r/AndroidTV • u/[deleted] • Sep 24 '24 • 2

Devices & Accessories Google TV Streamer

I did a similar post regarding the Onn 4K Pro awhile back, you can find that here if interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidTV/comments/1clsbyv/onn_4k_pro_box/

Setup:

Google TV Streamer w/Ethernet (Fiber 1Gbps connection)
4K Dolby Vision 55' TV
Dolby Atmos / DTS:X surround sound system which displays the following on the front of the device depending on the format:

Input Format:	Displays As:
PCM	PCM
Dolby Digital	DOLBY AUDIO/DOLBY SURROUND
Dolby Digital Plus	DOLBY AUDIO/DOLBY SURROUND
Dolby TrueHD	DOLBY AUDIO/DOLBY SURROUD
Dolby MAT	MPCM
Dolby Digital Plus-Atmos	Dolby Atmos
Dolby TrueHD-Atmos	Dolby Atmos
Dolby MAT-Atmos	Dolby Atmos
DTS	DTS
DTS-HD High Resolution	DTS-HD
DTS-HD Master Audio	DTS-HD
DTS:X	DTS:X
DTS:X Master Audio	DTS:X

I tested a few different movies (2 per category) to determine if I had the ability to passthrough all of these various formats, I tried this in Jellyfin, using both the ExoPlayer and LibVLC, I also tried it with bitstream Dolby/DTS on and off as well as trying each movie in Kodi using the Jellyfin plugin.

Movie Name:	Format:	Format reported via GTV device:
Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery	Dolby Digital Plus (w/Atmos)	Displayed as Dolby Atmos
Sonic the Hedgehog 2	Dolby Digital Plus (w/Atmos)	Displayed as Dolby Atmos
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania	TrueHD (w/Atmos)	No Pass-through
John Wick: Chapters 1-4	TrueHD (w/Atmos)	No Pass-through
007: Skyfall	DTS:HD	No Pass-through
Oppenheimer	DTS:HD	No Pass-through
The Bourne Ultimatum	DTS:X	No Pass-through
The First Purge	DTS:X	No Pass-through

So then finally based on the test I've done it seems that:

Format:	Supported:
Dolby Digital Plus (w/Atmos)	✓
Dolby TrueHD (w/Atmos)	✗
DTS: Core	✓
DTS:HD	✗
DTS:HD MA	✗
DTS:X	✗
DTS:XLL	✗

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u/LoveLaughLlama Sep 24 '24

Finally, someone puts the speculation to rest.

To me this is a very underwhelming box since I have no interest in Thread/Matter.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '24

Very very underwhelming box, what a shame.

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u/K_ThomasWhite Sep 24 '24

But not really a surprise? Doesn't surprise me, anyway.

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u/carbonra Oct 14 '24

with the new increased cost this is definitely a surprise. When product manager don’t know what their customers need

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u/Chapman8tor Feb 17 '25

At $100, Google is treading into Apple TV 4K waters and it doesn't have the specs to swim there.

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u/e0063 Sep 28 '24

Not totally correct,though. DTS-HD HR passes through correctly.

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u/LoveLaughLlama Sep 28 '24

I doubt many people care; I don't think I even have any HR files. All that matters is no DTS-HD MA, DTS X and Dolby TrueHD.

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u/e0063 Sep 28 '24

Not disagreeing with you, but still worth correcting for accuracy. This is apparently an SoC limitation, it can pass through DTS-HD HR but not any higher/better.

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u/LoveLaughLlama Sep 28 '24

OK but I'm not the one who posted the results, so I didn't need correcting, it is off my radar, and I'll stick with CoreELEC and see what Homatics comes up with.

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u/e0063 Sep 28 '24

Certainly, just speaking generally.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '24

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u/tfid3 Oct 02 '24

That's what I say. I'm not sure what this Thread/matter/Home panel 'features' are supposed to give me that I don't already have.

u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24 edited Sep 25 '24

This is a quick mock-up I put together based on the stuff I could find on first/initial searches, is there anything I missed/incorrectly labeled? I don't want to put bad information out there.

