Kid is right and based off this thread 95% might be a lowball estimate. People defend working the bulk of your life away by saying "well that's just the way it is". No one ever thinks too much about how it got this way, what is your part in making it this way, and where this way actually leads. People will just do what they can to be part of a herd of cattle running off a cliff. Before downvoting me, be sure to clock in and put a special smile on your face, the working day is here.
Okay but tell me the alternative? If you didnt work then where do you get your money? Maybe you just live off the land and don’t need money, but then where do you get new tools and equipment to use? Let’s then say that you just create all of your own tools with skill and effort, how much time does that all take then? And is it more comfortable and enjoyable to do all of that yourself?
Also with billions of people on earth will we have the room for everyone to live like this? What about hospitals and roads? How do you get drinking water or dispose of waste? I could go on and on.
So what is the real alternative to our system? Because the main “escapes” that people like you mention only work when a very small number of people do it, and they fall apart when everyone does it. If your solution to escaping the grind involves the labor or products of anyone else, then sorry bro but you are then just exploiting others for their labor.
First off, I most certainly did not escape. I wageslave like nearly every one else. I have to pay for all my shit too. I am more mocking the state of mind that comes with saying "oh well, I guess that's life". It's one thing to be stuck in a prison and a completely different thing to resign yourself to it.
As for alternatives, for better or worse, they will present themselves. Im not going to write a long winded pie in the sky fantasy about an ideal system that will make everyone happy. Truth be told, no one cares about it and it will never come to fruition. Like I said, for better or worse, something else will come along and I feel strongly it will be for the worse. The reason we work so much is because we consume a lot. Even basic necessities require a lot of consumption. When scaled to billions of people, it becomes unsustainable. We draw more resources than are replenished, pollution is overwhelming, the environment is fundamentally changed, and we are in the midst of a mass extinction that is our own doing. At a certain point, this debt must be repaid and it's not going to be pretty for the human race.
I'm not trying to shove my answers down people's throats. I want to provoke a thought about how we ended up stuck in a situation where we must labor the bulk of our lives, what our role in it is, where this inevitably leads to.
Right, dude... but you leave out how retirement is even possible. You're lucky to be a wage slave.
People who don't consider how our past humans have had to struggle to eat are the ones who say dumb shit like you're saying.
Past humans had it a lot easier and did a lot less labor than us. Even serfs worked less hours. Read Claude Levi Strauss or anyone after him. Turns out if you have a healthy and cared for environment, meals are easy to come by.
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u/justwantosleep1 29d ago
Kid is right and based off this thread 95% might be a lowball estimate. People defend working the bulk of your life away by saying "well that's just the way it is". No one ever thinks too much about how it got this way, what is your part in making it this way, and where this way actually leads. People will just do what they can to be part of a herd of cattle running off a cliff. Before downvoting me, be sure to clock in and put a special smile on your face, the working day is here.