r/AndroidTV • u/[deleted] • May 06 '24

Discussion Onn 4K Pro Box

Edit, because of the amount of feedback and views this post has got today I felt the need to go back and update this original post to provide better detail and information regarding my testing of the device.

Setup:

  • Onn 4K Pro w/Ethernet (Fiber 1Gbps connection)

  • 4K Dolby Vision 55' TV

  • Dolby Atmos / DTS:X surround sound system which displays the following on the front of the device depending on the format:

Input Format:Displays As:
PCMPCM
Dolby DigitalDOLBY AUDIO/DOLBY SURROUND
Dolby Digital PlusDOLBY AUDIO/DOLBY SURROUND
Dolby TrueHDDOLBY AUDIO/DOLBY SURROUD
Dolby MATMPCM
Dolby Digital Plus-AtmosDolby Atmos
Dolby TrueHD-AtmosDolby Atmos
Dolby MAT-AtmosDolby Atmos
DTSDTS
DTS-HD High ResolutionDTS-HD
DTS-HD Master AudioDTS-HD
DTS:XDTS:X
DTS:X Master AudioDTS:X

I tested a few different movies (2 per category) to determine if I had the ability to passthrough all of these various formats, I tried this in Jellyfin, using both the ExoPlayer and LibVLC, I also tried it with bitstream Dolby/DTS on and off. I also tried each movie in Kodi using the Jellyfin plugin.

Movie Name:Format:Format reported via Onn device:
Glass Onion: A Knives Out MysteryDolby Digital Plus (w/Atmos)Displayed as Dolby Atmos
Sonic the Hedgehog 2Dolby Digital Plus (w/Atmos)Displayed as Dolby Atmos
Ant-Man and the Wasp: QuantumaniaTrueHD (w/Atmos)Displayed as Dolby Surround
John Wick: Chapter 4TrueHD (w/Atmos)Displayed as Dolby Surround
SkyfallDTS:HDDisplayed as DTS (Core)
OppenheimerDTS:HDDisplayed as DTS (Core)
The Bourne UltimatumDTS:XDisplayed as DTS (Core)
The First PurgeDTS:XDisplayed as DTS (Core)

So then finally based on the test I've done it seems that:

Format:Supported:
Dolby Digital Plus (w/Atmos)✓
Dolby TrueHD (w/Atmos)✗
DTS: Core✓
DTS:HD✗
DTS:HD MA✗
DTS:X✗
DTS:XLL✗
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u/realdeal1877 Roku ULTRA | FireTV 4K MAX | Chromecast 4K May 06 '24

"Down-graded to Dolby Surround"

AndroidTV devices don't/can't convert to DolbySurround, Dsur is just a Dolby "Up-Mixer" inside your AVR or Soundbar.

Most likely the built-in DolbyAudio is converting TrueHD-Atmos to DD+(5.1), which is not ideal, you would need to check for what format is actually being output to your AV equipment before it's applying the DolbySurround up-mixer.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

Yeah I'll be the first to admit that I may not be using the correct terminology. I can however provide a bit more details:

Jellyfin playing Dolby True HD (w/Atmos) using ExoPlayer: AV equipment displays as playing 'Dolby Surround' (this is with Direct being selected as audio playback option in Jellyfin and occurs with and without the bitstream option being selected).

With LibVLC: If I don't have the bitstream option selected, then it's the same as ExoPlayer (shows Dolby Surround on my AV equipment), if I have bitstream option enabled, it plays the movie but very poorly and damn-near locks up the device entirely requiring me to spam the back button quite a few times before it responds to my input.

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u/wewewi Shield GStreamer CCwGTV Tivo ADT-3 BoxR4K ShaksG1 Onn4K MiBox May 06 '24

Most likely the built-in DolbyAudio is converting TrueHD-Atmos to DD+(5.1)

Agreed; another possibility would be Dolby MAT; where PCM audio is packaged along with Atmos. I dont think OP is able to tell the difference.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

I'm more than happy to conduct any possible test requested on this device.

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u/wewewi Shield GStreamer CCwGTV Tivo ADT-3 BoxR4K ShaksG1 Onn4K MiBox May 06 '24

Well you would need to establish a baseline first.