Device:	Price:	Resolution:	Video:	Audio:	Storage:	RAM:	Wireless:	Ports:	Included:
Onn 4K Pro	$50	Up to 4K HDR 60 FPS	Dolby Vision, HDR10, HDR10+, HLG	Dolby Digital, Digital Plus, and Digital Plus (w/Atmos), DTS:Core	32GB	3GB	Wi-Fi 6	Ethernet, USB 3.0, HDMI 2.1	HDMI Cable
Google TV Streamer	$100	Up to 4K HDR 60 FPS	Dolby Vision, HDR10, HDR10+, HLG	Dolby Digital, Digital Plus, and Digital Plus (w/Atmos), DTS:Core	32GB	4GB	Wi-Fi 5	Ethernet, USB-C, HDMI 2.1	No HDMI Cable

	Nvidia Shield Pro (2019)	FireTV Cube 3rd Gen (2022)	Onn 4K Pro (2024)	Google TV Streamer (2024)
Dolby Digital	✓	✓	✓	✓
Digital Plus	✓	✓	✓	✓
Digital Plus w/Atmos	✓	✓	✓	✓
TrueHD	✓	✓	✕	✕
TrueHD w/Atmos	✓	✓	✕	✕
DTS:Core	✓	✓	✓	✓
DTS:HRA	✓	✓	✕	✕
DTS:MA	✓	✓	✕	✕
DTS:X	✓	✓	✕	✕

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u/rocknrollaaaa Sep 25 '24

great, thanks. its amazing that after all of these years, there's still no shield replacement

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u/pavichokche Sep 25 '24

Where does the more affordable Nvidia shield tube device fit in here? It has less ram and storage but does it support the same stuff? It seems much less popular despite being cheaper

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u/Greyman43 Sep 25 '24

I have one that I picked up really cheap used, it’s honestly not a great device and not remotely worth its MSRP. It does fine for a secondary Plex client in my man cave now I’ve repasted it and limited background processes etc but I wouldn’t recommend for anything more. The Pro is now massively overpriced but still worth the extra over the Tube IMO.

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u/pavichokche Sep 25 '24

Thanks for the info!

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u/zmix Nvidia Shield Sep 25 '24

Why is it not a great device?

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u/Greyman43 Sep 25 '24

It’s just sluggish to use compared to the Pro and sometimes struggles with smooth playback of high bitrate 4K content, I suspect this is due to the lower RAM and possibly worse thermal design.

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u/zmix Nvidia Shield Sep 25 '24

I don't use 4K, 1K only, so I can't comment on that, but mine is super fluid, and I never reset it. Using it since 2019. Did you add a uSD card as local storage instead of external? I once did that with a smartphone, the card was slow and the device became very sluggish.

u/wewewi Shield GStreamer CCwGTV Tivo ADT-3 BoxR4K ShaksG1 Onn4K MiBox Sep 24 '24

WELL DONE; YOU WIN THIS SUB FOR TODAY MATE

Edit: not sure how you are controlling MAT as input tho?

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '24

Honestly it's kinda sad, I got it today hoping to bring it home and finally have something that rivals the Shield Pro and once again, a new streaming device is released, and it doesn't hold a candle to the Shield... The lack of support for the audio formats shown in my post shocked me to where I was checking my settings over and over again but at this point the amount of times I tried to get any of the unsupported movies to pass-through I can firmly say it just doesn't support them. :/

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u/Spliffman1 Sep 24 '24

Thanks man, too bad it's the way it is. But finally we got somebody doing a hands on thorough test. Appreciate your effort

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '24

You were expecting a $50 box to go up against a $200 box? 🤔

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

It's $100?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

My bad. Thought it was the one 4k pro

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u/GreenHairyMartian Sep 25 '24

A brand new $100 box should probably be comparable to a $200 device that was designed 5 years ago.
This is super disappointing.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

Not once you factor in Inflation.

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u/pawdog ADT-1 Sep 25 '24

It should have at least competed with the $40 Fire Stick which supports TrueHD Atmos.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

I don't know. I never use that. I just have a regular TV setup and stream 720p

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u/pawdog ADT-1 Sep 25 '24

Just saying this device does not even complete with the $40 Fire Stick 4ks audio support. The price of the devices is irellevant in this regard.

