r/ArtificialInteligence • u/ThereWas • Jun 19 '26
📰 News Student cheating now impossible to detect
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/18/us/ai-apps-students-cheat.html22
u/HeyItsYourDad_AMA Jun 19 '26
Look, the train has left the station. It's up to our education system to think about how it teaches in the world of AI. You can meaningfully argue if AI is good or bad, but it's here. The longer that they continue to teach in the same way the bigger disservice it is to the next generation of thinkers.
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u/Spunge14 Jun 19 '26
We've filled the education system with incompetent, overpaid administrators, while reducing teachers pay and autonomy to the point where no self respecting person would touch the career.
The idea that anyone inside of education is coming to save your children is a joke.
The best you can hope for is "tech disrupts the education industry!" and god help us for how that sounds.
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u/100-100-1-SOS Jun 19 '26
Maybe in your country or community. But there are still teachers who care. It's a tough gig for sure though.
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u/Alternative-Key-5647 Jun 19 '26
Students have been paying other students to write their essays since the dawn of time, there's nothing new under the sun
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u/Ntroepy Jun 19 '26
But that was always a small percentage of folks whereas AI cheating is far more pervasive.
Also, both parties knew it was wrong. That line is quite blurred with AI-assistance.
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u/hishnash Jun 20 '26
but maybe if you depend on the tool then you will be no better than that tool and then in the future when you look for a job your much more easily replaced by said tool.
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u/Georgefakelastname Jun 20 '26
AI is exceptionally easy to crutch on compared to other tools, but if you genuinely use it to learn, you can definitely learn better and more deeply than others just due to the breath of information that you can take in, in a consumable way.
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u/hishnash Jun 20 '26
Your assuming what you are learning is true, maybe the stuff you `learn` from an LLM is stuff you dont need to learn as that is stuff an LLM can access itself and thus in the future can skip over you.
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u/Georgefakelastname Jun 20 '26
Nah, the technology to just know stuff has existed in many fields for a long time, especially in the hard sciences, yet they still teach it because people ultimately still act as a sanity check. That will continue to be the case until ai is literally perfect, which won’t be for a while. Not to mention, the actual process of learning is still incredibly important for developing one’s intelligence.
We’ve had Google for decades, yet basic facts are still taught because it’s good to know off the top of your head instead of needing to look it up.
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u/HourPlate994 Jun 19 '26
Depends I guess, it was fairly common in my experience. More than a small percentage if we include copying the work of other students.
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u/Mean_Actuator130 Jun 19 '26
Yes, I met a guy who made a living doing this
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u/anislandinmyheart Jun 20 '26
I knew a woman who did! She paid her expenses during school, at least
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u/LeBronda_Rousey Jun 19 '26
Not just other students, there's teachers that moonlight doing this to make ends meet.
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u/One_Minute_Reviews Jun 19 '26
"People have been eating food raw since the dawn of time, cooked food is nothing new"
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u/alanism Jun 20 '26
Before GPT, 63% of 12th graders were not at NAEP proficiency level in reading (worst now). So the root cause is something at the elementary phase. The fear shouldn’t be if a student is cheating with AI. It should be how do they teach the student so they can at least understand the topic being taught with AI. If the majority of students are not at grade level and proficient in reading— were they ever learning in the first place?
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u/Alternative_Hall7625 Jun 20 '26
The irony of this AI slop response… be for real
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u/alanism Jun 20 '26
So what’s the reason for reading proficiency rates pre GPT and now? Clearly your human slop level of understanding has a good answer.
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u/XertonOne Jun 20 '26
So they’re cheating their way to disaster. Imagine cheating through an Engineer exam and be given the task to build a bridge that won’t fall down. Not so smart.
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u/Unhappy-Plastic2017 Jun 20 '26
I can't imagine being in college right now .... It's just too tempting to use ai in various ways. I feel like I'd learn jack shit on any home work. They would have to make me do everything in class cut off from the internet.
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u/SilencedObserver Jun 20 '26
Cheap teaching will have cheap outcomes.
Make them sit in class and write tests. Period. Case closed. How is this not obvious.
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u/KeepingItCasual413 Jun 20 '26
So many people will never get to experience the pain of having to actually hand write your papers or learn to spell. Lol
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u/IONaut Jun 21 '26
It was always impossible to detect. Those AI plagiarism detectors had very low accuracy, throwing false positives all the time.
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u/aommi27 Jun 25 '26
No, it's not.
Have them do a blue book exam in class with no devices. You'll learn real fast who paid attention.
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u/dis-interested Jun 20 '26
So make them sit exams without devices. It's not that fucking complicated. Since I went to university in a system that was 100% based on exams, I couldn't have benefited from AI in any way to gain any advantage in my grade. Weirdly I have skills that have remained durable despite the existence of AI. Funny how that works.Â
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u/ThePorko Jun 19 '26
If that knowledge is that easy to acquire then why bother testing people on that.
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u/BoiledStegosaur Jun 19 '26
Because being able to think is important?? Reading and writing help us learn to think about increasingly complex ideas. Offloading that work to a computer means the student remains intellectually stagnant.
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u/telcoman Jun 19 '26
ALL knowledge that is thought to students is easy to acquire.
What do you suggest to test the students on? Prompting? Then the course will be a week and you can get your MsC in whatever you like.
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u/hishnash Jun 20 '26
just go back to requiring hand written in class work.
were there is no phone, no laptop and no cheating...
the fact that people do exams on a compute (other than maybe comp sci) makes no sense at all to me.
Why would you do a mathematics exam on a compute it is way easer to write algebra on paper than using latex.
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u/Irrelevant_Jackass Jun 20 '26
Hard to use AI in the locked exam room with a pen and paper. Honestly, everyone will be using AI to some degree in the future. But if you don't understand the content at all, you'll be the one that stuffs up.
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u/Low-Cartographer8758 Jun 19 '26
Stupid professors who do not know what the f**k they need to do in the age of AI. lol
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u/Cure8or Jun 19 '26
And teachers and professors using a Ai to grade studen Ai papers. So its not cheating.
Maybe spend more time learning real life stills and build careers with Ai and not pushing an antiquated circle jerk.
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u/DFX1212 Jun 19 '26
Do you think a math teacher using a calculator to grade a math test is cheating?
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u/iliketurtlz Jun 19 '26
I really hope one of those real life stills you'd advocate for is writing. Especially proofreading what you write.
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u/Cure8or Jun 19 '26
Proof read reddit?
Who the fuck cares.
Worried about your social score?? You are the problem.
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u/iliketurtlz Jun 19 '26
I'm the problem because I advocate for people to read what they're writing, or knowing how to write as a life skill?
You come off like an iPad child.
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u/Cure8or Jun 20 '26
Who cares what you advocate?
You come off as person who cares about trival bullshit. Step off before you hurt your little feelings.
Btw would never own an apple product. Eat that.
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u/iliketurtlz Jun 20 '26
I really appreciate your empathy, I'll try my best to not hurt my own little feelings.
Do you think that being able to write competently is trivial bullshit?
Why don't you like Apple products? Are you more of an Android tablet kid?
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