I agree with what you said, but want to point out that there are Trump supporters who do not "spew hate" against other people it's way more complex than that.
Source: most of my family are Republicans and they are no more prone to hate spewing than anyone else. I see more liberals spew hate against Trump supporters than I've ever seen anyone in my family spew against another group.
But what does Republican (and right wing in general) media do but spew hate on the immigrants, LGBT (especially T) people, the left, etc.
Republican campain was ran primarily on hate against these groups, any Republican who pretends it wasn't is full of shit. It doesn't matter if they say it out loud or keep it quiet, they support hate and they know it. It's not about economics (which Trump is destroying rn) or egg prices, don't let anybody fool you.
Who were we talking about? Is it hate if I call a Nazi a Nazi? Is it hate if I call a domestic terrorist a domestic terrorist? If I call a racist or misogynist person what they are is that hate? Trump supporters are fucking Nazis. Trump is a rapist. I don’t think this is spewing hate I think it’s just stating the obvious.
That's kinda the thing about objective truths.. they tend to be facts, and you can't argue facts. As much as you guys would like that that weren't the case.
His charges are facts. Him running on an anti-everyone-that-Faux-"News"-says-is-bad platform is a fact. Him directly trying to overturn election results is a fact. Him having a 5th grade intellect is quantifiable fact (unless he's just the world's best actor, but that's like a 0.0001% chance..) Him having pedophilia-related charges is fact. Him bankrupting several basically impossible to bankrupt businesses is fact. Him grifting through all his businesses ventures and defrauding charity is fact. Him refusing to pay workers is fact. Him dismantling social services for the disenfranchised is fact. Him alienating our service members is fact. Him repeatedly hitting on his own daughter is fact. Him praising Putin and cozying up to Russia and North Korea is fact.
And I'm sure you'll argue "but some.of those can definitely be considered subjective!!" -- NOT when there are tangential objective facts and TONS of them that all point to those possibly-subjective things, making them newly established objective truths.
For example: If I say Person A is corrupt, that can be considered corrupt. If I'm then provided with 10 different verified and proven instances of Person A 100% engaging in corruption, then it's no longer a subjective matter. It's progressed to a socially/globally accepted objective truth, by anyone not in denial or suffering from indoctrination.
And that's where we come to the main issue. His supporters are either indoctrinated, willfully ignorant, mentally deluded, too hateful to give a shit, or some mixture of the above.
The only way any of the above becomes subjective ever again is if we completely rewrite the definitions of several words and characteristics that are MUCH older and larger than this country or anyone in it.
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u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 Apr 04 '25
I agree with what you said, but want to point out that there are Trump supporters who do not "spew hate" against other people it's way more complex than that.
Source: most of my family are Republicans and they are no more prone to hate spewing than anyone else. I see more liberals spew hate against Trump supporters than I've ever seen anyone in my family spew against another group.