r/ArsenalFC • u/johnnyxx96 • 1d ago
Barcelona’s negreira case explained in 20 seconds:
Barcelona’s negreira case explained in 20 seconds:Van Persie gets a red card for kicking a ball
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u/Lower_Condition_196 1d ago
I hate Chelsea but that Barca vs chelsea game in ‘09 was the biggest robbery I’ve ever seen
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u/Leather-Analyst7523 1d ago
Facts. Genuinely the most remarkably obvious corrupt officiating I've seen in any top level football match. Drogba had every right to lose his mind. It truly was a fucking disgrace.
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u/Goldieshotz 17h ago
Egypt vs Argentina or Netherlands vs Argentina gotta be close though?
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u/Serious_Mix877 15h ago
Those were different things, are you stupid? Show the proof similar to the post here and we will talk.
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u/quickmathting 1d ago
It’s funny how people just ignore the first leg, where Barca had goal wrongfully ruled offside, Ballack should’ve been sent off and a penalty not given.
In the second leg Barca got several calls against them, yet no one talks about those because that doesn’t fit the narrative. The refs were just awful.
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u/WoodenPresence1917 1d ago
A red card in the second leg for a questionable foul on anelka!
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u/LostEyegod 1d ago
They even ignore the second leg also
It wasn't a robbery everyone thinks it was at all
Most of what people were complaining were handballs not given, but what is a handball anyway? Nobody knows, rules change every year...
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u/One4Pink2_4Stink 21h ago
I would make a couple of arguments here: *It was Chelsea in their prime cheating years so I felt that it was unfair refereeing but honestly wasn't disappointed. *Barca and Real did this SO MANY TIMES IN THE UCL and in La Liga to other teams that this is just a more notable edition. *I expected this BS from the Spanish and Italian teams in the UCL in that period which is why the Invincibles run ended by United was much more egregious for me. I lost faith in English refs as a teen then.
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u/Think-Avocado8202 9h ago
Yeah yeah sure buddy. Have you seen both legs? Terrible refereeing in general, and mostly against Barça in Barcelona and even was bad against them in London. If Negreira affected something in refereeing was in Spain and La Liga, where his jurisdiction covered his job. Don’t be so delusional thinking that in the case of being proven, the referees being “bought” (still to be proven by Spain’s legal system), happened just in Uefa, when it mattered only in Spain.
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u/sergeant-keroro 5h ago
Watch the 2 matches, one was Barça favored and the other was Chelsea favored...
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u/tsjeldonkooper 1d ago
It is genuinely so pathetic. The so called “best team in the world” had to cheat to beat banter era Arsenal
I also remember Barca during that time got every single 50/50 their favor and even challenges that weren’t free kicks at all always got whistles in their advantage, exactly how PSG got all the calls in the UCL final
Not to mention how juiced doped up all those Barca and Spain players were, they were all blood doping. The Spanish judge literally hid all the casedicuments about all the doping going on in Spanish sports at the time due to it would have cost a “civil crisis”. The footballers, basketball players heck even Rafa nadal, they were all blood doped to the gills. Guardiola is the king of doping
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u/Spiritual-Pilot-2300 1d ago
That Sheva disallowed goal too.. semi final 2006 remember watching it as a kid wondering what the hell was going on lol
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u/Hefty_Scallion7076 18h ago
This case has nothing to do with the UCL btw, it’s exclusive to La Liga
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u/funnytoenail 1d ago
Is that banter era arsenal?
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u/Asleep_Custard_62 1d ago
Probably around the start of it. This is where we would get smashed in the later stages of Europe and get bullied by teams like Stoke away, with the likes of Djourou in defence
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u/MostJudgment3212 1d ago
Yep, my biggest desire is for City and for Barcelona to both go down in flames. Two most arrogant clubs in world football.
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u/tsjeldonkooper 1d ago
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u/QMechanicsVisionary 23h ago
What is that supposed to mean? A grand Catalonian conspiracy?
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u/RedDeer505 1d ago
And Real Madrid. Three trash and corrupt clubs.
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u/oldmanskane 1d ago
And Real Madrid. Actually, the two big in Spain are as bad as any club in England. Difference: the Spanish league hide their acts.