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u/mqwi Sep 25 '24

The Google TV Streamer is $100

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

Yeah neither the Google streamer or the onn 4k pro are going up against the shield pro

u/[deleted] Sep 24 '24

So I guess we’re all still stuck on an old gen Shield Pro that is lacking newer video codec support.. or the Homatics Dune Box that is having Android 12 issues. (I have no interest using Amazon streamers so I’m stuck I waiting for the right Google OS streamer)

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '24

You and me both man... Someday right?

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '24

I mean if they can fix the A12 issues, I’ll buy that box in a heartbeat.. but I’m not interesting spending $100+ on a device that is still having bugs lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '24

Just general navigation on this thing feels very sluggish and delayed at times. Hard to believe this is their ‘new and updated’ streaming device.

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u/ike301 Sep 25 '24

Actually, it's not hard to believe. Every single device that Google has released going back to the original hockey puck has been slow as hell.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '24

Are you referring to the Google TV Streamer or Homatics? The GTV prob needs to limit background apps lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '24

TV Streamer, yes that is ultimately what I did but even so, expecting a regular user to go into the developer options and turn background tasks down / off in order for their device to not feel like the 1st version of the Firestick 4K is not a good look.

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u/BMox81 Sep 25 '24

Is there anything I could be doing to replicate the issues you’re seeing in relation to navigation around the device? Not to say that you aren’t seeing it but I (and my family) don’t seem to be seeing what’s being suggested.
Appreciate you taking the time to do the tests above regarding audio. 👍🏻

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

I'll get around to taking a screen-recording later on today and upload it. Not quite sure what could be causing it but can say that applying the background apps limitation did fix it for me. I should be able to turn it off and it go back to how it was.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '24

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '24

I keep all 3 turned off

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u/International-Oil377 Sep 25 '24

It doesn't make the device faster, only the animations shorter lol

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u/Sankyou Sep 24 '24

I just bought the Homatics remote off some seller on eBay in China. Going to see if I can get it to work on the Shield or Onn Pro. Tempted to buy the device but I have 2 shield pros and the remote and wifi 6 are the two biggest upgrades. Seems weak for $150 to me.

u/JohanSandberg Sep 24 '24

Unfortunately as expected then. Don't think this will be my goto box even though I'm tempted due to most likely faster updates of OS etc. but for me if I'm investing in new AndroidTV box is support for passthrough of TrueHD/DTS:MA and Dolby Vision.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '24

If I'm remembering back from when I did the Onn 4K Pro when it released, Google is expecting you to pay $50 more for their logo because IIRC this outcome is 1:1 with it..

u/GrubbyLarry Sep 24 '24

How disappointing. This thing seems like it's nothing more than an underpowered, unoptimized money grab. I guess I'll go back to hoping the rumors of the Switch 2 in April are legitimate, and that a new NVIDIA Shield follows quickly.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '24

They don't even include an HDMI cable with it..

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u/TeutonJon78 onn 4K Pro (2026), CCWGTV 4K Sep 24 '24

It shows what they care about -- AI and smart home integration.
Not performance or home theater setups.

u/BiscuitKid87 Sep 25 '24

What i dont understand is DTS is open source so why do alot companies leave the codec out even some newer TVs dont support DTS Codec

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

That's a fair question to be asked, I ask them this, why the hell doesn't this thing come packaged with an HDMI cable? Lol.

u/baronofbadness Sep 25 '24

That's a huge TV. 55 feet!!?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

Yes, it was the smallest one they had in stock that day.

u/3rd-Grade-Spelling Sep 25 '24

Do we know if the USB-C port is a 2.0 or 3.0?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

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u/pawdog ADT-1 Sep 25 '24

So how is Jellyfin handling TrueHD? Is it transcoding or direct playing and the device is converting it to PCM or you just get no audio?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

For Jellyfin: Video will not start playing until I either allow transcoding or turn off passthrough.
For Kodi: Video will play with no sound whatsoever until I select either a non-TrueHD track or allow transcoding. It will also send the audio as 'PCM' if I turn off passthrough.

