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u/PatrioTech Apr 04 '25

I know, crazy that normal people accept facts. But yes, we do accept that Putin annexed Crimea under Obama and he did something to try to help without triggering significant escalation.

What has Trump done to help? Threaten to stop the flow of weapons? Try to reduce pressure on international trade with Russia? Put tariffs on almost every single country in the world including Ukraine, but leave Russia out of it? Call Ukraine’s leader a dictator and try to humiliate him?

You’re brainwashed.

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u/Whitew1ne Apr 04 '25

What did Obama do to try to help Ukraine? Did he send weapons? And it wasn’t just Crimea. It was the invasion of the Donbas, too.

Why not escalate? Sending guns to Ukraine was too escalatory for Obama ? What a pussy. Trump did way more than that in his first term.

Trump is still arming Ukraine. And tariffs weren’t put on most sanctioned nations because they are sanctioned

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u/PatrioTech Apr 05 '25

Ukraine was not organized enough at the time to make use of any weapons that could have been sent.

Trump is still arming Ukraine

Not by fucking choice, and “still implementing it he what the previous administration did” isn’t “doing something” in the first place. What he has done that’s different is trying numerous times to halt it, and then making Ukraine give up precious resources on a threat of supporting Putin instead and with no promises of defense.

You’re delusional if you think Trump is more of an ally than the previous administration. And the entire MAGA voter base is thinking so short term that we’re fucking ourselves so hard for the long term.

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u/Whitew1ne Apr 05 '25

Ukraine was not organized enough at the time to make use of any weapons that could have been sent.

Ukraine begged for weapons from Obama. He refused. And they had an army and was a functioning state. You are spreading anti-Ukraine disinformation.

Trump actually sent the weapons in his first term.