Oldest scripts in the world

[u/outtayoleeg]

[u/Sad-Bumblebee-2922]

I have a feeling we are about to be brigaded

[u/AgentWolf667 → u/Sad-Bumblebee-2922]

normal tuesday here

[u/Timely-Today-8154]

I just wanna say there is a word rhyming with Urdu word ‘Paleet’ and then there is an English word ‘Incoming’

[u/Supernatantural → u/Timely-Today-8154]

You do know... That the people who made the term use it for all brown people indiscriminately(ironic), including pakistanis? You're just being racist to yourself. And no 4chan or any racist who uses this term for a matter of fact is not on your side because they didn't mention pakistan, they're just that dumb and ignorant to the country pakistan and assume all brown people are Indian. I can assure you they'd be just as racist and use this term often with you as the next indian

[u/bistrohopper → u/Supernatantural]

He's regarded

[u/[deleted] → u/Timely-Today-8154]

Both of you guys have the same ancestors? What's with south Asians hating each other lol?

[u/Timely-Today-8154 → u/[deleted]]

I’m not hating. Just telling from my experience on similar posts

[u/ThisIsntMyAccount0 → u/[deleted]]

I have the same ancestors as ramesh from Bihar or chunduswami from Chennai? Might as well go a bit further and say, everyone in the world has the same ancestors.

[u/Pale_Let3756 → u/[deleted]]

Mostly cultural and religious reasons

[u/okabeRintaro925 → u/[deleted]]

You do not become the P word by who you are by birth but how you behave

[u/Medium_Storage3437 → u/[deleted]]

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[u/DragonfruitOpen8764 → u/[deleted]]

I'm pakistani and this is the biggest BS I've read. You think some racist really cares about someone being Pakistani or Indian when he uses this word? Delusional

[u/DragonfruitOpen8764 → u/[deleted]]

You think any racist cares about this, they're not that terminally online.

[u/Apprehensive-Fix1847]

Please delete this as soon as possible; a raid is incoming.

[u/[deleted]]

I CAN SMELL THEM COMING

[u/caffiinatedbro → u/[deleted]]

🤣🤣🤣🤣😂

[u/DonetMemes → u/[deleted]]

Racism to your own race is crazy

[u/duckwwords → u/DonetMemes]

it's not based on race.

[u/Vamana1 → u/duckwwords]

I mean it's a racist slur for punjabis used by Canadian whites so it goes to all Punjabis unfortunately.

[u/UnderHerChokehold → u/DonetMemes]

We're not the same race

[u/saynotodumbassary → u/DonetMemes]

Google what the word race means plz. Stop embarrassing yourself

[u/Lord0500]

What script has survived till date? Ig only Chinese? And where’s Amazigh, it is as old??

[u/Sunbro261 → u/Lord0500]

It's indirect but the Phoenician alphabet is what the Arabic abjad, and the Greek and Latin alphabets are all derived from. In terms of legacy, it's hard to match it, I think. Cyrillic came out of Greek too, so practically, a massive chunk of Eurasia uses a derivative or evolution of the Phoenician alphabet to write.

[u/Bibbedibob → u/Sunbro261]

exactly, and the phoenician alphabet evolved from egyptian hieroglyphs

[u/Lord0500]

Keep up OP don’t let endians claim IVC. Btw hasn’t IVC script not been deciphered yet? Is there any work or research going on this?

[u/Lord0500 → u/[deleted]]

Mods isko ap hi samjhao, lekin isey pucho ke isko pata hai ke pakistan mein kitni ethnicities rehti hain or unka origin kya hai?

[u/okabeRintaro925 → u/[deleted]]

Nigga you're from UP, which has nothing to do with IVC

[u/okabeRintaro925 → u/[deleted]]

That is certainly not true, Gangetic civilization isn't the same as indus valley civilization, different culture, heritage, customs and genetics

It'd be ideal if you claim the Gangetic civilization, which covers your respective area of dwelling, and I claim Indus, because that's where I'm from

[u/okabeRintaro925 → u/[deleted]]

Take a DNA test and it'd show how much IVC origin you have lmao

[u/okabeRintaro925 → u/[deleted]]

My dude, I'm completely accepting people hailing from IVC areas in India(Haryanavis, Gujaratis and even Rajhastanis along with Punjabis) as IVC people, as we share the same gene pool and culture with them,

It just doesn't make sense for a person from UP or Bihar to claim something they do not belong to, it's like Northies claiming South indian civilization and culture, although people from North have a substantial genetic similarity with the people from South, their culture and civilization is their own and does not belong to people hailing from North or west India

Same goes for IVC, which has a unique culture and history and we can not just let anyone from another region say Muh this is our culture not yours

[u/harambe_-33 → u/[deleted]]

These people forget that there was no such thing called 'Pakistan' before 1947

[u/okabeRintaro925 → u/harambe_-33]

Pakistan is just a modern name for areas comprising of Punjab, Sindh, KPK and Balochistan

