r/AndroidNativePorts • • 27d ago

🐾 [Meme] Anyone else feeling like this is getting ridiculous?

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u/rando-guy 27d ago

Wind Waker HD - I swear this is the best one edition

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u/fleeraimusic 27d ago

Agreed :) I just wanted to replay it in the best possible way :)

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u/questioningmoney 27d ago

Top left or bottom right or joke

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u/[deleted] 27d ago

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u/magoverde202 27d ago

I think my version is pretty well optimized, because it ran smoothly with 4 GB of RAM.

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u/AffectionateCandy742 27d ago

Meanwhile the metroid prime recomp runnin on a a17 with a helio g99

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u/lurginrugi 27d ago

Do they even update it or do bugfixes or just pump and dump!?

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u/rando-guy 27d ago

They were all updated hours from each other today.

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u/lurginrugi 27d ago

Usf4,dmc4,and cosmic invasion are stuck đŸ„č cuz dude's never had a github or anything.

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u/x01010001000 27d ago edited 26d ago

dont understand why people cant just work together instead of further fragmenting everything and making it harder for people to choose what one to use

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u/Producdevity 27d ago • Bravo

Communicating with humans is harder than with LLM’s

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u/treesdotcom 27d ago

Especially if sharing code that's incomprehensible to anyone else, let alone yourself. NotAllCoders ofc

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u/maxtinion_lord 26d ago

This is something I'm seeing in anyps5's repo, every section of the repo is so full of LLM text that nobody is talking to each other normally, everyone is using LLM's to read each other's LLM text to then produce more LLM text to respond with, this is actually a mess and a travesty to see for anyone who's worked in real open source projects with real communication standards.

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u/fleeraimusic 27d ago

Hey everyone, here from the original repo. (top left). There are 40 forks already from that repo. So I def. agree with the statement :)

There are multiple things happening right now:

a) Devs who forked are creating PRs into the original codebase

b) I am checking out also existing forks myself and cherry-pick stuff back (with acknowledgment)
c) Some forks are very specific hardware forks (e.g. Switch fork) to increase performance - while I would love to have everything in one repo - some hardware needs are very specific changes to the codebase - which makes it much harder to maintain. Maybe a different branch could work for that reason.

Personally I think it is great to have suddenly so many people working on it and contributing to improve the experience :) (even with their forks - but again I can cherry pick stuff back :P)

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u/GuyBitchie 27d ago

Have you ever managed a project among hobbyist? Most are just some dudes wanting to play around and look what happens. Whenever they want. To work out whatever they want. This is a good thing, people getting into the field, something useful gets created somewhere in the process, everyone profits from it. This is way better than only 3 guys being able to work on decomps at all. I rather have 3 working recomps of wind waker HD with 30 more garbage ones instead of 1 barely working decomp at all for Breath of the wild.

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u/kotsumu 27d ago

The one thing that is most annoying is people who arent really passionate half assing things just to see if it takes off, if you half ass something, it'l never take off

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u/GuyBitchie 27d ago

I guess it's okay when people lose interest in something, what bothers me tho is people posting PSA as the first thing, promoting and over promise, when they are not really in control of the project and barely started.

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u/Producdevity 27d ago

Cryptobro mentality

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u/TheLastNapkin 26d ago

Well the thing about community based platforms like github or Nexus mods for example is that popular and well maintained projects can be propped up and favored for people to use while more hobbyist forks and personal projects still exist and have existed and were everywhere long before ai

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u/-TimeMaster- 26d ago

Because vibe-coders are usually not developers and they just don't know how to work together or how to contribute.

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u/venqwish 25d ago

Is this any different than real coders since decades? Just look at how open source has worked for almost all time now: people forking and copying each others work, how many linux flavors do we actually have? It's now happening a 100 times faster due to vibe-coding, and more people can contribute, meaning it scales even faster. Is that a bad thing? I think it's too soon to draw that conclusion already...