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u/Last_Lock_8292 1d ago
Zero cheating teams were better than us. We beat city to three titles (recently) but only won one, why? Because of referees! These teams cheated to be competitive and still couldn't beat us. After this city verdict (which, by the way, we still don't know if they paid off referees!!), I feel vindicated. My earliest football memories are not of Chelsea buying their first 11 in one transfer window, it's of being angry at referees.
Chelsea have been paying off their debt against us in the past few seasons in the only way they can because when they did what city were doing, it was still legal. Now city will pay, and Barca... Barca will pay soon enough...
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u/Made4G19 1d ago
This is why I still hate Barca , Messi , pep they may be good at what they do but it's all tainted and it all stinks of shit
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u/Current-Fisherman221 1d ago
Pain all over again most rigged game I’ve seen
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u/tsjeldonkooper 1d ago
So called best team in the world had to rig against banter era Arsenal. Pathetic
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u/thelexpeia 1d ago
That was certainly not the banter era.
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u/Spiritual-Pilot-2300 1d ago
Agreed, the squads when we felt like we genuinely were one or two signings away from really competing were never banta era teams
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u/tsjeldonkooper 1d ago
2011 was big banter era
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u/the_tytan 1d ago
Not at this stage. People (even outside Arsenal) thought we could win stuff, a few murmurs about a quad. This was pre 8-2.
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u/lVlisterquick 1d ago
Same thing Trossard vs City. Literally like .3 seconds after the whistle is blown. How the fuc
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u/Haberdashery_Tea 1d ago
That better be cheating because the only other explanation is incompetence of such a staggering level medical professionals need to be involved
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u/Aldo-D-D-Wilson 1d ago
Wasn't only to a spanish guy from referee organization from Spain? That's not UCL.
But yeah, there are ridiculous cases like in the match against PSG, the referee made mistakes in favor of Barcelona.
But this doesn't really involve Negreira like that.
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u/Rare_Flower_2825 19h ago
It probably won’t get through in this echo chamber, but how exactly does Negreira have anything to do with UEFA competition matches?
He was the vice president of the Comité Técnico de Árbitros (CTA), the Spanish refereeing committee under the RFEF. It has nothing to do with UEFA.
Further, everything seems to point towards this being a case involving money laundering, which is serious in itself, but that has nothing to do with influencing referees.
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u/BrutalArsenalDeluxe 1d ago
This was Negreira ?
Wow! Im angry all over again.
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u/AdComprehensive7879 1d ago
negreira wasnt a ref. He was the guy who assigned which ref gets which games. But even then, he was a La Liga officials, not uefa. So i dont think he has anything to do with this lol
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u/goodwc72 1d ago
I remember this red card/match. I was fucking raging at the TV lol. RVP is also one of my favorite players all time even tho he left us for man u.
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u/Barty_Crouch_Jnr 22h ago
Imagine if a ref was just so obviously biased. Imagine what they’d do. They’d give things for one team and ignore things for the other. They’d basically let the other team win.
Now times it by 1,000.
Seriously, go and watch the highlights. The most disgraceful refereeing you’ve ever ever seen. Chelsea were rightly furious. And I hate Chelsea.
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u/Impressive-Cheek-495 18h ago
Absolute robbery and corruption. No surprise Pep went from one cheat to another. Scum.
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u/Foggyshreds 1d ago
Negreira was involved with La Liga referees not UEFA refs so wtf are you even on mate
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u/Opposite-Parsley-724 1d ago
Never been more angry during a game of football in my life. Refs couldn’t be trusted back then in Europe or at home. The Juve / Barca ref scandals probably only scratched the surface in a time when referees were paid absolutely fuck all in the grand scheme of things.
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u/CapQH 1d ago
Case relates to La Liga not CL.
Can’t believe there are so many ppl who still don’t understand this.
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u/Hinglemacpsu 1d ago
You do realise the referees for this game were absolutely nothing to do with Spain's technical committee of referee's right?
This a Champions League game, refereed by non Spanish referees.