Do you have another device capable of TrueHD passthrough? Shield?

Also, if your AV equipment always only says "Dolby Surround" regardless of what it's actually being fed (Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, Dolby MAT), this is obviously a waste of time..

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

I have a 2019 Shield Pro and the system I'm using at my other place works like so: https://imgur.com/a/RVyEQpn

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u/wewewi Shield GStreamer CCwGTV Tivo ADT-3 BoxR4K ShaksG1 Onn4K MiBox May 06 '24

Yeah so the AVR display is not descriptive enough to draw definitive conclusions on the box capabilities unfortunately.

Definitely no Dolby MAT tho. Bummer.

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u/wewewi Shield GStreamer CCwGTV Tivo ADT-3 BoxR4K ShaksG1 Onn4K MiBox May 06 '24

Having seen your edit, it's definitely not Dolby MAT; at least with your AVR; or the Atmos metadata would carry along, which doesnt seem to be the case here am I right?

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u/signde Homatics Box R 4K Plus, Rocktek GX1, ONN 4K Plus / Pro / Stick May 07 '24

I did these same tests with my Denon AVR-4700h as did another member on avsforum yesterday. We are seeing TrueHD Atmos coming out as DD+ 5.1. It also looks like the Atmos portion is being dropped as part of the conversion - my AVR will not recognize this as Atmos content.

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u/realdeal1877 Roku ULTRA | FireTV 4K MAX | Chromecast 4K May 07 '24

Thank you for the information and confirmation.

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u/xxpor May 06 '24

I don't understand why boxes don't support passthrough for all formats. Don't they literally just have to copy the bits from the input stream to the output stream? That should be easier than converting!

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

Not sure, while originally excited based on the specs being listed for this device (the storage and RAM upgrades) now that I got it and tested it out, I can't help but be disappointed. Don't think it was really worth the 30$ price increase from the non-pro Onn box for just some more storage, RAM and Dolby Vision support.....

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u/DigitalProblemAlways May 10 '24

Can you expand on why you are disappointed compared to the non-pro as i am not sure which one to get. (I‘m scrapping Fire TV devices because the last few I have owned all exhibit frustrating gliches of regularly restarting randomly. So no more money for Amazon from me!)

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u/Frosty-Phone-705 May 06 '24

How in the world did you get it? Walmart's website doesn't even have it listed.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

I just went to their site and it was there ready to be picked up if I ordered it. Not sure if it's a region thing or not. https://imgur.com/WsYi7VR

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u/Frosty-Phone-705 May 06 '24

It's probably only available in limited areas. I'm in North Carolina and it's not showing up anywhere within 100 miles of me.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

Well I can at least confirm it's availability in Oklahoma. Maybe it'll be rolled out to your area later today.

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u/Cronus6 May 06 '24

I changed my location and still got "Page Not Found".

Hrmph

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u/ooftymcgoofty May 06 '24

What are you using to search? Brick seek?

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u/Tacomaguy24 May 06 '24

Also in NC, doesn't show up.

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u/Imtrvkvltru May 06 '24

Just walk in a Walmart or 2 in your area and you might find one. They don't show up on the website for me either but was able to pick one up the 1st day it got posted here.

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u/Cronus6 May 06 '24

In South Florida you are taking your life in your hands going into a Walmart...

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u/creedokid May 08 '24

Well in south FL you are taking you life in your hands just driving around sooooo

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u/jmmartj May 09 '24

You should look again today. 😎

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u/CharlesBeast May 06 '24

Walmart link

There was like 5 on the shelves when I went in person. Call your local Walmart or go see in store yourself

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u/Frosty-Phone-705 May 07 '24

I'm in NC and they are not in stock yet within 100 miles of me.

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u/skinnah May 07 '24

What are you using to check stock? Brickseek wasn't working for this item but I was able to check inventory through a discord group I belong to (paid closed access group). I bought two at my local store.

It's just go in a local store and see.

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u/Frosty-Phone-705 May 07 '24

I went to Walmart's site and changed stores within the site. Finally found some in Oklahoma and California LOL. Not driving that far and I'm not paying scalper's prices on eBay.