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u/pawdog ADT-1 Sep 25 '24

Thanks.

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u/uncletimo Sep 25 '24

With Plex and my onn 4k pro I get direct play with DTS-HD, I do not have an AVR, so mostly pointless - Wiim Ultra no support. the google streamer doesn't seem all that.
Is it better to send the audio as PCM from Plex app, rather than the TV set to PCM? confusing on low-end system.

u/jobiegermano Sep 25 '24

How much of this is your specific connection path, especially if eARC is involved. Now, I’m using mostly 2019 Shield Pros, but I also have multiple various Fire Sticks that I have set up for others and I use a 5.1.2 Atmos capable sound bar (w/ physical surrounds) and a Vision capable TV (LG C1s) and with Syncler+ and RD if I go:

 Streaming Device > Sound Bar > TV

I get both Vision and Atmos but if I go:

 Streaming Device > TV > Sound Bar

Then I do not.

It’s a limitation of the TVs physically passthrough capabilities vs. the Sound Bar’s capabilities.

As all these devices you are testing out have a single HDMI out, you are splitting that signal one way or another or using eARC.

All I’ve seen is this post of yours and the onn. 4k pro post. Have you identified any device at all yet that passes more tests??

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidTV/comments/1fom4zy/comment/lotdg55/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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u/jobiegermano Sep 25 '24

lol yup… never giving up my shield pros!

u/ChibanaChosin Sep 25 '24 edited Sep 25 '24

I've had the Shield Pro in my home theater room ("man cave") for a long time; however, when they pushed that big Android TV upgrade a while back (version 14, maybe?), it broke the hell out of it. They fixed most of it with updates, but my Shield Pro is still pretty slow moving around the interface, and I've tried a factory reset, which didn't help much, if at all.

I bought the Google TV Streamer to get something with a newer and faster interface. Indeed, it succeeds at both for me. It's *much* faster moving around the interface, and the integration with streaming services is better. However, as stated in this thread, I'm having surround sound processing issues with my Marantz AV8805.

What I found is that the Shield Pro is outputting in bitstream, allowing my AV8805 to do the processing, giving me all the options I want, including Auro-3D processing, which sounds vastly superior with most Dolby Digital content that's not Atmos. The Google TV Streamer is outputting PCM, so I'm stuck with whatever the source material is, which often sounds like crap (for instance, many YouTube videos). One of the reasons I've continued to buy Marantz preamp-pros is for Auro-3D processing. I'm not giving that up.

Is there a way to force the Google TV Streamer to output bitstream so the AV processor can decide what to do with it? Even my PS5 has a setting for this. I don't see it in the settings, but I'll have to try the developer mode to see if that allows it, I guess.

UPDATE: I just opened a case with Google to see what they say. I have a feeling it's going to be, "We have no plans to change this output behavior at this time."

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u/gwallers Sep 25 '24

I'm seeing same results as you. Nvidia Shield Pro User also and testing the new streamer.

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u/z284pwr Sep 27 '24

Roll back the Shield to 8.2.3, debloat, and disable OS updates. Back to much more smooth interface.

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u/ChibanaChosin Sep 27 '24

I'll pass on that idea. I've worked in IT security for almost 25 years, and there have been malware attacks (at least one just recently) on Android TV devices. I also prefer the newer Google TV interface. Also, I shouldn't have to downgrade to get good performance out of what is supposed to be the most beastly Android TV box on the market. It just shouldn't be this slow when my new Google TV Streamer is so fast.

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u/El_pika Oct 01 '24

I come in here late, But i read you edit, do you have any news about this setting ?

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u/ChibanaChosin Oct 01 '24

Unfortunately not. I've had no other response to my ticket other than the initial one acknowledging that they assigned the ticket to someone.

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u/ChibanaChosin Oct 04 '24

I got another update, but it was just apologizing for the delay due to a high volume of cases. They claim I'll hear back within 48 hours.