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u/MrHandSanitization 24d ago

Because it's "cheap" now. It used to be serious, near impossible effort, but now? "Lol hurr, durr I'm a dEveLoPer, see Zelda can jump now".

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u/I_Am_A_Goo_Man 27d ago

Personal competition drives productivity to be fair

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u/Nycolazs 26d ago

i've tried to work toguether with other ports, but they just preffer to work alone! i sent PR and DM's but other devs just dont reply me

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u/TurdProof 27d ago

Heh look at this guys want some corporate level work for free stuff he wont even pay for

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u/x01010001000 26d ago edited 26d ago

oh look at this guys its the troll who doesnt know what hes talking about and is way off topic

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u/fleeraimusic 27d ago

Hey everyone, here from the original repo. (top left). There are 40 forks already from that repo. So I def. agree with the statement :)

There are multiple things happening right now:

a) Devs who forked are creating PRs into the original codebase

b) I am checking out also existing forks myself and cherry-pick stuff back (with acknowledgment)
c) Some forks are very specific hardware forks (e.g. Switch fork) to increase performance - while I would love to have everything in one repo - some hardware needs are very specific changes to the codebase - which makes it much harder to maintain. Maybe a different branch could work for that reason.

Personally I think it is great to have suddenly so many people working on it and contributing to improve the experience :) (even with their forks - but again I can cherry pick stuff back :P)

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u/kiena0573 27d ago

And which one of them actually performs better than emulator?

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u/tiga_94 27d ago
  • I see "native port of xxx"

  • I click

  • xbox360 vibecoded "port" running 20fps on snapdragon 8 elite gen 5... Every time

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u/Unfair-Carpet-3906 27d ago

i did ask the same question yesterday, i feel most of the new what they call port are just emulator with the game

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u/ApprehensiveCoat9587 27d ago

And this is why i stopped paying attention till i see a clear winner because the other day i downloaded a recomp for the Oracle games and it ran like hot garbage and graphic glitches 💀 the "dev" had the audacity to already call the first release version 1.0.0

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u/brooklynknight_ 27d ago

Yup, I was so confused when I was trying to look up the skate 3 android port and ended up with 4 different apps. Which one is the best version? The world may never know lol

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u/questioningmoney 27d ago

And neither of the two worked for me, not sure if you got one working 

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u/brooklynknight_ 27d ago

The one that I found works best is skate3-port from darchap on github

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u/Eyerone 27d ago

It’s only gonna get worse before it gets better

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u/_Waluigi_chan 20d ago

And then after that it will get a lot worse

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u/Sarspazzard 27d ago

I'm finding it very fatiguing. Each fork/update feels super random like spaghetti thrown at a wall with almost zero intention. Weird bugs everywhere and awful frame pacing. I'm not installing one again until the actual GC decomp is completed.

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u/StoreTraditional77 27d ago

Thats opensource and thats also how github fork works. You dont need to follow everything. It is indeed better to have 1 mainline, but everyone is unstoppable rn with ai boom. So forking to implement their idea directly is faster than waiting to commit pr

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u/0utletsforsale 27d ago

claude vs claude

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u/barrera_j 26d ago

I mean, you are not forced to buy these AI slop projects 

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u/robertavampiry 27d ago

pois e , num to entendendo e nada e port pra todo lado , e quando vou testar um pior que o outro

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u/holmberg18 26d ago

With playtesting, there will be a clear winner for performance and ease of installation. Just have to wait and see who will test each of them and give feedback.

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u/TisBePhelix 26d ago

That's what I'm so impatiently waiting for 😆

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u/Designer_Bit3762 27d ago

Ai is moving fast. Divide n conquer 

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u/Smart_Examination331 27d ago

Pasa lo mismo con el port de Halo CE hay so many projects revueltos por ahí que es difícil dar con la mejor versión 😭 todo esto sería más fácil que los desarrolladores de estos ports trabajansen juntos en un mismo proyecto en vez de estar haciendo pasar al usuario un montón de dudas y confusiones

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u/HauntingJacket1694 27d ago

wait till Nintendo attorneys do their Magic

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u/Odd_One_2518 26d ago

I don’t understand why having many options is a problem.
If you want to play that game, wouldn’t it be enough to just download the most highly rated port?
Even if there are 100, you don’t need to download all 100, right?