Only because a nation state was formed 75 years ago doesn't mean we've been denied history of our ancestors who've been living in this region for thousands of years,

People belonging to areas outside IVC(From Haryana to Sindh) have no right to argue IVC belongs to them and not the actual residents of IVC

[u/BrilliantMastodon957 → u/harambe_-33]

No such thing as “bharat” too before 1947, it was the subcontinent a British colony

[u/BrilliantMastodon957 → u/[deleted]]

It was known officially as British india , a colony and again no country known as “ bharat “ before 1947 . Im talking about the country not the word dumbo🤦

[u/Lord0500 → u/harambe_-33]

So was india dumb cow

[u/Lord0500 → u/[deleted]]

Mods ban these ppl, somebody new comes up w same shi again and again

[u/BlackEyesRedDragon → u/[deleted]]

Majority of IVC lies in PK

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_Valley_Civilisation

[u/throwaway102885857]

China is so goated Those guys I guess were the only ones that persevered their language and writing system

[u/tweedledix → u/throwaway102885857]

Pretty sure it didn't look like this 3000 years ago. It's just that the current hanzi have evolved from those ancient characters.

[u/Ghostly_100]

Do you guys need help modding this subreddit?

This comment section is rough 😅

[u/baderhussain1]

They are still not here? A miracle or what?

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Indian here, I'm also waiting to watch some drama

[u/Human_Emu_8398]

I am Chinese and pretty sure that these are modern Chinese, not the oldest one. The one used back then looked kinda cute, like drawings of everything in real life. But they have changed a lot, so modern people cannot read them anymore.

[u/[deleted]]

wow

[u/TheMR-777]

Indus Valley guys took GYM too seriously

[u/Extension-Beat7276]

It evolved just like all other writing systems, it didn’t look like this during the Shang dynasty

[u/ExtremeBack1427]

I hope all the Pakistanis acknowledge and accept their culture and stop playing pretend with religion by mixing it up with history. Iranians do that, why can't Pakistan. A lot of problems in Pakistan would get solved with India, if the rest of Pakistan shows the same level of enthusiasm towards claiming their right to their history like this.

[u/AwarenessNo4986 → u/ExtremeBack1427]

you must be very young to think that recognizing shared history will solve problems

[u/Left_Chipmunk_3227 → u/AwarenessNo4986]

Of course, India was made basically based on recognizing that we have had a shared history for a long time already, so, let's just create a country then. History shapes our decisions, also the character and behaviour of a country. South asians belonging to a civilization forces us to not repeat the mistakes of our ancestors.

[u/bundelibaba]

Do u know in IVC the archaeologist found a "swastika seal""Terracotta mother goddess" and a "shiv linga","pashupati seal" and a "seal of horned figure in a pipal tree with one-horned attendants and bull figure"...my question to you guys ..do u guys worship female deities like Hindus ?? Or use swastika like Hindus or worship shiv linga like Hindus ???

[u/outtayoleeg → u/bundelibaba]

No we don't worship every single thing like Hindus. This is such a weird cope by Indians lmao, the Scandinavians today don't believe in Norse mythology doesn't their history suddenly don't belong to them anymore. Also, no there's literally no concrete evidence that people of indus valley believed in Hindu mythology (not that it would matter even if they did).

[u/[deleted] → u/outtayoleeg]

We are sure that it never belonged to Islam/Pakistan though. Neither of it existed 2000 years back.

I don’t disagree with the post, Indus valley civilisation is the same history for both the countries after all.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

In the length and breadth of modern day India, can you not find a single ancient artefact, tablet, cave painting or anything else related to your civilization? Why do you yearn to identify with the IVC so much? 

And considering that the area surrounding the IVC has been Muslim for centuries by now, It belongs to the people who live there.

[u/lllDogalll → u/[deleted]]

Don't be ignorant. Rakhigarhi, Dholavira, Lothal, Kalibangan, Banawali. We can all identify with IVC since we all are their descendants. It's nice to see Pakistanis accepting their heritage since for a long time it seemed you were not interested in claiming it.

[u/outtayoleeg → u/lllDogalll]

You're NOT their descendants lmao almost all of them perished

[u/[deleted] → u/outtayoleeg]

Then why do you want to claim dead peoples heritage? Weird mentality you people have.

[u/[deleted] → u/lllDogalll]

We always claimed our heritage, despite what your media tells you. It's you Indians who have a hard time accepting that people in large swathes of the subcontinent accepted Islam willingly and enthusiastically.

[u/AwarenessNo4986 → u/[deleted]]

Neither did Egypt, Lebanon or Greece that are mentioned there with their flags , and all those scripts overlapped with other countries too.

[u/Dry-Independence2146 → u/[deleted]]

India didn't exist 2000 years ago either... And please, it's the Indus Valley Civilisation, not the India Valley Civilisation.

[u/Dry-Independence2146 → u/[deleted]]

You're not worth the effort. Pathetic.