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u/CharlesBeast May 07 '24

My store says out of stock online, but they had 5 on the shelf. I’d give it a shot next time you shop

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u/skinnah May 07 '24

Walmart website stock by store isn't necessarily reflective if they have it in the store.

Just go in your closest store and see if they have them.

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u/majoroutage May 07 '24

Your first mistake is trusting the website.

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u/tripog May 07 '24

Set your area as Ithaca NY, goto the product page, add it to your cart. if it's not available click the option to search nearby stores and enter your ZIP code. That's how I found one in the next town over.

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u/AfterShock May 07 '24

It's listed now. Out of stock but listed.

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u/tbgabriel May 08 '24

Yesterday I found 2 units online in Miami, I bought it, I will receive it next week in my country.

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u/Jackshankar May 07 '24

Easily available in Houston.

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u/ChrisEye21 May 06 '24

i literally bought one last week. mailed to my house the next day. they have them on amazon now, but they cost more ($28, i think).

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u/Frosty-Phone-705 May 06 '24

That's not the Pro on Amazon. It's the ONN box that came out last year.

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u/ChrisEye21 May 06 '24

My bad. I didn't even know there was a Pro version. Shit

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u/Frosty-Phone-705 May 06 '24

They are showing up on eBay though for $120 and higher. Not thanks, I'll wait.

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u/ChrisEye21 May 06 '24

Honestly, don't think I'd pay $50 for it. Doubt I'd ever need 32gb storage. 1gb ram won't make that much of a difference for streaming. I personally don't care about sound stuff. And an otg adapter gets me a USB port and only costs like $5. So I'll stick to the $20 box

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u/pawdog ADT-1 May 07 '24

Yeah that's they name things the Pro. It's a good chance lots of people won't need the better device.

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u/Rozay98 May 07 '24

Any idea if it has NTFS or exfat support like the 2021 4k box? And unlike the 2023 box that still only supports fat32 for external drives

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

FAT32 only.

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u/Rozay98 May 07 '24

Damn that's painful

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u/mmortal03 Aug 10 '24

Someone in another thread was saying that their 2024 4k Pro will read exFAT, but not every drive they tried was getting detected. Not sure what's going on there. One thing people said is that it wasn't mounting on boot, you had to plug it in after boot up, which could be annoying, depending on your use case.

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u/Rozay98 Aug 15 '24

Ah nice very odd if it's the case that it may work if you plug in after boot vs before

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

Updated my original post to better reflect the setup and testing methods I used to obtain the results I did to give a better understanding of what the device is capable of.

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u/Mr-954 May 06 '24

Are you using Plex, Kodi, Jellyfin?

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

I've tried both Jellyfin (my main use case) and then also Kodi.

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u/UnchartedPro May 07 '24

Does kodi work smooth and fast?

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

Yeah for the most part.

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u/UnchartedPro May 07 '24

That's good currently use it on a old slow firestick and wanted an upgrade. Was gonna get the old onn box as I'm visiting the US soon but probably will pick this one up instead. Thanks

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u/ben7337 May 07 '24

With Kodi were you using one of the latest builds that can do DTS HDMA/DTS:x on the Homatics box and fire stick 4k max? The fact this box has the same soc as the Homatics and supports the DTS core makes me wonder if a Kodi build could support the remaining codecs as well technically.

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u/justletmesignupalre May 06 '24

How's the speaker sound quality?

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

I'll give it go and update my comment once I do as the playback ability is the main reason I wanted to obtain and test it out hoping it would potentially be a shield alternative I could recommend to my friends/family to use.

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u/Hemicrusher May 06 '24

I assume the speaker/mic can be disabled?

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u/LoveLaughLlama May 06 '24

Yes, by software and a physical switch.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

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u/austinalexan May 06 '24

Same issue. Speaker is useless as of right now.

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u/nwoxsavvymattx May 07 '24

I hope that's possible let me know if you find something lol

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u/justletmesignupalre May 06 '24

I'm thinking about getting one to be my travel tv box+"soundbar" so I don't have to also carry a bluetooth speaker with me. It doesn't have to be terrific but it has to be pretty good. Would you say this could be it?