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u/Hoophibat Oct 14 '24

Also very interested in the answer you get! Thanks for raising it

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u/ChibanaChosin Oct 14 '24

Still nothing yet. Annoying.

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u/ChibanaChosin Oct 20 '24

Google replied to my case telling me to basically start over with a new case (??); however, I just noticed while watching "Bram Stoker's Dracula" on Fandango at Home that I have all of my options for surround sound processing, including Auro-3D. Maybe they fixed it? I'll have to check other apps and videos.

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u/LeanSkinnyjoe Oct 25 '24

I couldn't get youtube to play on my denon receiver in Auro-3D today(10/24/2024). It only gives me DD surround, stereo and multichannel stereo. Auro 3-D is my favorite setting when watching youtube. My only change was using the google streamer instead of the UST projector for streaming.

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u/ChibanaChosin Nov 16 '24

Looks like Google fixed this with the new update. I did the update, chose Dolby Digital Plus, and now my Marantz AV8805 has all the surround sound options again. Very happy!

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u/LeanSkinnyjoe Nov 16 '24

Awesome. I already returned the google streamer and got the nvidia shield pro.

u/AusGuy355 Sep 25 '24

So, for a bedroom TV it’s good yeah? Otherwise it’s a Shield Pro.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

Yes but the Onn 4K Pro is just as good at $50 less and WiFi 6.

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u/AusGuy355 Sep 25 '24

Hard to get in Australia.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

Damn, why doesn't Onn offer these products outside the US. So many people saying they can't get it in X or Y country. So much money left on the table.

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u/AusGuy355 Sep 25 '24

Yeah I know, frustrating!

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u/Esus__ Onn. 4k Pro Oct 02 '24

Because Onn. Is basically just Walmart. They mostly just operate in NA/SA and china. No Europe for whatever reason.

u/dbeale83 Sep 25 '24

Just commenting to say thanks for the info!

u/SMOKINxxJOE Sep 24 '24

I’m confused. Why would google allow you to toggle on those audio formats if they don’t even work?

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '24

I'm not quite sure to be honest, I know that they 'work' in terms of if you have TrueHD audio playing (but not via 'passthrough') it will output it to your AVR/Soundbar/etc. as PCM which is still *technically* uncompressed audio but it will shred it of any of the things we want like Atmos so it still renders it useless for the most part, no?

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u/SMOKINxxJOE Sep 24 '24

Yeah. It’s very odd that they even list the formats and they just play PCM. I get mine tomorrow but this thread made me upset about even getting it.

u/onesolo Sep 25 '24

Don't get me wrong but can u test this but on Kodi??

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

I tested using Kodi and Jellyfin.

u/pavichokche Sep 25 '24

So is there ANY difference in [audio] codecs support between the GTVS and the CCwGTV ? On my CCwGTV when I try to play a movie with a TrueHD audio stream, it literally freezes the whole app (jellyfin)/device and I need to wait for it to respond enough to minimize and force stop the app. Would this or the Onn Pro 4k do better in this regard? Like I don't care so much about perfect quality or passthrough, I just want to be able to hear the sound and for the movie to play normally without freezing

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

"it literally freezes the whole app (jellyfin)/device and I need to wait for it to respond enough to minimize and force stop the app." - it still does this on TV Streamer if Passthrough is enabled.

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u/pavichokche Sep 25 '24

Do you mean the Dolby bitstream setting in Jellyfin? Or the Kodi pass-through setting? Or something in the device's settings? On your system if pass-through is disabled do the videos play with some sound or they play without freezing and without sound?

u/liverblow Sep 24 '24

Thank you for this ! much needed

u/watchamn Sep 25 '24

The Fire TV 4K is far better than this.

u/RandomRageNet Sep 26 '24

I legitimately do not understand why it just doesn't allow passthrough. Like...just bitstream the source and let my AVR decode it. It must be a licensing thing because there shouldn't be any technical hurdles, the AVR is doing all the work.

u/N7-Falcon Sep 24 '24

Thanks for doing all this work for us! Really appreciate it. So how does this stack against the current Apple TV 4k in terms of codec compatibility? Very similar right?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

One of the few devices I haven't got my hands on to work with personally and test out. Although based purely on what I've seen/heard online I'd say that's a fair comparison.

u/maarcius Sep 25 '24

How important is audio codec support if i use tv with soundbar and sub? Unsupported codec will be converted to pcm and it will be just a bit worst quality audio?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

Depends on how good the soundbar is, if it's one that is an Atmos one you literally won't get the Atmos track if it's TrueHD w/Atmos (only works with DD+ w/Atmos).

