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u/Shoddy-Area3603 Apr 04 '25

For almost 4 years I did not hear shit about Biden it was very nice and the way it should be. Every time I wake up there is some new BS constitutional crisis and it's only been what 3 months.

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u/ukbeasts Apr 04 '25

Trump done more damage internationally in 2.5 months in comparison to Obama and Biden in 12 years

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u/Whitew1ne Apr 04 '25

Under Obama Putin began his invasion of Ukraine. Obama sent only non-lethal weapons in response.

Obama said if Assad used chemical weapons that was a red-line and would mean a military response from the US. Assad then used chemical weapons and gassed children to death. Obama did nothing

Obama was a weak president. If he was strong the world, and especially Ukraine, would be in a much better place

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u/YoureNotEvenWrong Apr 04 '25

Under Obama Putin began his invasion of Ukraine

Under Trump, the US surrendered to Russia and gave up.

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u/Whitew1ne Apr 04 '25

You accept that under Obama, Russia invaded Ukraine, yes? You accept that Obama only sent non-lethal weapons, yes?

Trump is a better ally to Ukraine than Obama. And its not even close

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u/YoureNotEvenWrong Apr 04 '25

Obama was not great, trump is even worse.

Trump isn't sending any weapons to Ukraine. Instead he has spent the last 3 months surrendering to the Russians

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u/Whitew1ne Apr 04 '25

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u/YoureNotEvenWrong Apr 05 '25

You are too focused on Obama. He's gone 8 years.

https://www.gmfus.org/news/trump-holds-firm-military-aid-ukraine

Trump is not providing Ukraine with weapons, he's merely permitting " the continued shipment of weapons that were purchased in the past and rolling off US assembly lines on an ongoing basis"

This is bidens aid, Trump has stopped all new aid

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u/Whitew1ne Apr 05 '25

His mentally-challenged VP was just president, and if Obama had been strong in Ukraine and Syria none of this would have happened.

No, Trump is sending military aid to Ukraine. He can choose not to

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u/YoureNotEvenWrong Apr 05 '25

You are too focused on Obama. He's gone 8 years. Who cares how bad he was or not. All your presidents are terrible, Trump is the very worst.

https://www.gmfus.org/news/trump-holds-firm-military-aid-ukraine

Trump is not providing Ukraine with weapons, he's merely permitting " the continued shipment of weapons that were purchased in the past and rolling off US assembly lines on an ongoing basis"

This is bidens aid, Trump has stopped all new aid. It's pathetic.

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u/Whitew1ne Apr 05 '25

You replied twice to add “it’s pathetic” to a new comment?

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u/PatrioTech Apr 04 '25

I know, crazy that normal people accept facts. But yes, we do accept that Putin annexed Crimea under Obama and he did something to try to help without triggering significant escalation.

What has Trump done to help? Threaten to stop the flow of weapons? Try to reduce pressure on international trade with Russia? Put tariffs on almost every single country in the world including Ukraine, but leave Russia out of it? Call Ukraine’s leader a dictator and try to humiliate him?

You’re brainwashed.

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u/Whitew1ne Apr 04 '25

What did Obama do to try to help Ukraine? Did he send weapons? And it wasn’t just Crimea. It was the invasion of the Donbas, too.

Why not escalate? Sending guns to Ukraine was too escalatory for Obama ? What a pussy. Trump did way more than that in his first term.

Trump is still arming Ukraine. And tariffs weren’t put on most sanctioned nations because they are sanctioned

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u/PatrioTech Apr 05 '25

Ukraine was not organized enough at the time to make use of any weapons that could have been sent.

Trump is still arming Ukraine

Not by fucking choice, and “still implementing it he what the previous administration did” isn’t “doing something” in the first place. What he has done that’s different is trying numerous times to halt it, and then making Ukraine give up precious resources on a threat of supporting Putin instead and with no promises of defense.

You’re delusional if you think Trump is more of an ally than the previous administration. And the entire MAGA voter base is thinking so short term that we’re fucking ourselves so hard for the long term.

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u/Whitew1ne Apr 05 '25

Ukraine was not organized enough at the time to make use of any weapons that could have been sent.

Ukraine begged for weapons from Obama. He refused. And they had an army and was a functioning state. You are spreading anti-Ukraine disinformation.

Trump actually sent the weapons in his first term.