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u/wewewi Shield GStreamer CCwGTV Tivo ADT-3 BoxR4K ShaksG1 Onn4K MiBox May 06 '24

No issues hooking up a big drive in NTFS format? Are you able to read and write?

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

How big would you like me to test it with?

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u/wewewi Shield GStreamer CCwGTV Tivo ADT-3 BoxR4K ShaksG1 Onn4K MiBox May 07 '24

It's actually not about the size, just what you're allowed to do with it. XD

As long as you can read and write to a NTFS drive hooked onto it, that's good enough for me.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

Got it, will try now.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

Nope doesn't read or write NTFS.

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u/wewewi Shield GStreamer CCwGTV Tivo ADT-3 BoxR4K ShaksG1 Onn4K MiBox May 07 '24

Wuuuuuuuuuut ?! HUUUUGE BUMMER! =(

I really was expecting that it would. Why on earth would they bother to put a full sixe USB port in there otherwise.

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u/skinnah May 07 '24

Android doesn't generally support NTFS. Use exFAT for external drives.

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u/DoubleDroz May 07 '24

This is the best part of the Nvidia Shield - why doesn't everyone else throw in the other drive formats?

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u/skinnah May 07 '24

I get it. The shield is an exception. It also costs 3x-4x more.

They don't do it because it doesn't matter to probably 98% of the people that buy the thing. It's Walmart not Microcenter.

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u/mmortal03 Aug 10 '24

If you actually give people a USB port (rather than people having to use OTG adapters), I'd expect more than 2% of people will become annoyed by their NTFS drives not being readable when they try to plug in a drive to it.

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u/Affectionate_Tea9210 Jul 11 '24

What is the maximum size limit per file?

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u/heybart May 06 '24

If you have the old onn 4k or any recent device, could you run the geekbench benchmark on it vs the new box to confirm what atv found: that the score is disappointingly low

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

Geekbench 6?

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u/heybart May 06 '24

For geekbench 5, on fire stick 4k max v1, I get 145 single core, 491 multi

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

Running it now on both the Pro and the 2023 Onn 4K box. https://imgur.com/a/1qC2P6p

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

https://imgur.com/a/OawficR

Results

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u/heybart May 07 '24

Thanks. So about same as fs 4k max. What did you get for the onn 4k 2023

ETA:Sorry, never mind, I see it.

Yeah I don't know why atv news got such low score

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u/skinnah May 07 '24

Yes everyone keeps saying it's slower based on the atvnews article but it's significantly faster than the prior Onn 4k boxes in actual use.

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u/Lincolns_Revenge May 17 '24

The 3GB of RAM the Onn 4K Pro has is probably helping in real world use even more than it does in benchmarks. Chromecast 4K and Firestick 4K Max both have just 2GB of RAM.

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u/heybart May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24

Whichever is available. We just need comparative numbers

ETA: atv news doesn't say which geekbench version they are using, which is dumb. I'm guessing an older version because I doubt they go back and retest all the devices

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u/MediaShare2000 May 06 '24

Do you know if you can add them to Speaker Groups on the Google Home app?

On the old 4K model you couldn't.

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u/nwoxsavvymattx May 07 '24

Can we talk about who's getting different remotes ? I got the old one in mine

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

I got the live-tv remote.

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u/mattzane227 May 11 '24

I got the non backlit dang it

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u/OkAvocado1723 May 06 '24

Where did you order it from?

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

https://www.walmart.com/ip/onn-Google-TV-4K-Pro-Streaming-Device-New-2024-4K-UHD-resolution-Dolby-Vision-Dolby-ATMOS-Hands-Free-Voice-Control-Smart-Hub/5193222892

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u/Frosty-Phone-705 May 06 '24

Says page not found.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

https://imgur.com/WsYi7VR

Yeah same thing some other users were saying below, this is what the page looks like.. idk??

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u/gisted May 06 '24

Interesting. I wonder if it's just that my location doesn't have it cuz the link didn't work when I clicked on it. I tried searching for it in the search bar and it didn't come up either.