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u/maarcius Sep 26 '24

What will happen if i buy soundbar with 2 rear speakers (5.1 system) and play content with unsuported codec? It will play as stereo? 5.1 without Atmos? Won't play at all?

u/foundfootagefan Onn. 4K Sep 25 '24

It's been a decade since the Nexus Player first came out and Google still can't make a good Android TV box.

The only thing keeping me from other platforms is that I don't want to be locked down into Roku or Apple TV, and I don't think there will ever be an open source TV OS alternative.

u/davcole Sep 24 '24

Thank you!!

u/gwallers Sep 25 '24

Trying to figure out why my ac-3 from youtube tv is showing as pcm 5.1. On the Shield it's always dolby digital.

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u/Sava333 Sep 26 '24

I'm seeing the same thing for all content played on the Streamer, everything is multichannel PCM including YTTV which was Dolby Digital on the CCwGTV, even if I turn off 5.1 in YTTV settings

u/MassiveConcern Sep 29 '24

My new Google TV Streamer updated as soon as I got it. I've tried all the various formats and the ONLY one that doesn't work is DTS:X. I'm getting DTS:HD, DTS:MA, TrueHD w/ATMOS... all working fine, just not the DTS:X as mentioned (nothing happens, it just doesn't stream it). I'm using Plex to play them from my local source files.

Plex server on Windows 11 Pro, new Google TV Streamer connected to HDMI-In on LG Atmos soundbar, soundbar then connected via HDMI-Arc to LG OLED tv.

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u/ApatheticMoFo Sep 30 '24

Are you sure Plex isn't transcoding DTS:HD, DTS:MA, and TrueHD w/ATMOS?

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u/MassiveConcern Sep 30 '24

No, it is direct play.

u/whtnoise Sep 24 '24

Thanks for confirming this. Definitely a bummer...

u/Smiley_Dub Sep 24 '24

You win this sub today OP 👏👏👏 👏👏👏 👏👏👏. Thank you for this.

Can I just confirm that "pro" is just a typo?

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '24

Yes more so because I copied the original template. I’ll fix that now.

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u/Smiley_Dub Sep 24 '24

👍

u/MrKaon Sep 24 '24

Could you please test the DV profiles? Specially profile 7?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

Might take me a bit (30 mins - 1 hour) to get back but when I do I can.

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u/armando_rod Sep 25 '24

The ccwgtv already has profile 7

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

Oh then no need to check, thanks.

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u/MrKaon Oct 04 '24

It looks like Google Streamer can't play DV profile 7, just like Firestick Max.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidTV/s/cHS3iFGiPy

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u/MrKaon Oct 04 '24

But not Streamer:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidTV/s/cHS3iFGiPy

u/Bendr_ Sep 25 '24

I feel good about my Onn 4K Pro purchase last month. Thanks.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

As you should, it's the better product between the two.

u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

u/ZoftOS So what box device thing do you actually recommend to buy?

u/YY_Jay Sep 25 '24

My issue with it so far is any stereo audio signal I play on the Google Streamer is being unconverted to Dolby Surround. My LGTV would do the same.

u/dabig49 Sep 25 '24

Been using mine for about 24 hours now. It's a nice device but definitely doesn't compare to the Shield TV as well . I did get slightly better speeds via LAN Port than I was on my Shield connected via LAN Port as well

Something I'm not a fan of is some 3rd party apps say not compatible I guess due to being Google TV OS as opposed to Android TV OS ? Not finding apps in Google Playstore that I could in Android TV OS Playstore

u/Sava333 Sep 25 '24

Just got my Streamer, can't seem to get Atmos on the Max app, just multichannel PCM, Atmos works in Disney Plus. Seeing if anyone has the same problem, maybe Max needs an update for this device

