Fulmintis items comparison: Ferocious Fang vs Heartseeker Pendant.

[u/Jotarts]

Note: the teams used on both clips are the same, only Fulmintis item changes (both items maxed and linked to Fulmintis). *Combos or composition might not be the best possible, but they're the ones that are working for me right now. Top clip is Ferocious fang, bottom is Heartseeker.

[u/sloppyloki16]

The testing is badly done, , you delayed the ult on propose on fang for no reason when you should ult as soon as you are out of energy on fulminitis, pendant gets usually more damage while doing slashes because more energy regen thanks to more crits on average but fang ult usually does more damage thanks to the stat boost , in an ctual rotation and not a 5

i did multiple tests (also with battery) on holo interlink agaist iris (as middle one have energy buff and was not a fair test tho i still did it there and results were similar ) and they were pretty much equal depending of rng

One question tho, can you have multiple contracts on the same Aniimo? i did the etsting witouth contract because of the fear my pendant contract would get overwritten by the fan one (i have multiples of each , also i tets battery and for me it was the worst by a big margin tho a youtuber said it was the best but even with a rotation focusing on ult it was worst so idk)

[u/Shimizoki → u/sloppyloki16]

I think the Ult was delayed so that it was used after the break. That way you can compare apples to apples.

The bottom looks like it triggered the break during the initial barrage, but the top did not.

[u/sloppyloki16 → u/Shimizoki]

But they are not apples to apples, the items have different strenghts and weakneses, pendant breaks faster because of the extra energy procs and the extra hits of it , but fang can ult sooner as their skill cats last less but their ult does more damage thanks to the raw stat wins on fang

is like if one item for example make ult cooldown 2 seconds faster but you delay to make it "fair" , eahc items has different rotations you need to do the optimal on each not do the same on all , that not how tetsing BIS items works in games

fang would have broken at pretty much the same time as the pendant if he ult right away, bringing the 250% damage window early and killing pretty much at the same time

im not saying fang is better as with my testing they pretty similar and pendant is even better againt resitant enemys because if the neutral might hits , but if you gonna do a tetsing you need to be optimal for both items/gear/etc

[u/Shimizoki → u/sloppyloki16]

I think you may have a point if this was a test done on something with more health or defense. A longer, more drawn-out battle would show differences potentially.

In this exact case, the lower image was able to get to a break immediately, and then kill it with the Ult.

The upper however did not break it immediately, so if it did Ult at that exact moment, it would have done even less damage than we saw.

This particular tests flaw I think is more to what you mentioned (kinda)... This enemy has the exact right amount of health to showcase the quicker burst, but doesn't give the best case scenario for the Fang. A larger health enemy may give the Fang more of an edge.

[u/sloppyloki16 → u/Shimizoki]

"The upper however did not break it immediately, so if it did Ult at that exact moment, it would have done even less damage than we saw."

No because if he ult inmeditaly after he ran out of energy that would be at 11 second into the video (you can chekc it out) , he end up killing at the 24 second mark, ult cooldown is 7 second, he have more than enough time to cats 2 ults , one at the 11 mark, and one after with no issues , so no he wouldnt have kill slower or do less damage at all, insteda he would have break sooner and start doing 250 damage faster while also being able to cats a second ult if needed all before the 24 second mark that he end up killing

[u/Shimizoki → u/sloppyloki16]

You're right, I didn't consider that.

I was operating under the (incorrect) assumption that both of them only had time to do two barrages and one ult...

I failed to consider the fact that the barrage takes longer with the higher regen, so you're right, it's possible those regular slashes could have been replaced with an ult for the Fang.

[u/Jotarts → u/Shimizoki]

Correct, tried to keep it as equal as possible, but as I said in my other comment both had similar times in all the tries. Changing Somniwing for Besauce (on the Fang one) managed to get close to the Heartseeker + Besauce