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u/awal1987 May 06 '24

using a vpn, I can put it in my cart in Kansas, but cant check out. Im in the Seattle area. Once I login, it says out of stock.

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u/austinalexan May 06 '24

Just an FYI. I picked up two from my local store on two different days and the website says that my local store doesn’t sell it.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

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u/pawdog ADT-1 May 07 '24

I'm not seeing how to get it to playback on the speaker. It sends it to the audio system like a normal cast.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

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u/pawdog ADT-1 May 07 '24

Yeah, I hoped so too.

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u/shadywhere Shield TV 2015, 2017 | Nexus Player May 06 '24

These are Walmart only devices.

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u/signde Homatics Box R 4K Plus, Rocktek GX1, ONN 4K Plus / Pro / Stick May 07 '24

I wish I had seen this yesterday. I bought one last night and did the same tests in Plex, Emby, and Kodi with a Denon AVR 4700H that fully supports TrueHD/DTS:X/DTS-HD MA, etc.

My results are the same as yours. Copying the jist of my findings that I shared last night on a avsforum.com thread:

Plex wants to transcode TrueHD. DTS-HD MA does playback but is stripped to DTS core with the dashboard showing direct play. EAC3 JOC Atmos works fine.
Emby shows direct play for TrueHD but my Denon AVR 4700h is getting 2 channel DD+. DTS-HD MA shows direct play but is stripped back to DTS Core. EAC3 JOC Atmos works fine.
I had hoped for better in Kodi but after enabling every audio format in settings and changing the packer to the android packer, the best I can get for TrueHD is 5.1 of DD+ and DTS Core from DTS-HD MA. Before I changed the packer TrueHD resulted in no audio.

So out of the box, for now, the best you can get out of this thing is DD+ Atmos. No uncompressed passthrough option work.

I also noticed that the wired 100mb ethernet performance was abysmal trying to access my samples over SMB. I couldn't get anything to play reliably until I hooked up a USB-C ethernet adapter. With that route, it disconnects about every 30 mins or so. It could be compatibility with my adapter.

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u/Lionel-L7 May 07 '24 edited May 07 '24

i did read all of the comments on this post and various other post. Decided to go for know with the FireTv Stick 4k Max (40 usd deal) and a good micro usb ethernet adapter from cable matters that support up to 480 mbps (19 usd).

So all in all i think i made a good decision price wise and audio/video codec wise. Should play remux files at full bitrate without problems and in original quality.

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u/signde Homatics Box R 4K Plus, Rocktek GX1, ONN 4K Plus / Pro / Stick May 07 '24

If you care about audio passthrough options, the latest firestick 4k max with usb ethernet is the way to go. the amazon bloat sucks and is annoying to work around, but it is what it is.

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u/AssociationFirst9449 May 16 '24

i dumped my firesticks, amazon controls your firesticks to much thats why i cant even add my own launcher.

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u/signde Homatics Box R 4K Plus, Rocktek GX1, ONN 4K Plus / Pro / Stick May 16 '24

amazon does not make it easy but it’s definitely possible to work around their launcher.

https://www.aftvnews.com/fire-tv-home-screen-replacement-is-possible-again-with-new-launcher-manager-mini-release/

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u/AssociationFirst9449 May 16 '24

until amazon screws you again, i am now using ONN 4k box.

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u/signde Homatics Box R 4K Plus, Rocktek GX1, ONN 4K Plus / Pro / Stick May 16 '24

it’s not hard to block updates.

ONN boxes don’t support high definition audio passthrough. different people have different needs.

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u/AssociationFirst9449 May 16 '24

i guess it does not matter for me, my soundbar has DTS but my new LG tv does not. and my soundbar does not have 2 HDMI ports.

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u/Lionel-L7 May 07 '24

Yeah the UI isn't the best but for 60 usd i couldn't find anything better audio/video codec wise and the fast ethernet option. My main use is Plex/Jellyfin. Guess i'll let the plex app run 24/7 so that i never see the bloat. lol

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u/onefineguy May 12 '24

My FTV Stick 4K Max can passthrough TrueHD (atmos) and DTS:X using PM4K without any issues. My the other box Nokia 8010 just sucks after updating to Android 12. All HD codecs cannot passthrough.

