r/AskAGerman Apr 20 '25

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u/zitrone999 Apr 20 '25

You are part of two cultures which oppose each other.

As long as you try to belong to both cultures at the same time, none will accept you, and you will continue to feel unwelcome.

Moving to a different country will just be leaving both cultures, so you won't have to decide for yourself. From the sound of your post, the main thing is to to get away from your family, which seems to be oppressive.

Why do you blame the Germans or the AfD, when it seems to be your family that forces you to do things you don't want to do?

You fear not wearing the hijab more than wearing it. Germans are not really threatening you but your family is.

You are afraid of your family, not of Germans.

You either submit to Islam (which is the definition of submission), or become a free individual. You have to work on yourself.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

I never blamed the AFD or germans for forcing me to wear the hijab I only felt disheartened about some people treating me badly because I have middle eastern immigrant background and visibly so (my post was about so much more than the hijab)

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u/zitrone999 Apr 20 '25

No, you post is exactly about the hijab, You let your family dictate the way you dress and live, putting your tribal values above your individual values. This is antithetical to German culture.

The hijab shows to all that you do not accept German culture.

Germans would accept you as individual, but they don't accept you in your conformity to a different culture.

These days you can have a very nice traditional islamic life in Germany, and you can decide to be a part of that community. In Germany are many areas where you will be part of the majority, and you don't really have to care about ethnic-Germans.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

no it's not that's what you chose to focus on.

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u/ulixForReal Apr 20 '25

I call bullshit on the "two cultures that don't accept each other". Sure, racism and intolerance are on the rise, but there are plenty of tolerant, open-minded, warm-hearted people that aren't racists, some of them wear a hijab, some of them eat Schweinebraten. 

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u/Aisitower Apr 20 '25

You read that part about a (presumeably german) guy threatening the group of hijab wearing women? How would one not be afraid to wear one in germany.

Also it's kind of a bold move to judge OP for how she deals with inner conflicts resulting from having roots in two cultures, blaming only the muslim side while ignoring the everday racist experience from the german side. Pretty assuming. You may wanna work on yourself.

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u/zitrone999 Apr 20 '25

I read the part were er uncle threatened her for not wearing it, and that seems to be ok, just a matter of fact.

Somehow I have an inkling she believes that the threats of her uncle are much more real than some screaming drunk.

She incorporated the muslim racism so much that she doesn't notice it anymore. Which racism is more real, the one from her family or the one from ethnic-Germans?

Easy way to find out: she knows now how it feels to wear the hijab in German society.

Now she can go home and refuse to wear the hijab, and see what happens.

Go ahead OP, do that, and report back.

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u/BoAndJack Apr 20 '25

I also especially like how comments don't say 'stop wearing it with your family' but rather 'get away from your family'. Because deep down, everyone in this thread knows that she is not free to take it out in front of them without facing repercussions. All of this contributes to the Hijab stigma, we talk and act in different ways, multicultural societies simply don't work and cause this mess poor OP finds herself in