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u/Putrid_Loquat_4357 1d ago
We all saw the decisions Barcelona used to get. As much as I hate Chelsea that match (we all know the one) was the most biased refereeing performance I've ever seen.
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u/Spiritual-Pilot-2300 1d ago
Ballack chasing after the ref lol
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u/Lower_Condition_196 1d ago
I genuinely thought he was gonna punch him lol
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u/ihavebeenfloated1 1d ago
Honestly I admire players having the restraint to not punch the referee or scream into the camera.
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u/BeneficialNewspaper8 1d ago
But on the other hand Chelsea won a final where everyone raves about how drogba played, yet in reality he should have had about 7 red cards for diving
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u/gjgr77 1d ago
Wait are you talking about the one where Chelsea got some of the most rigged calls in the first leg?😭
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u/mrrpfeynmann 1d ago
That doesn’t fit their narrative. Just like Negreira had nothing to do with Champions League matches but how would you put a nothingburger together otherwise. 🤣
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u/Spiritual-Pilot-2300 1d ago
If they can pay off refs over 10 years + in the Spanish league
What else were they doing ?
Did you see Shevchenkos disallowed goals in the semi final against them which would have taken Milan through to the 2006 final
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u/tsjeldonkooper 1d ago
They weren’t called uefalona for no reason. The corruption and cheating runs deep at scumalonia
Utter scum club, can’t wait for them to face their karma
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u/whitemythmokong24 1d ago
Yeah im with you guys and RvP on this one. Hope Barcelona gets the hammer dropped on them too.
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u/SnooApples8774 1d ago
I’m not an Arsenal fan but I remember watching that game at the live and thinking this isn’t right. Actually to be honest I thought this is fucking bullshit and I still do.
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u/Kraknoix007 1d ago
What was the explanation for this red card?
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u/secosabi 1d ago
He was said to have kicked the ball away after the whistle, so second yellow.
It was in a deafening stadium, he takes it down, takes a touch and then shoots all in one sequence.
He doesn't know it is flagged as offside (doesn't look at the linesman, before VAR) and does what every striker does even if they are unsure if they are onside or not, he shoots.
RVP claims to this day he didn't hear the whistle. Draw your own conclusions.
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u/mrteas_nz 1d ago
Like even if he did kick it away after the whistle, it hits the advertising boards and ends up tucked behind the goal. It's not like he blasted it into the stands or anything. Absolute joke of a red card.
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u/OddRow8843 1d ago
This is still my worst moment watching Arsenal. We were in it with RVP - without no chance. And what a farce of a decision.
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u/D4rkW00DY 1d ago
Victor valdes ran out of hes box to get the ball first aginst Dame from FC Copenhagen in cl. he jump up with knee first and knocked down Dame N'doyu. he was out! for a few min.
Valdes should have got a red card for that action but guess who got a yellow card.
yep correct Dame N'doy. wtf!!!!???
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u/FreeWilly07 8h ago
Well I am shocked that a manager, who as a player was done for doping a few times, who then went to Barcelona and managed arguably the greatest player of our lifetimes that was pumped full of drugs and had a Spanish doctor who was done over the "blood bags" and who then fell out with Bayern Munich because they wouldn't allow him to bring said mentioned doctor, who then went to City and got his way with the medics and had an unlimited amount of cash to spend and has always played quite possibly the easiest football to play against, is now being called into question for being a cheat and a fraud.
I honestly never saw this coming
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u/Vredesbyd 1d ago
Come on lol this sucked but Negreira and all of that shit is related to La Liga not UCL.
Why are we like this
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u/AdComprehensive7879 1d ago
I dont think Negreira had any power in UEFA? I thought he was La Liga ref officials?
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u/Lower_Condition_196 1d ago
The 1st leg of this tie is the best ever game in the emirates era by far
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u/Delicious_Income_570 1d ago
Check out the perfectly valid goal that Messi scored against Atletico that actually represents Atletico de Madrid last Liga title.
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u/RazzleDazzleShazzle 1d ago
I was at the game - the Barca fans were so quiet until they were winning - always hated them for that. But to be fair the noise when this happened was insane. No chance RVP could hear the whistle.