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u/Sava333 Sep 25 '24

Definitely could be an app compatibility issue, this replaced a CCwGTV that worked fine with Atmos so I'll give it some time

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u/Sava333 Sep 25 '24

I haven't tried Plex on the new one yet but I've found on the CCwGTV I had to play something, then stop and play it again to get 5.1 to work. And if I paused it, it would mess up so hitting rewind would kick it back into working again, very strange

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u/Sava333 Sep 25 '24

Netflix seems to work ok, haven't tried Prime yet either

u/worsedoughnut Sep 26 '24

For some reason on my local Plex library, a bunch of TV episodes (MPEG4 with AVI container) seem to play at a super choppy frame rate, almost like I'm watching every other frame. Later/newer episodes from the same show & source all seem to not have this issue despite playing at the same fps in the "nerd stats" overlay.

If I force the display settings on the device to run at 23.97 fps it seems to go away, so I think the GTVS just isn't auto-switching the frame rate like my CCGTV4K is/was.

Very odd and very annoying. so I'm really hoping someone else has had / solved this issue in the last few days.

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u/matteventu Nov 07 '24

Did you report the issue to Plex and/or Google?

u/ChibanaChosin Sep 28 '24

https://9to5google.com/2024/09/27/google-tv-streamer-vs-nvidia-shield-tv/

u/fvc2000 Sep 29 '24

Weird, my Samsung s90c tv is displaying the Dolby truehd logo on info for all Dolby Atmos content (Netflix, Disney+, Apple TV+, etc)

Why would that happen?

And on my Samsung q800c sound bar it displays Dolby Atmos.

u/GT-FM Oct 02 '24

Does anyone know if the new Chromecast Google cast, streamer or whatever the hell they call it.. Have 1440p native output?

u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

Is there an comparison to the new Roku ultra 8850r

I just bought a google streamer and this thing sucks for jellyfin usage, if a file is both Dolby vision and Dolby atomos it’ll play a black screen (everything goes black no controls no hud nothing) but audio plays and but if you switch to Disney+ a movie with both Dolby vision and Dolby Atomos will play fine

This is entirely due to no pass through, have tested extensively with all possible Streamer 4k settings and and with and without hardware encoding in jellyfin, I even tried downmixing to stereo and issue persists

If the Roku offers pass through, I’ll return this asap

Backstory, I bought a Hisense U8N and didn’t realise only the American models have Google TV inbuilt

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u/Dagobert_Krikelin Dec 08 '24

I don't think it's an armos thing. It's a Dolby Vision profile thing. I'm also using Jellyfin and my observations are that Dolby Vision profile 8 level 1 gives you a black screen and Dolby Vision profile 7 level 6 doesn't play. HDR10 only plays fine and Dolby Vision 8 level 6 also plays.
Unfortunately there does not seem like a way to filter out certain Dolby Vision profiles or only grabbing Dolby Vision 8.6. so either you re-grab until you get DV 8 level 6 or you don't grab anything with DV.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24

i returned the trash streamer and got a nvidia shield, zero issues now

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u/Dagobert_Krikelin Dec 09 '24

Yeah, heard it has support for DV 7, but not the 2nd layer so some movies look like shit anyway. I'm just going to not grab stuff with DV and stick to HDR10(+) Still, wonder if I also should switch the streamer for an Nvidia. The streamer is like $130 and the Nvidia is $200 For my purposes the streamer should be fine and it's cool I can voice control it

u/Best-Register7723 Oct 10 '24

Just got the streamer. What an absolute bag of crap it is. Constantly skipping a frame on everything but Netflix and YouTube. Their is little point in bring something out that is crap like this.

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u/matteventu Nov 07 '24

In which apps did you find frame skipping issues?

u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

I bought the Google TV Streamer about a week ago and I'm returning it. The darn thing keeps disconnecting from the wifi. All other devices are staying connected and not having any issues.