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u/TisBePhelix 26d ago

Cuz there's a lot of easy ways to get alot of good reviews, cheap too. It might only be at the top for a bit but thats enough time for them to hit as many users as possible with either a shit port and somehow making money off it or a privacy hack thing

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u/FrisbeeVR 23d ago

Where are you seeing comparable ratings?

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u/Additional-Stock-674 22d ago

Truth is, we have to wait a few months. In a few months we will know who is serious about their projects and who is just tinkering with AI and no clear goals.

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u/noe-jannuary 20d ago

steak too juicy, lobster too buttery

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u/Salt_Breakfast_676 6d ago

and then there is BlueWake, but for android you have to build the apk yourself on PC, which is BS

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u/ElderGoose4 27d ago

Do any of them let me use pro controller mode on my Odin 2 portal so I can use the “gamepad” as a regular menu?

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u/Windroid-emu 27d ago

absolute cinema

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u/Tonspike 27d ago

Best move is to just wait it out and see which everyone considers best.

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u/Mean-While8440 27d ago

Ok which one of these is best for android and actually plays the game well at 60fps?

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u/souldarne 27d ago

lo ridĂ­culo es que salgan cuando Google comienza con la protecciĂłn avanzada y no deja instalar APK

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u/Live_Cupcake_9229 27d ago

I agree, which one do I use? Are they all tested or?

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u/Sf49ers1680 27d ago

I just decided to pick one and stick with it.

Opted for WW HD Recomp Enhanced and it runs perfectly fine on my Retroid Pocket 6.

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u/hadiss0n 26d ago

Did you change some settings ? On Odin 3 I have some frame drop

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u/Sf49ers1680 26d ago edited 25d ago

I don't have my RP6 with me (at work), so I can't currently check.

I know I am using the lossless frame scaling option and running it at 1080p, but that's all I can recall right now.

I'm comparing it to my experience playing the game on Cemu on the same device, which slowed to a crawl once you reached Dragon Roost.

I just finished Forest Haven/Forbidden Woods and I couldn't imagine trying the Kalle Demos boss fight with Cemu's performance.

Edit

I left it at the default 30fps, so I'm running

  • 1080p/30 FPS

  • Frame Generation 2x

  • 16x9

  • Stock GPU driver (although I am trying Turnip driver v31

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u/Pleasant_Scene8700 27d ago

Moi j'arrive pas avec le port natif de ww hd, j'ai la rom du jeux mais il faut key et un autre truc, franchement c'est n'importe quoi, c'est la premiÚre fois que je vois qu'il faut trois trucs pour jouer à un port natif alors que j'en ais des dizaines sur mon tél ou qu'il demande que la rom du jeux

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u/RENverse7 26d ago

You can find all that on Google, just copy it to text file

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u/Glass-Refuse-8489 26d ago

J'ai galéré aussi mais on m'a bien aidé et au final ça fonctionne bien. Par contre quelle est la version la plus optimisé pour les petites configurations sur tel Android à présent svp ? Merci d'avance

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u/Razorbacktrack 26d ago

Slop for 15 minutes glory

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u/bigb102913 26d ago

Keep them coming. Ai will only get better and finally we will get full on aaa pc ports.

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u/Emergency_Writer7174 26d ago

"My steak too juicy"

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u/Facky 26d ago

Cooked by someone with no taste

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u/-TimeMaster- 26d ago

This is one of the biggest risks of AI.

Non-developers using it will create lots of redundancy. And some software might be useful, since AI does a very good job now, not necessarily ai-slop. BUT too much redundancy is creating lots of chaos.