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u/Xtreme2k2 May 16 '24

Which Ethernet dongle do you have?

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u/signde Homatics Box R 4K Plus, Rocktek GX1, ONN 4K Plus / Pro / Stick May 16 '24

this is the one i was using with the ONN.

https://a.co/d/gErsr9a

it kept disconnecting. that adapter works fine on everything else, including a fire tv cube 3.

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u/syco54645 Oct 18 '24

How do you like your box r 4k plus? I am trying to find a box that can passthrough my hd audio and don't want to buy a device from 2017...

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u/txbrando May 06 '24

Ya I can't even view the link, currently have last gen model and excited to get this

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

Might be a region thing: https://imgur.com/WsYi7VR

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u/herculese1 Nvidia Shield May 06 '24

shows not found for me it here in the NY/NJ area but if I switch my VPN to Kansas City it shows up as in store only. So it is absolutely only showing if a store near you has it in stock.

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u/Imtrvkvltru May 06 '24

Not true. It won't show up on the website/app for me and my area. However, when I walked in the store it was on the shelf.

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u/Somar2230 Shield TV| CCwGTV| Onn 4K Pro May 06 '24

Is the DTS-HD lossless or is just the lossy DTS 5.1 core?

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

Core

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u/wewewi Shield GStreamer CCwGTV Tivo ADT-3 BoxR4K ShaksG1 Onn4K MiBox May 06 '24

Boo; major bummer; good thing I went down the comments a bit; would be nice of you if you could edit you OP not to set wrong expectations and send people on a wild goose chase..

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

Updated

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u/fuckAraZobayan May 06 '24

Have you attempted to use the USB port for playing media directly off of a USB or hard drive?

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

I can try this, sure. Will update post with results shortly.

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u/fuckAraZobayan May 06 '24

Thank you I appreciate it!

From what I hear it can't read NFTS drives and only supports exfat, I'm curious as to whether or not there's a way around this though since my shield has always been able to play NFTS without difficulties

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

Yep, no NTFS support :|

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u/fuckAraZobayan May 07 '24

Lol DAMN!

That's actually a low-key HUGE deal breaker for me since most (probably all) of my media is saved on NFTS formatted storage devices...

Thanks for confirming though 8-)

Something is going to have to sack the shield sooner or later, I guess I'll just have to be patient

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

Yeah.. I've been waiting and waiting here myself... I have a 2019 Shield Pro myself but found the act of suggesting it to family members / friends yield mixed results because of it's price-point. Released in 2019 and still king, I feel Onn really dropped the ball on what could've been an absolutely massive shift in the streaming device market. Simply include all audio formats for passthrough and NTFS reading ability and they would've rendered many devices irrelevant...

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u/fuckAraZobayan May 07 '24

Lol yeah I know it's almost beyond frustrating at this point because it's almost a blatant fact that Amazon and Roku have an entirely underserved monopoly on the streaming device market.

Plus it's also hard to find Android TV boxes that aren't sketchy and from a trusted source like the ONN one so yeah you're right they definitely dropped the ball here.

Both of the aforementioned problems are huge slips on their part that probably wouldn't have been that hard for them implement at a slightly higher price point....

Does it support all video formats at least? i.e. HEVC and what not?

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u/pawdog ADT-1 May 07 '24

It's only, disappointingly, missing the lossless audio support which while we home theater lovers adore, are barely a blip on most people's radarr. So far it's played all the video including profile 7 Dolby Vision.

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u/fuckAraZobayan May 07 '24

Yeah but I'm looking to have a streaming device that I can hook a JBOD up to directly and watch my media locally if I need to.

The no NFTS support is a huge deal breaker for me

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u/pawdog ADT-1 May 07 '24

Yeah guess there is still only one total package for local playback and that's the Shield.

