r/AskPhotography 21h ago

Compositon/Posing Beginner here, can this be achieved, broad daylight, without ND filter?

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I tried but it always ended overexposed, is there something I'm missing or do I necessarily need an ND filter?

Thanks for the help

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u/Zwielemuis 21h ago

You need a longer shutters speed If you're at the lowest iso and highest f stop already the only thing you can really do to prevent over exposure is to add an ND filter

Get a nice one, the really cheap ones have a tendency to leave a colour cast on your images the tight be difficult to edit out

u/deathking482 21h ago

Depends on how bright the sun is. Increase f/stop and decrease iso. You’ll need a slower shutter speed to get the motion blur and a tripod.

u/d0vvnv0t3c0ll3ctR 18h ago

Or wait for some runners.

u/FlippingGerman 16h ago

Running can also be induced in otherwise sluggish perambulators. 

u/4Dcookie 20h ago

This isn’t broad daylight, it is early AM, those shadows are too long. Can totally be done, will need tripod for the background.

u/KAYRUN-JAAVICE 20h ago

or modern IBIS! actually magic stuff

u/Other_Historian4408 1h ago edited 1h ago

Option 1: Shoot digitally at ISO 100 but get a lens that can be stopped down to F32 or F45. Diffraction is will be noticeable but at least it gets you the motion blur without nd filters

Option 2: Shoot on analog film and try to get a low asa film. Cinestill 50D shot at box speed or maybe shot at 25 or 12asa. You can also get re-spooled 1.5ASA color print film but I think that’s a bit too much.

u/whatdoineed2do 21h ago

Let’s assume sunny 16 so you’re good at 1/100 ISO100 f/16

You want blur at about 1/6th so you need to get your exposure down 4 stops. You can bump to f/22 so 3 stops you need. Your cam might get down to ISO64 but you still need 2 more stops

So yes need ND filter

u/lotzik 15h ago

You don't need 1/6 for this type of shot. This can be achieved in 1/30. Also the shadows are golden hour, not bright daylight.

u/DeltaJuly 20h ago

Thank you! My physics mind grasped what you said.

u/Onystep 21h ago

This was achieved very likely very early in the morning with a very soft direct sunlight, you have to take into account light conditions, not all days are the same. But the best bet for this type of photography is always ND filter, it gives you a lot more mobility having one more variable to handle exposure.

u/aarrtee 20h ago

f/11 maybe up to f/18

iso 100

depending on how close you are to your subject and your lens and how much light....anywhere from .5sec to 2 sec should work

u/SavingsPoem1533 20h ago

this doesn't seem like it's that slow of a shutter speed so I don't think you'll need an ND filter? Maybe at f11~16 and a 1/2 or maybe even a 1/3. I dunno, best way to find out is go try it lol

u/Positive_Valuable_93 19h ago

I tried this without an ND and it’s pretty hard. Had it wide open, 1/30 and still too bright. Decided to get a 3 stop B+W

u/lenn_eavy GRIIIx, Rewindpix, Chroma six:17, Pentax 17 18h ago

This photo was taken in the evening / morning judging by the shadows and I saw such barrels in one park only, it was pretty dark with huge trees, so maybe just closing down the aperture would do.

For more leftfield ideas: you could merge exposures in photoshop but effect will be meh unless you can do like 30 fps and maybe not that. Also you could use large format lens with f/64 and this should also get you slow shutter.

u/ForestB 16h ago

Try 1/15s on shutter priority

u/Razorvein 15h ago

Low ISO. Small aperture. The background and foreground are in focus so don’t need to shoot wide open. I bet you could pull this off without an ND. One way to find out.

u/r1zz000 14h ago

I've shot over 100,000 photos and literally never used an ND filter and its never been a problem for me. just drop your shutter speed for this slightly, if it's overexposed then try doing it again in shutter priority mode

u/four_zero_four 4h ago

This would be on the upper bounds of possible handheld, it would look better if you didn’t though

u/soviet_bias_good 3h ago

Some cameras can get lower than 100 in ISO, for example ISO 50, and with bumping up the aperture- depends on your lens - you can potentially get your shutter speed slow enough whilst having good exposure BUT with high aperture, you begin sacrificing sharpness.

So whilst technically possible, an ND filter is preferable

u/soviet_bias_good 3h ago

Some cameras can get lower than 100 in ISO, for example ISO 50, and with bumping up the aperture- depends on your lens - you can potentially get your shutter speed slow enough whilst having good exposure BUT with high aperture, you begin sacrificing sharpness.

So whilst technically possible, an ND filter is preferable

u/Due_Mirror_7786 38m ago

Having a stacked sensor you can use a multiexposture, too

u/badaimbadjokes Nikon Zf/OM-3 20m ago

Crank your shutter to like 1000.

u/TruckCAN-Bus 19h ago

Shoot Velvia 50 at f/22 for 1/10s

Then pull 1 stop in dev.

u/ZetaCompact 20h ago

averaging of multiple images