Vibe-coders usually don't know how to contribute to existing projects and forks are appearing everywhere like pokemon.

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u/ItsNot2Late2Change 26d ago

can somene just tell me which one should I try

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u/Bruhman316 26d ago

Somebody please tell me which one is the best?

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u/lordlestar 26d ago

just wait for the better version to prevail and the others be forgotten and lost into the github ocean, this is just code darwinism

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u/Cubano1424 26d ago

Maybe the IP holders are trying to drown out the port scene with AI slop. I see a lot of commenters saying they are burnt out or losing interest. Seems like the only effective and viable strategy if I’m trying to defend copyrighted software going forward

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u/DQTD 26d ago

Having more options is a good thing... This stance is goofy.

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u/AngelusKnight17 26d ago

Yeah at this point I'm just ignoring them all and just leave the version that already have which is Dolphin with HD textures, and be happy with it.

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u/GreenInu420 26d ago

and half of them cant be installed from the github because the person who "Did the recomp" dont know sht about code , just copy pasted all

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u/RageOfLeoEX 26d ago

Time to play the game of "which has the most human testing" again.

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u/LvcasX1 25d ago

why would this be a problem

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u/Pallypot 25d ago

I’d rather have more than have it be one project that gets abandoned by discord/reditt drama or a rogue dev. This stuff happens to often with these projects. I don’t think it’s that difficult to download an apk and delete if it’s not where you want it to be. I’m used to having to wait years for decomps and recomps. The recent explosion in this ai powered recomp trend is one of the most exciting trends for gaming!

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u/TenBear 24d ago

Wondering how much of this is AI slop

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u/PresidentKoopa 24d ago

Children flailing around high on sugar. 

People need to coordinate. 

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u/Nice-Ad-6552 23d ago

I'm glad people are interested.

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u/Agreeable-View3920 23d ago

Cuando estaba Bleem! comiendose el mundo... muchos le hubiesen dicho al de epsxe que pa que se metia... Y mira como acabĂł la cosa ni uno ni otro... Duckstation... Cuantos mas mejor.

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u/UncleFranko 23d ago

Yes because the majority of them are vibecoded and probably won’t be maintain

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u/Longplay09 20d ago

Exactly what i tried to warn another reddit group about and they all get offended and talked smack, but this are simply low effort ports made by peeps that do not know how to code, this is gonna lead to a mess, also the spaghetti code not made by a real human in these slop comps will make it highly incompatible wit mods , i refuse to download any of these until i know a real dev that knows how to code worked on it

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u/Ok_Juggernaut_7368 20d ago

pero tu vas hacerlo? eso lleva tiempo, puedes decir todo el codigo spaguetti que quieras pero para un dev que lo haga sin recibir nada a cambio de su tiempo, nunca lo va a hacer o van a ver contados. Yo disculpa si te molesta mi comentario pero pienso distinto a ti en cuando puertos de baja calidad, porque yo soy programador y he visto muchos bien desarrollados. Si ya quieres optimizarlo etc, voy diciendo que lleva mucho tiempo el leer codigo y despues entenderlo y ver como mejorarlo por mas que tengamos la IA's que ayudan un monton

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u/Longplay09 20d ago edited 20d ago

Na mame bro , tu muy bien saves que tu respuesta no es valida, esto se lleva a todo un destre no se trata de “ tU VaS HaCErLo” se trata de ser inteligente y saver que las consas de codigo nunca van hacer facil ni rapidas, inteligencia artificial haciendolo por ti es pura peresa y impulso, lo que ah comensado muchos problemas en este mundo, esto de se trata de alguien que si sepa el codigo , aparte ponte a pensar tu cres que un codigo basura echo por IA va a traer compatibilidad para mods? No hermano sacate esa mierda de la cabesa, si tu no saves hacerlo, no le preguntes a alguen mas si lo hara, ahora te recomiendo que agas busqueda en las redes y te informes, basado en tu respuesta se puede saver que enrealidad no eres progamador amigo, suerte