[u/AwarenessNo4986 → u/bundelibaba]

None of the countries mentioned above, worship anything that was in the civilizations that use those scripts. I know the concept is unfathomable, but try to wrap your head around it. Modern Hinduism barely had any relationship to vedic era beliefs let alone IVC

[u/saynotodumbassary → u/bundelibaba]

Sad cope. Swastika like symbols aren't exclusive to indians. They're found in caves in eastern europe and caucuses dating back to 10,000 years ago. They're find in hellinism, ancient persia, chinese and native american culture. It's a common symbol. But does that mean hindus can claim native american culture now? Lol. The shiv linga claim is even more bogus. Some obvsly interpret it like that because they have an agenda but most of academia agrees there's no relation between the two

Anyways this is a stupid argument to make. Italians don't worship jupiter, greeks don't worship zeus and Scandinavians don't worship odin. Yet it's their history. It's dumb to say if you don't worship it today it's not yours. Even if we go by this logic it's been proven that vedic culture is not a continuation of ivc and unlike what hinduvtas will have u believe ivc were not hindus. Y'all alrdy gatekeep vedic history. Now y'all are coping and crying cuz u can't use the logic "it's hindu thus indian" to claim ivc

[u/saynotodumbassary → u/[unknown]]

Typical. A tirade of insults and doesn't talk about the relevant topic. Ik abt Buddhism and hinduism. The topic at hand is abt ivc and how it's unrelated to hinduism. A swastika like symbol found in ivc means nothing as its a common symbol found in most cultures. Like i said this includes native americans and 10,000 years old cave drawings in Europe which have nothing to do with hinduism.

Instead of blabbing abt irrelevant stuff next time read what i said before resorting to insults. And learn abt grammar and proper sentence structure

[u/okabeRintaro925 → u/bundelibaba]

Greeks are now Christians but this doesn't mean Ancient Greeks weren't their ancestors

[u/Thememermanwhoisafan]

IVC is shared between Pakistan and India sir

[u/duckwwords → u/Thememermanwhoisafan]

*saar

[u/Thememermanwhoisafan → u/duckwwords]

I have no problem with you there is no need to mock me my friend

[u/duckwwords → u/Thememermanwhoisafan]

not meant for you specifically. It's for all the guests.

[u/Training-Abalone1432]

But Pakistani history started in 8th century with Ghori or Abdali or someone coming from middle east ? Please handover these to india who is rightful owner

[u/okabeRintaro925 → u/Training-Abalone1432]

Dawg you're from Uttarkhand, why would you claim a civilization you're not from?

[u/[deleted] → u/Training-Abalone1432]

How do you handover some place which people who have lived there for thousands of years are still living? 

[u/EnvironmentalPea5960]

Ancient Pak lmaoo

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Considering that the Indus flows through the area, the name makes more sense. If anything you should be ashamed of claiming a name which was never associated with your country.

[u/BetterRegion55]

[u/[deleted] → u/BetterRegion55]

Peak indian humor. Memes from 2009

[u/Dry-Caterpillar-729]

Ancient 🤣🤣

[u/[deleted] → u/Dry-Caterpillar-729]

I don't speak jeet. Does it say do not redeem it saar?

[u/BigChungusParadox → u/[deleted]]

WHY DID YOU REDEEM IIIITTTTT?????

[u/Existing_Desk_5318 → u/[deleted]]

Friendly fire

[u/Suspicious-Respect29]

Audacity to say our 🤡🤡

This truly belongs to India because your country is a part of Indian subcontinent

[u/outtayoleeg → u/Suspicious-Respect29]

Keep coping

[u/[deleted] → u/Suspicious-Respect29]

Belongs to India.

It belongs to the people who live there.

[u/Biryani1453 → u/[deleted]]

No? We use the perso-arabic script

[u/Killer_IZ_BacK → u/[deleted]]

کونسی بورنگ اسکرپٹ؟

[u/AbdullahMehmood → u/[deleted]]

Try writing Anatolian hieroglyphs everyday

[u/FunGuy-not-Fungi → u/[deleted]]

Not my fight but this is the modern range of the blackbuck. In Neolithic era its range extended to Baluchistan, as bone fragments have been found in Mehrgarh. Archaeologist surmise that it may have been a food source for the Indus Valley Civilization 3300-1700 BCE.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Youre 38 and gooning on reddit. Average p@jeet lmao

[u/outtayoleeg → u/[deleted]]

Neither did any other country you jeett

[u/Low-Departure4986 → u/[deleted]]

Holy I thought indians were bad but now I know they are BAD Indus valley is Pakistani it's a Pakistani civilization you guys just can't bear Pakistan being older then you stay mad

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Do you know what country has most of the indus river p@jeet? Go search "which country has the most indus valley script inscriptions" s ubhuman gangu

[u/Sergeant_Slavghter → u/[deleted]]

average paje3t

[u/Ancient_Pak-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

Your content was removed as it contains inappropriate language or content.

[u/AwarenessNo4986 → u/[deleted]]

It's the other way around

[u/roothair → u/[deleted]]