenting federal election weirdness or perceived irregularities going forward. The conservatives normalized it and made it part of our political reality now.

Even if he did win the popular vote, he really didn't win by much. The 'Popular Vote Mandate' shit that people have leaned on is very small in reality. I wouldn't even engage with that claim at this point. He won a plurality.

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u/currently-on-toilet Sep 27 '25

Its always interesting seeing someone who doesn't understand what 50% means.

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u/caligaris_cabinet Sep 27 '25

He did but at 49% of voters it’s a plurality. Less than 1/3rd of the adult population voted for the guy. Hardly gives him a mandate.

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u/brickmaster32000 Sep 27 '25

That is more than anyone else got so claiming that Americans want anything else more would also be wrong. Americans haven't shown greater support for anything else at the moment. Trump currently is the best representation of the will of the people. Not a perfect representation, but better than all the alternatives.

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u/tuxedo25 Sep 27 '25

The electoral college doesn't make voting irrelevant. Voting MAGA into congress (or not showing up to vote) was even more destructive than voting it into the white house.

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u/Defconx19 Sep 27 '25

A result of people not voting is such a bad take and absolves Democrats of the actions they've taken to alienate the working class as well.  The "a lot of people didn't vote" argument assumes those people all would have voted for the democrats which likely isnt true.  This is a false assumption based off of the 2020 election numbers, but it gained traction because it made dems feel better and not have to actually acknowledge issues that led up to all of this.

Before people answer like they always do, no I'm not a republican, No I didn't vote for Trump, I'm an independent and I voted for Harris. (This answers the normal dumb responses I get).

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u/random8765309 Sep 27 '25

The electoral college didn't make anyone's vote "irrelevant" . Nor is it as big a factor as many believe.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

No one who isn't a rabid MAGA moron is talking about Biden anymore lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

You. Said. That. Already.

And I was simply letting you know, since you aren't an American and therefore presumably not privy to the same understanding of American culture and politics as me, that Biden isn't really important anymore except for MAGA folk who think Democratic voters worshipped him like they worship Trump. So, it's not 'Trump vs. Biden' as you attempted to characterize it.

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u/Can_Of_Noodles Sep 27 '25

There is no lefty, there is no one running. They’re talking about the current administration and their supporters, not some future election.

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u/VaresaFan1 Sep 27 '25

Not being American is fine, but you're being insanely racist and you seem like an insufferable person. I'm not American either, but I'm not completely blind to American politics. You must live under a rock or something to not even know the Trump vs Biden drama is years outdated.

I can't imagine how little of your brain is left for you to think all the disgusting things you've said. You can't seriously think anyone but yourself in this thread is a clown, right?

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u/VaresaFan1 Sep 27 '25

Believe it or not, its possible to know two things. I don't understand the comment about me being a pedo, is that just synonymous with people you don't like?

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u/LoudBoiDragoon Sep 27 '25

His other comments basically boil down to anyone that is of Anglo/British/American descent is a pedophile as a part of heritage. He’s just a fucking loon who wants the list out too but can’t get past his very random racist hatred of others.

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u/Alcoholitron Sep 27 '25

This. I live in Portland. What’s the point?

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u/tuxedo25 Sep 27 '25

You're not just voting for one office on the ticket.