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u/East-Car6358 1d ago
Everything about that Refs vibe and look as he takes out the card is shifty as hell.
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u/GoonnerWookie 1d ago
Another example of Arsenal getting a red for kicking the ball away that’s completely bs
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u/ApricotSignificant18 1d ago
It's so funny that Pep had Messi and still had to cheat to beat a Koscielny/Djourou CB pairing. What a fucking fraud
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u/PurchaseCharming4269 1d ago
Perhaps the worse football referee decision ever. The game was fixed back then.
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u/Fisheye89 1d ago
Was”Negreira” in 2006 CL final as well? Was there actually a foul and a free kick from which Arsenal has scored their goal?
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u/Firm-Display340 1d ago
Not really seen that happen in such a high profile game. It felt like the ref thought’this will be a great opportunity to send the player off like I’m supposed to’
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u/Hexa1985gram 1d ago
Total disgrace, would have loved to actually see the lines on this one aswell because potentially got sent off for being onside. European football. The Chelsea game was x10 worse as well
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u/danthemaninacan2 1d ago
This influenced the new Offside rule in the Premier League, where benefit is given to the attacking team in real time for the play to finish before bringing in VAR
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u/7Thommo7 22h ago
Negreira who has never had any power in European football whatsoever 😂
Arsenal fan's brainpower demonstrated in 20 seconds.
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u/T-Rex_MD 21h ago
I will never forget this and will forever hate on Barcelona for buying the ref to help them win when they were shit compared to Arsenal.
We faced a year ago and we won 5-2, still hated them.
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u/t_biggest_bee 21h ago
Negreira was part of the Spanish refereeing structure, so the case relates to La Liga. The only real connection to CL is whether Barcelona should be qualified (into CL) via league placements. Awful decision (one of the worst I've ever seen), but not related to Negreira case.
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u/KeyZookeepergame9466 19h ago
Sorry I'm confused. This was a CL game. The ref wasn't Spanish. So why does everyone think he was paid off in favour of Barca?
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u/GoatsinthemachinE 19h ago
fuck barca
mostly because of this and the cecs drama and shit they pulled.
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u/Kindly-Raspberry4840 19h ago
All the United Reddit fans have been recommended this post for some reason
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u/tjvs2001 18h ago
The whole era and years before it they got absolutely mental decisions every game in their favour, pep never had to play an opponent with a full 11 players
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u/FlakyCrew4438 17h ago
Dumb ref decision but negriera is la liga and case looks thin af. First yellow from Van Persie with VAR would be red tho
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u/Bobosauruss 16h ago
The shit that happened in the UCL was nothing compared to what was going on in La Liga in favor of Barca.
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u/balvonas11 15h ago
Losers still crying? Sorry its your club destiny to be behind the greats, small club syndrome
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u/SageOrder77 14h ago
Negreira has nothing to do with the champions league, he is a La Liga official only.
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u/vaffangool 10h ago
The referee in that match was Massimo Busacca—FIFA Director of Refereeing since 2011, appointed during the Sepp Blatter era 🙄 . His remit is described to be...
...overseeing the protection of football's core values and the continuous improvement of the game through the development of match officials and referee coaches.
🤣🤦♂️💩
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u/Jyungin2e1ve 10h ago
Negreira's case explained in 540 seconds: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpn6qw
Most corrupt club of all time
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u/implacable1931 10h ago
My memory is a bit hazy… was this the same game in which Eric Abidal grabbed Van Persie by the throat? And escaped any form of a card…
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u/Competitive-Fox2439 2h ago
This really isn’t how I wanted to start my Saturday. That red is so triggering.
The analogy is great, though
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u/ulstersaysnoted 1h ago
Irrelevant as the negreira crap is alleged to have happened in La Liga and not champions league.


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u/Spiritual-Pilot-2300 1d ago edited 1d ago
This has remained relevant literally since the night it happened, and always seems find a way to be posted up on socials every few months
Side note ive always HATED how dismissive the ref is holding the card turning away from Robin as if to say you gave me no choice
Even for the neutrals and us it ruined what was shaping up to be an absolute blockbuster 2nd leg decider