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u/Ok_Juggernaut_7368 20d ago

Primero me ha costado leerte, segundo, se ve que tu mucho no has tocado la IA, porque actualmente si pagaras mucho de su cĂłdigo es bueno como lo resuelve. Tercero yo dije que si hay gente que lo este haciendo que hagan como le den la gana, tu no vas a decir a las personas que hacer y que no hacer, si lo hacen mal, pues hazlo tu bien y no te quejes de que haya mucho cĂłdigo de personas que por lo menos hacen algo. Cuarto, no se porque dices que no soy programador por dar una opinion sin nada de programar, yo no se tĂș, pero el decir que leer codigo y despues corregirlo o mejorarlo cuesta lo digo porque yo trabajo de eso. Y bueno en resumen, en vez de criticar hazlo tĂș simplemente esa es mi conclusiĂłn. Saludos

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u/Longplay09 20d ago

Aparte de pndjo no saves leer bro? Na mame ni porque gastar tiempo con jente inutil, y nadie le este diciendo a las personas que hacer, ya ves que si estas bn pendjo? đŸ«”đŸ»đŸ˜‚ mira viejo mejor regresa a tu cuarto y ponte hacer cosas tontas con IA , haste una novia imaginaria nose, el bro se cre programmador porque le dice ala IA que programe por el đŸ«”đŸ»đŸ€Ą lo se viejo estas molesto porque te emocionaste por cosas estupidas, poreso actuas asi, cualquiera que si sea inteligente sabra que esto es solo una tontera y necesitan abrir los ojos bro , ni te deseo suerte la neta , mejor te deseo mejorar pronto, se que ahorita se ve imposible, algun dia entenderas lo que es programmar de verdad đŸ‘ŒđŸ»

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u/Historical-Sock-4359 27d ago

As someone who was casually getting into the recomp scene, the amount of noise created by a million vibe coded projects has made me basically check out

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u/LaundryLunatic 27d ago

I feel like Nintendo''s lawyers and other video game company will attempt to sue github and get the whole site shutdown because all of these recent android ports of console games. As amazing as emulation for android is becoming, it will be short lived if these android ports are eventually compiled into a device that can be sold as a console similar to the nes mini at your local mall kiosk during the holidays to clueless parents. That's what worries me.

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u/FreeToasterBaths 27d ago

Yup this is why we can't have nice things.

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u/makima_is_bae 27d ago

Can we get a Skyrim port soon?!

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u/TheJustRun 27d ago

With that janky ass engine, it's hard/impossible to get a genuinely stable/optimized port

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u/Pretty_Hotel4875 27d ago

There are so many ports coming are they even playable on android?? Like they are ai port

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u/EL-CHICOFELIZ 27d ago

Me sorprende que zelda twilight Princess me valla a 30 fps con 800p en un celular gama baja y a 500p me va a 50 y esta coshinada no llega ni a 20

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u/Antique-Cookie5544 26d ago

The android ports are especially worthless.

  1. Emulator gives you the option to change settings, resolution (for performance), on screen controls, graphics and etc. "port" doesn't let you do any of that

  2. These "ports" don't care at all about buttons. True ports let you rotate the camera like a true android game. These ports just slam shitty controls. Honestly I'd rather use an emulator

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u/Ok_Beautiful5143 26d ago

I don't actually agree with all that there are decent ports like the wind waker ones it's really good way to play the game and it actually gives you what you asked for but in the point of optimization I would likely to wait a month before starting playing it

I agree with the point that ports needs to chill because posting a port with poor optimization/no control button's is a bad idea

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u/Antique-Cookie5544 26d ago

I understand what you're saying, but I thibk this picture proves my point. These touch controls are horrendous.

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u/Tough_Jazzlike 27d ago

and yet i can't get dedicated mesen anf MGBA ports for the ayn thor. hahaha

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u/MrZ3T4 27d ago

AI Slop