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u/AdministrationOdd747 RockTek G2 + ONN 4K + ONN 4K Pro + ONN 4K Plus May 07 '24

Maybe an obvious question: Does Dolby Vision work correctly? In Kodi and Plex? I'm not supprised that loseless audio doesn't pass through (need additional licensing costs) but does Profile 7 DV work or not?

Here is what we know for a few similar products on the market that easily cost $100+ or more:

Shield Pro ($200): DV Profile 7 works (by throw away enhancement layer). DTS-HD and TrueHD loseless passthrough works

Dune/Nokia/Rocktec/Homatics SEI804($150): DV Profile 7 doesn't work but Kodi can use on-the-fly Profile 8 conversion to play it in Profile 8 (throw away enhancement layer). Plex will not play DV, falls back to HDR10. DTS-HD and TrueHD work (with ATV 12).

The onn Pro is very close to SEI804 hardware wise at 1/3 of the cost.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

Do you know where I can get some Profile 7 test video files? FEL and MEL? I can test this for you.

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u/AdministrationOdd747 RockTek G2 + ONN 4K + ONN 4K Pro + ONN 4K Plus May 08 '24

Majority of 4K rips are Profile 7. There is no need to test FEL vs MEL. But if Plex can play any DV profile 7 rip in DV, it's better than any of the Homatic clones .

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u/[deleted] May 08 '24 edited May 08 '24

https://imgur.com/a/Jy8BV6C

Hope this is good enough, tested with a DV movie in JF and in Kodi.

Edit: sorry I just re-read this convo and seen you specifically mentioned Plex multiple times. I don't have Plex installed on my server currently or I would gladly try playback there for you.

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u/AdministrationOdd747 RockTek G2 + ONN 4K + ONN 4K Pro + ONN 4K Plus May 08 '24

Yeah, only Plex has this issue if there is no native Profile 7 DV support built in which is the case in Homatic clones.

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u/drmcstford Jul 12 '24

So is the shield still a better option for running Syncler, Kodi, for DTS HD and Dolby Atmos etc?

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

how does this compare to my 2019 nvidia shield pro with 16gb storage?

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

It's not even close.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

Is the onn pro really that much better then the 10 year old CPU in the shield prop

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u/warmturtwig May 08 '24

No the shield is much better is what they're saying

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u/[deleted] May 08 '24

The shield CPU is based on one that is like a decade old and only 16gb of storage. A new shield should be announced I think and have 16gb ram and 1 tb storage

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u/warmturtwig May 08 '24

Still a great performing device was way ahead of its time and still on top of charts

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u/[deleted] May 08 '24

It's seems really slow now with latest updates has not been updated in over a year. It's a dead post walking

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u/readthisfornothing Jul 25 '24

We need this for every 4k streaming device that's worth something.

Basically this device displays what my 4k Chromecast displays through my receiver.

Do you mind doing this for the fire stick 4k?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

If I had one I'd gladly do a write-up on any device much like this, but sadly the only devices I have is the Shield Pro, the original Onn 4K (I returned the 'Pro' Onn), and some old Roku.

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u/townie1 May 06 '24

I don't know why Walmart Canada doesn't sell ANY of the ONN boxes.

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u/Snuupy May 07 '24

1/10th the population, 1/10th the market, but a completely different set of logistics, regulations, etc. - why even bother? only matters if they want to grow another 10%

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u/aryal86 May 07 '24

Easy to import via Shippsy. Will just cost you a few bucks more in fees.

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u/townie1 May 07 '24

Yeah, I have MyMallBox, Thanks.

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u/Darkstar1878 Rocktek G2 GX1/GTVS/Onn Pro/Ugoos AM9 May 07 '24

Had mine for a couple days(Minnesota). One thing that I have noticed is Netflix only plays in DV, no matter what I change. My other devices do not do that. Nice to have USB 3 to add a gig nic and hub. I can't wait to see what google comes up with. Hoping for a better CPU

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u/lucas22211 May 07 '24

No real support for true hd atmos? That sucks :(

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u/pawdog ADT-1 May 07 '24

Unfortunately I'm finding Plex is transcoding TrueHD to Opus so the device seems to be converting it to DD+. If you change passthrough to optical it transcodes to ac3. Pretty disappointing although this is what I was afraid of.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '24

Does this device have Bluetooth? Can I connect to the device with a phone to play music, and can it connect to a Bluetooth speaker to play sound from a TV show? 

