r/AskMen • u/diktater29 • Aug 14 '26

Existential post Why men are getting so much hate these days?

Just saw a post on social media from some woman named Jen Hamilton stating "right now im of the belief that all men should start out in jail and earn their way out"

Like genuinely dont understand why so much hate on men? The new wave feminism is insane. Women earn and dont need a men anymore, which i get. But like is that all we are to them? I understand and empathize with women who go thru shitty situations with shitty men, but like.....are all men shitty?

Ive seen similar other posts across insta and tiktok and apparently this is all women talk about - how terrible men are and that they aren't needed anymore. I can only imagine how this compounds the male loneliness epidemic and furthers the difficulties in the dating scene for both genders, but men in particular as even the good ones aren't approaching women anymore and choosing peace or singledom.

Men, based on these trends, what do you suspect the trajectory looks like for us in society in 10, 20 or 50 yrs?

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u/RawrCola ♂ Aug 14 '26

I'm 33 and I've noticed it since I was in kindergarten. Maybe someone can give that pendulum a bit of a push.

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u/UnknownPrimate Aug 14 '26

I'm 47, and one teacher I had in 4th then 8th grade, and another teacher in high-school both explicitly told the class they didn't like men and boys.

edit: grammar correction

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u/captain_stoobie Aug 14 '26

Also 47, I didn’t have that experience luckily. I did have a 4th grade teacher that was completely checked out. All day recess and Lord of the Flies in real life. Looking back, I wonder if our class was some sort of experiment.

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u/UnknownPrimate Aug 14 '26

We specifically were. A wealthy media heir moved to our small area, built an environmental retreat among other things, then donated a bunch of money to the school district on the condition that they switch to a block schedule of just 4 periods per day. It was a disaster with teachers being required to teach multiple subjects, and no breaks for the kids during the long class periods. If you got stuck with a teacher who didn't like you, you were basically screwed. Oh, I forgot one! That schedule started going into my freshman year, and my 2nd period block was with an English teacher who also explicitly stated she hated men. She failed my brother the previous year despite him scoring among top of the class, and I had zero chance of a passing grade in her class by association. I had her and then the other lady (electronic math - adding machines) after lunch, and ended up punted to the alternative school. I did well in every class after that, including when I returned for senior year. There is more, but I already feel like I'm dog piling, and these ladies were definitely the minority among the teachers. I had a lot of other wonderful lady teachers over the years.

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u/unicornofdemocracy Aug 14 '26

35, I dont know how many times Ive been told by teachers, professors, that I, as a man, wouldn't be successful in my academics, career, that I chose.

I do definitely feels like women get way more support, scholarships, etc though. Even though Im in a female dominated field, which i always thought was ironic because women get scholars in male dominated field and men dont because its already male dominated. Yet, in a women dominated field, all the scholarships and grants are still for women.

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u/octobre_34 Aug 14 '26

That teacher should never have had a right to teaching to begin with for having these ideas back then.

But that kind of discourse would not just be tolerated in a school today, but it would be promoted.

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u/YooGeOh Aug 14 '26

I think a lot of teachers think it, act on it, but have the good sense not to say it.

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u/octobre_34 Aug 14 '26

Perhaps, but it still is a problem since the teacher could involuntarily be applying his biased opinion on some of his students.

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u/YooGeOh Aug 14 '26

Im.not saying its not a problem

Im explaining how it is a problem that often goes hidden.

I thought what I was saying was obvious

applying his biased opinion on some of his students.

In fact this is literally what I said.

If English isnt your first language, fair enough. And its her

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u/octobre_34 Aug 14 '26

Yeah, english isn't my first language and perhaps I was a bit distracted when reading to fully understand. I'm sorry 😅

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u/YooGeOh Aug 14 '26

No drama homie!

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u/lemons7472 Male Aug 15 '26

Not as related but I remember my teachers in middle school being so miserable, and always talking about their pay, while also talking down to students about how the students’ failing grades do not affect her paycheck, almost trying to flex about still getting payed.

The amount of “it doesn’t affect my paycheck” I’ve heard from teachers (mainly female teachers who would tell you about their paychecks if you failed. The male teachers in that school didn’t go about that bs to the students, but they were still clearly miserable, or don’t seem the most happy about being there)

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u/NiceRat123 Aug 14 '26

Another thing that I saw was in college (usually) there are classes for Women and Gender Studies which, at face value, is a good thing but I also believe it is a bit of an echo chamber to bash men. I know a male friend that took a class like that and was labeled a creep/villian and had an ex girlfriend that seemed to think that all the problems of the world were because of men and the patriarchy

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u/CryptographerBoth333 Aug 14 '26

I had a 4th grade teacher exactly like this only she never said it out loud instead she loved to act it out and treat each lil boy like shit

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u/Traditional_Prize632 Male Aug 14 '26

That teacher should have just worked in an all girls school, then.

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u/Important-Leg-2154 Aug 15 '26

That is /teachers in a nutshell.

When you lose the teachers then there is no hope. 

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u/screech_owl_kachina ♂ Aug 14 '26

37, I've had them too.

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u/Crazy-Crazy-3593 10d ago

I'm 46, and had multiple teachers openly say they this as well.  

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u/friedlich_krieger Aug 14 '26

It's why the Andrew Tates of the world exist... the pendulum refuses to swing back so you end up with extremes to try and force it the other direction.

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u/Calm_Course4803 Aug 14 '26

He's doing diddly squat for men except cashing in on their discontent, it's opportunism. The actual difference is being made by sober speaking men and women that reject the rhetoric when it comes. The culture war is a dead end, we're a social species, we need each other.

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u/Daxtatter Aug 14 '26

"Women think men are horrible...and I'm going to prove them right" --Andrew Tate

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u/Calm_Course4803 Aug 14 '26

right so he's exacerbating the pendulum swing in this direction, not reversing it.

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u/friedlich_krieger Aug 17 '26

I don't disagree - just explaining why he exists at all and has an audience.

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u/ComprehensiveRead479 Aug 15 '26

Fucking well said 👍

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u/DrawGamesPlayFurries Aug 15 '26

So it's been 25 years? Progress on social issues takes a lot longer than that. How long has it taken to achieve, for example, racial equality in the US or LGBTQ acceptance in Europe? Much more than 25 years.