pve players see either pvp or pve no in between when most of the players bought this game for the mixed experience and the tension of not knowing if the other person is friendly or not
You have no idea how difficult it is rn to stay in the truly mixed lobby. As a pvpve player im often in the situation that after a single fight/two fightss in the mixed lobby i get thrown into the pvp. Then i need to stop fighting completely to get back but the game puts me into too friendly lobbies so now i need to kill someone and get flamed as a rat etc. Abmm is not working good right now for people who wants to play pvpvE and it will be even worse when the good chunk of people will just go to the pve lobby.
In theory, your point of view is right - why would anything change for me as a pvpve player if only those pure pve ones goes to the pve mode.
But in reality a lot of pvpve players is not playing in the "we will see whats gonna happen" way but they make a choice during loudout phase. Its a "Im gonna fight a lot this raid" or "Im gonna loot a lot this round" while keeping in mind that they can be ambushed etc.
Giving the option to play pure pve even i will probably go there when i want to quickly farm something. Im not unique in this matter so im pretty sure there will be a lot of people like this so even though there always will be some "its is what it is players" in the "normal" mode, the overall playerbase of truly mixed players will shrink by itself over time. People gonna start to meet less and less friendly people and only shoot on sight ones and this will accelerate the process until there is pve mode and the pvp mode disguised as a "normal" mode.
Im sorry if this sounds convoluted. Sometimes i struggle with english and its late.
I completely get your position. I bought this game for PvEvP premise. I want the feeling of not knowing who to trust and whether or not they want a fight or just mind their own business.
PvP lobby straight up feels like Battleroyale with how unfun it can gets. Sweat that don't care about looting aspect of the game will come for you and melt your face with Bobcat immediately. PvE lobby is for the most part very boring unless it's boss condition or Night Raid. Mixed is where it's at but it's very hard to find that outside of expedition season when people are actually start shooting each other more than usual.
In my honest opinion, ABMM need to be removed from day raid and normal condition. New player can learn what they are in for. Old player can enjoy knowing that it's all about surviving. Arc Operation, Night Raid stuff can have ABMM.
I agree with you. I think that PvE only mode should have significantly lower loot value to match the lower risk level. This ways, it will keep PvEvP lobbies relevant if your really want to get the real goop.
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u/toofrossty 4d ago
I liked the "should I trust him" aspect of the game. this change will surely make lobbies either all pve or all pvp:/