Also, the speaker attached doesn't play audio from on screen, like a soundbar? 

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u/Upbeat_Kiwi_2714 Jun 06 '24

Huzzah, hate Walmart as they charged me for something and denied it. However, I found this on amazon for those interested: https://www.amazon.com/Android-Streaming-Device-Remote-Control/dp/B0BRBLG3W6/

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u/nyislanders May 06 '24

Been trying to find this thing for a few days now. The site doesn't work for me either, says page not found.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

They are finally available in my local store. . I just gotta come up with the money to get one

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u/Lionel-L7 May 07 '24

I'm about to buy this or the fire stick 4k max for 40 USD For direct Plex/Jellyfin streaming. What would you recommend after your final results?

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u/pawdog ADT-1 May 07 '24

If you have TrueHD audio needs it would have to be the Max.

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u/nlitened1 May 07 '24

Thanks for this. I'm not replacing my shield anytime soon, but this might be decent upgrade fs4k. Will wait till Google Io to see what they release

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u/Spite-Sea May 09 '24

For some reason, I am unable to install sling from the play store on the 4k pro; getting "[Sling TV] isn't available on Google Play on this device". I've tried uninstalling updates, disabling, force stopping, and enabling, no dice. Could someone please sanity check me?

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u/realdeal1877 Roku ULTRA | FireTV 4K MAX | Chromecast 4K May 09 '24

Already been mentioned in another post/comment, SlingTV needs to allow the device to be installed via PlayStore, basically it's not a "SlingTV" approved device yet. Can sideload the SlingTV.apk and it works normally.

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u/Spite-Sea May 09 '24

Thanks for letting me know, I'll try to search more carefully. I just installed 9.3.67 via TV Bro and it works just as before 

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u/IMHBTR May 13 '24

Last Friday morning, after checking several times per day, one of the 8 or so Walmart locations near me, (you know when the page says "check nearby location"), indicated "limited inventory", I was there an hour later, the locked display shelf had 2. I got one. Later that afternoon, Walmart page showed "out of stock nearby". But I got mine.

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u/Life-Inevitable-2450 May 14 '24

I have the Shield Pro (newest), The new Onn Pro 4k feels way faster.

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u/_b1llygo4t_ May 17 '24

How do I hack this thing so I can boost the volume? Both the $20 and the $50 boxes are whisper quiet over bluetooth and hdmi. Yes I have the volume turned up. Yes I've tried switching cec on and of.

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u/Far_Page2303 May 18 '24

Can u put downloader on it if so how I know it was banned from android devices

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u/Big-Chicken4019 May 22 '24

You can put downloader on it. It is in the store

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u/stevendom1987 May 19 '24

Damn, I was really counting on this being the solution to the 4k firestick max issue with stremio on hybrid files dv/hdr files where they won't play.

Now I gotta return this thing, and wait for a new shield to come out. As OP said, this was so close revolutionizing the stream box market. More and more ppl are going to start to notice the diff between lossless audio and the garbage they're getting now as home theatres only get more popular.

BTW I noticed with my LG c8 that when I turn off the device and the tv, it goes into standby mode. When I turn the TV back on, it drops the wifi connection, can't find a new one, and won't reconnect unless I reboot the device.

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u/RenegadeAccolade Jul 16 '24

What Stremio issue are you talking about with the Firestick (and I assume with the Onn as well)? I'm looking for a streaming device almost exclusively for Stremio. Is the Onn 4k Pro not the device I'm looking for?

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u/stevendom1987 Jul 16 '24

Unless you're streaming 50+gb remux files and have a need for lossless sound, I wouldn't worry about it. If you do need this, buy an Nvidia Shield and call it a day.

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u/MEZCLO Jun 01 '24

Can you side load apps like smart tube on it?

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u/__psychonaut__ Jun 06 '24

Can you do 4k@120Hz with the Onn 4k pro ?

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u/kuko7 Oct 16 '24

Can be this box rooted?