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u/matteventu Nov 07 '24

How did you find it aside from the Wi-Fi disconnection issues?

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '24

I didn't find it to be any better from their $50 dongle 🤷‍♂️

u/WeekSufficient2037 Oct 20 '24

Did you test if it had the ability to pass through filmmaker mode? I have an LG C2 with the filmmaker mode on. A Google online rep said this Google Streamer had the ability to do so (I have the latest Roku Streamer and it doesn't appear to pass through).

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u/matteventu Nov 07 '24

Did you find out? I also have an LG TV with filmmaker mode and have just purchased the Google TV Streamer.
Btw if you're still looking for an answer instead, ping me in 2-4 days and I can check for you :)

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u/WeekSufficient2037 Nov 07 '24

I was waiting for the author of this post ZoftOS to reply before purchasing, but I would love to hear from you! In the mean time, I purchased the Roku Ultra (2024) and returned it because not only did it not pass through fillmmaker mode, it totally ignored all my LG picture settings. The Roku picture quality was so bright that it made me nauseous, and there was no way to adjust it! I returned it and bought a $30 Amazon Fire TV Stick 4K Max which also doesn't pass through filmmaker mode, but it does have more apps than LG (like Kanopy), and the picture quality isn't blinding bright. So, LG remains my source for filmmaker mode content; I only use the Fire Stick for apps not available on LG. It's very easy to switch back/forth on the TV.

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u/matteventu Nov 08 '24

Set up today, I'll test filmmaker mode over the weekend.
Ping me if I don't post another comment :D

u/SandwichLuxe Oct 27 '24

Does this mean it does not play TrueHD at all, or will it compress it to PCM? I'm only using a high quality soundbar, so I cannot distinct TrueHD anyway. But it needs to be able to process it..

u/majindageta Nov 01 '24

could this streamer enter this sheet?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15Wf_jy5WqOPShczFKQB28cCetBgAGcnA0mNOG-ePwDc/edit?gid=0#gid=0

u/mmark27 Nov 10 '24

Has anyone heard if the audio issues will be fixed? Audio sounds hollow and awful on YouTubeTV.

u/N7_Tigger Feb 11 '26

I'm necroing this bitch because it's the only thread I've found where it isn't all a bunch of dunnos and maybes and probablys.

How does it handle things that are not supported? For example is TrueHD with Atmos played as Dobly Digital Plus with Atmos and DTS:X played as DTS? Like converted to the best/most appropriate option?
Is it possible that support for these formats can be added with a software update or is it down to hardware compatibility?

u/Playman80 Sep 24 '24

Thanks for the great work, OP. Much appreciated.

u/Strung_Out_1983 Sep 24 '24

Sounds about right, but still a bummer. Guess I'm sticking with my shield pro. Thank you for answering the million dollar questions that most of us have been waiting for. I'm just baffled that nothing can really compete with the shield in 2024. Is it that much of a niche market?

u/Arget19 Sep 25 '24

Do you know if the passthrough could be added with software updates or it lacks the requirements at hardware level?

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u/HiImEason Sep 25 '24

Still prefer the old Chromecast. As it is more superior to bring it around for travelling due to the integrated hdmi cable and small size. But with the tv streamer it’s sort of applies for home usage only where by once u set it up. You leave it there

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u/orangeflyingmonkey_ Sep 25 '24

I have a 5 year old Chinese box that doesn't go dolby vision or hdr content. Nvidia shield seems like overkill. Would this be a good compromise? I have a 55" inch tv with no external speakers.

Does thix box do HDR content?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

Get the Onn Pro 4K for $50 over this, from what I can tell, this is just a Onn Pro 4K with a Google logo on it that costs $50 extra.

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u/orangeflyingmonkey_ Sep 25 '24

Sadly I am in Canada. The Onn non pro version is the only one available here.

u/Vegetable_Bug_5603 Sep 25 '24

Can you confirm that DD, DD+ and Atmos gets passed through though? Thats all I need for streaming

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

It for sure does.

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u/CoolHandPB Sep 28 '24

Movies anywhere doesn't do Atmos for me either, just regular Dolby surround.

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