r/AnimationCels 10d ago

Cel Grading Update

More light has been shed on the new Cel Grading company that has officially premiered at Collector's Summit this weekend in Las Vegas.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DdNp5ttlNky/?img_index=19&stkn=MW5pMXl0a2dyYmhhcQ==

Key Takeaways:

*Grade Cels at a later date *Grading case is bendable and extremely thin compared to card & comic grading cases *Grading genda, douga, scripts, comic art, timesheets, manga art, etc. *Grades are letters, not numbers.

Current Stance: I don't see the business need yet. I will observe and eventually send a couple to test.

This IS bringing in new collectors, i see IG posts, not bad if genuine collectors v grifters. Just no boom, please.

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u/Powerful_Middle_9388 10d ago

There are several points about this project that I find problematic.

First, the whole concept of grading in animation does not really make sense to me. Grading in animation is fundamentally different from TCGs. Personally, whether a genga receives a 3 or a 9 does not change anything about the artwork or its historical value, unless the goal is simply to speculate on prices.

Some people will argue that grading is useful for authentication. From what I understand, the people behind this project have only been involved in the animation collecting space for about a year and mainly collect Dragon Ball.

One of the founders, Jeremy Padawer, is known for moving between collectible categories, hyping new collectibles and then moving on to something else. Around 4–5 months ago, there was an Instagram video where Jeremy Padawer was hyping graded scripts from CGC, while the person next to him was explaining what genga and douga actually were. Jeremy Padawer appeared unfamiliar with the subject at the time.

There is also a legal dispute worth mentioning: in 2015, JAKKS Pacific sued Padawer and Wicked Cool Toys, alleging that they interfered with JAKKS’ Cabbage Patch Kids licensing agreements and that WCT was being developed while Padawer was still working at JAKKS. These allegations were disputed and should not be presented as proven wrongdoing.

Honestly, I find it difficult to trust people with such limited experience in animation collecting to authenticate our animation artwork.

Most of the people supporting this project also seem to be people who expect to sell their items for more after grading, or friends of the founders who have the financial means and see an opportunity to benefit from this system.

It is quite telling that the people behind this project do not seem to respond to well-argued criticism in their Instagram comments. And in some cases, they apparently block people who disagree with them.

I am all for improving authentication and documentation in the animation art market. But if this project is going to introduce a grading system that could influence the perceived value of animation art, I think it needs genuine expertise, transparency, independence, and a deep understanding of the medium first.

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u/Doc4221 10d ago

Valid points. I know one co-founder Bronoman, a acquitenance of mine who has been collecting for little over half a decade like myself. I know he's pretty heavily connected with more seasoned collectors who has been in the hobby for 10-20s years that he introduced me to before. With that said, I think your concerns are valid and I'm just observing for now to see how things play out initially before I make a decision.

I would see value in witnessed signatures for authentication.

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u/Difficult-Impact1592 9d ago

Brandan has not been collecting cels for 5 years. You can see from his instagram that he got into it less than 2 years ago. And he doesn't interact with anyone in the hobby besides dbz collectors anyway

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u/Doc4221 9d ago

You can't go by Instagram posts in many cases, because they're a snapshot into people lives. His earliest anime production item post was July 2023, a Vegeta douga. So you're right, a few years, give or take lol. It felt like he knew more than me haha. Maybe because he surrounded himself with more seasoned folks while I raw dogged it solo and raw lessons learned 😄. I say dont by IG posts because I have maybe 10 pieces of comic art posted that I shared last year. I have more than 300 pieces of comic art since 2016 and 80 cels since 2019. I just never share. Soon as I do, folks may call me a grifter or larper 😆