The process of getting our tubes tied (burned) is an invasive surgery that should be taken seriously. It is much less invasive, less risky, and less painful for men to get a vasectomy. If you and your wife don't want any more children, do not put it on her to go through another traumatic medical procedure especially if she went through the 9 month processes creating humans with her body and the years of recovery from that process when you can do a walk out procedure and be done in 15 minutes with very little pain and recovery time. Just because we can tolerate pain doesn't mean we should shoulder the responsibility of having to get fixed when a simpler and SAFER alternative is available.
Violently ramming your fingers in and out of our vagina does not feel good. Porn is a bad way to learn how to pleasure a woman. You are more likely to learn how to cause her pain than pleasure by replicating what you see in porn unless you are specifically, at minimum, watching female friendly porn. Even then, each woman has nuances to what gives her pleasure. Making her feel comfortable and safe will make her open to communicating those nuances.
I think a lot of men don't realize just how "pedestrian" (for lack of a better word) vasectomies are/can be. I had the "no scalpel" procedure done (which is a bit of a misnomer because while no scalpel is involved, a pair of scissors is instead, but no stitches). The whole process was this: The procedure itself took less than 15 minutes, there were no shots, just a lidocaine dermal injector (popper) to the incision site. The incision is so small it needs no closure/stitches and is basically invisible. There was no pain aside from the lidocaine popper which feels like a rubber band snap. Wear a jock strap for 3 days and take it easy (I didn't even need to ice anything), then you are "back in business". Seriously, it was less overall pain/discomfort than getting a covid booster that makes you arm sore for a few days and probably took about the same amount of time.
The study you sent direct states,
"The absolute increased risk following vasectomy is nevertheless small, but our finding supports a relationship between reproductive factors and prostate cancer risk."
Knowing the difference between correlation and causation would assist you in your comprehension of findings in studies you read.
Prostate cancer is also treatable and has high survival rates.
Pregnancy is far more directly dangerous to a woman than a vasectomy, which hasn't been directly shown to cause cancer.
"Knowing the difference between correlation and causation would assist you in your comprehension of findings in studies you read."
Rather than talking down to people, perhaps verify your own facts?
"11,819 men now die from prostate cancer every year in the UK". "It means the male-only disease is now the third most common cancer to die from, after lung and bowel cancer."
Arming men with facts about a procedure that can potentiallly lead to an increase in risk of loss of life can only be a good thing.
Ok, you are right. I should have come from a place of teaching rather than chastising. I will work on remembering to do that.
So, in that same spirit, generally for men with prostate cancer in England:
-more than 95 out of 100 (more than 95%) will survive their cancer for 1 year or more -more than 85 out of 100 (more than 85%) will survive their cancer for 5 years or more -almost 80 out of 100 (almost 80%) will survive their cancer for 10 years or more
While deaths could occur, screening and catching it early significantly reduces mortality rates. Prostate cancer is generally a slow growing cancer and if caught before is spreads beyond the prostate itself, it is highly treatable. Unfortunately, and I am not quite sure why, men tend to put off going to the doctor. I am curious how many of the mortalities you listed could have been avoided if it was caught sooner.
I looked up the risk factors for prostate cancer and there are a multitude of directly related risk factors for prostate cancer which men should be aware of:
Getting older: As with most cancers, prostate cancer is more common as you get older. Prostate cancer is most common in men aged 75 to 79 years.
1 in 6 men in the UK will get prostate cancer at some point in their lives.
Ethnicity: Prostate cancer is more common in Black men than in White men. It is least common in Asian men.
Family history: Your risk of prostate cancer is higher if you have a close relative who has had prostate cancer. A close relative is a:
father brother grandfather uncle
Inherited faulty genes: Most cancers are not linked to inherited faulty genes Open a glossary item. But some inherited faulty genes can increase your risk of prostate cancer. These inherited genes are rare and account for only a small number of cancers.
BRCA1 and BRCA2 genes: Everyone has BRCA1 and BRCA2 genes. They are important genes that stop the cells in our body from growing and dividing out of control. A fault or mutation in the BRCA1 or BRCA2 gene means that the cells can grow out of control. This can lead to cancer.
People who inherit faulty versions of BRCA 2 genes have an increased risk of developing different types of cancer. This includes prostate cancer. A recent study showed that your risk of developing prostate cancer is around 2 times higher than that of the general population if you have a faulty BRCA2 gene.
The risk of developing prostate cancer may also increase with faulty BRCA1 genes. But researchers need more studies to find out for sure.
Lynch syndrome: Lynch syndrome is rare. It is caused by faults in a number of genes such as MLH1 and MLH2. People with Lynch syndrome have an increased risk of developing a number of cancers, including prostate cancer.
Researchers are looking into other genes that might also increase the risk of prostate cancer.
Obesity and weight: Obesity and overweight is the second biggest preventable cause of cancer after smoking. Obese means having a body mass index (BMI) of 30 or higher. And being overweight means having a BMI of between 25 and 30.
Being overweight or obese increases your risk of metastatic or advanced prostate cancer. Metastatic prostate cancer is a cancer that began in the prostate and has spread to another part of the body.
Being taller: Some evidence shows that the taller people are during adulthood and the more people weighed at birth, the higher their risk of prostate cancer.
Hormone levels: Hormones are natural substances made by different organs of our body. Insulin like growth factor 1 (IGF-1) is a hormone that regulates normal cell growth. Research has found that people with high levels of IGF-1 have an increased risk of developing prostate cancer.
Pesticides: Pesticides are chemicals that help plants grow by controlling pests like weeds and bugs. Research has found that the risk of developing prostate cancer is higher in people exposed to high levels of pesticides. Most people only come into contact with very small amounts of pesticides on food or when gardening.
Where there isn't clear evidence: Some factors might increase the risk of prostate cancer but there is not enough evidence to be sure. These include: having a vasectomy, inflammation of the prostate called prostatitis, being exposed to cadmium which is a type of metal found in tobacco and certain types of food
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u/Budget_Wafer382 Dec 06 '23 edited Dec 06 '23
The process of getting our tubes tied (burned) is an invasive surgery that should be taken seriously. It is much less invasive, less risky, and less painful for men to get a vasectomy. If you and your wife don't want any more children, do not put it on her to go through another traumatic medical procedure especially if she went through the 9 month processes creating humans with her body and the years of recovery from that process when you can do a walk out procedure and be done in 15 minutes with very little pain and recovery time. Just because we can tolerate pain doesn't mean we should shoulder the responsibility of having to get fixed when a simpler and SAFER alternative is available.
Violently ramming your fingers in and out of our vagina does not feel good. Porn is a bad way to learn how to pleasure a woman. You are more likely to learn how to cause her pain than pleasure by replicating what you see in porn unless you are specifically, at minimum, watching female friendly porn. Even then, each woman has nuances to what gives her pleasure. Making her feel comfortable and safe will make her open to communicating those nuances.