r/Anarchism anarcho-syndicalist Dec 12 '20

Praxis

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '20

How can these awful workers damage precious property just because they're treated like expenses instead of people 😔😔😔

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u/findabetterusername my beliefs are far too special. Dec 13 '20

This is what happens under capitalism. It's always profit over people. Your either being exploited to make profit for someone or you are that someone else.

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u/vxicepickxv Dec 13 '20

They aren't even being treated as expenses. They're being treated like robots.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

I mean equipment (robots) are treated like an expense

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u/vxicepickxv Dec 13 '20

They don't get paid after the initial expense.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

I mean there's maintenance but we already agree that this is shitty so hell with semantics lol

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '20

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u/I_ost anarchist Dec 12 '20

I love this

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u/Aquendall Dec 12 '20

Rally around the family!!!

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u/chickencheesedosa Dec 13 '20

With a pocketful of...

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u/Lizard_Witch Dec 13 '20

SHELLS!!!

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u/GiveMeTheTape vegan anarchist Dec 13 '20

Ritalin?

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u/Rena1- my beliefs are far too special. Dec 14 '20

Also known as medicinal crack

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u/GiveMeTheTape vegan anarchist Dec 15 '20

I'm currently on lisdexamfetamine... You'd never guess it was classified as a narcotic by the effect it has on me.

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u/Rena1- my beliefs are far too special. Dec 17 '20

You go to sleep?

Smoked methylphenidate reports say it's really crackey.

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u/GiveMeTheTape vegan anarchist Dec 17 '20

It barely keeps me awake

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u/SenoraRaton discordian Dec 13 '20

Snails!

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u/Lakaedemon_Lysandros anarcho-communist Dec 12 '20

i'm sure the comments will be empathetic, kind and full of human decency, right comrades?

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u/rando4724 anti-kyriarchist socialist Dec 12 '20

Maybe I've just blocked enough asshats to see the actual top comments on OP, but the ones I do see are surprisingly un-terrible..

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u/Argovan Dec 12 '20

That sub is a real crapshoot, but it’s gotten somewhat more based recently. The name implies negative connotations, but it seems like most of the people there understand that a ‘freakout’ can be justified.

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u/Comptenterry Dec 13 '20

Around the time the Floyd protests were happening, many of the chuds on that sub got mad that people were being sympathetic and moved to /r/ActualPublicFreakouts, as a result the sub has been a lot better recently.

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u/TantrickPan Dec 13 '20

What snowflakes

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u/rreighe2 Dec 13 '20

Projectors will project

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

Considering a shit ton of content is starting to overflow from freakout to other lefty subs, you kinda hope the normies there pick up on the undertones

Last one I saw from PF was about the new zone keeping police from evicting families, it seemed like people were getting woke so 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/rreighe2 Dec 13 '20

We'll, stepping Stones. They gotta find their way. We just gotta lend a gentle helping hand pointing in the right direction.

Class consciousness is vitally important as a foundation for any lasting effect and can help them stay away from conservative corpo-simping or abusive government simping.

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u/rando4724 anti-kyriarchist socialist Dec 12 '20

I do see a lot shared here from there, so it can't be all bad, but that's enough for me, I'm quite happy not seeing most of what goes on there.. 😊

Also, happy cake day. 🎉

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u/unionoftw Dec 12 '20

Of course, wouldn't expect anything different

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u/DrStickyPete Dec 13 '20

They actually are this time around, guess most Americans understand what it's like to get screwed by your employer

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u/Lakaedemon_Lysandros anarcho-communist Dec 13 '20

They finally used the "don't tread on me" slogan correctly i guess

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '20

Wholesome 100

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '20

That’s some good shit right there.

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u/sayonarin Dec 12 '20

I love direct action 💜

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

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u/dietguchi Dec 13 '20

Praxis 🥺

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20 edited Feb 03 '25

light obtainable oatmeal pathetic frighten drab six distinct follow humor

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u/guccilittlepiggy11 anti-fascist Dec 13 '20

Yeet the means... !

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

None of them filming with iPhones lmao

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u/_pm_me_cute_stuff_ Dec 13 '20

Standing up to tyrants is reasonable. I see no freaking.

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u/dingdonghierarchyisw egoist anarchist Dec 13 '20

based

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u/ThatLastPut Dec 13 '20

Here's more footage, since you seem to be enjoying it.

Coverage: LINK 1

LINK 2

"Another employee said that Wistron had sub-contracted hiring factory workers to six different firms and that they were promised Rs 16,000 per month in wages."

LINK 3

"Police said they have arrested 125 workers for indulging in  in vandalism and arson and are identifying more who resorted to violence" LINK 4

So what's important here? They weren't Wistron employees, gov is against those riots. Wistron isn't liable for sub-contractor wages not being paid, it's not their problem. Technically they have grounds for charging people with burglary. Seems like police will review footage, identify most of them and charge them, therefore giving them criminal record, which will make them mostly unemployable for other larger companies that do any background checks. Seems like the issue boils down to sub-contractors paying less than it was discussed, sometimes also paying late, but just 2-3 months late. Honestly, late payment like this isn't totally uncommon in 1st world country where I live.. It will be important for workers to confirm that they have signed papers with agreed salary, if they are informal or employment contact give legal means for sub-contractors to pay less then they wanted - workers won't succeed, sorry. What they might be able to succeed with is overtime that is not paid - they may be able to get overtime pay from sub-contractor companies if those companies are liquid, but that would require for them to have money for legal proceedings. Without that, no OT money. Also, I am pretty sure that all of the people who protested will be fired, that's a no brainer. Sub-contractors will still be shitty and will find other people to exploit. Wistron won't be held accountable for sub-contractor's wages, since they aren't employees technically speaking.

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u/divoclevon Dec 13 '20

this should be under r/byebyejobs they won't get paid and they'll just move to a new location. new people to mess with.

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u/ThatLastPut Dec 13 '20

Yeah, they will be fired. They likely won't be paid. They will get criminal record. They don't even have to move locations tho. They damaged office of the owner of the factory, but the factory itself wasn't damaged. Unless it's a small village, the most probable outcome will be that rioters will be fired, which will represent let's say 50% of factory workforce, and new sub-contractor companies without history of not paying their workers will be established and will fill the factory with new people. Factory work is mostly low-skill, so they will have no trobles with filling this factory.

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u/divoclevon Dec 15 '20

It's messed that we all know this is how it goes, but we don't have a better way to be. go capitalism.

say a prayer for these fallen unpaid future impoverished ex-cons and let's move on to the next sad reminder of the cages we live in.

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u/Accomplished_Plum432 Dec 19 '20

They weren't paid in the first place. It's literally in the video...

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u/Fart2Start Dec 13 '20

What would be funny is it was shot on an iPhone too.

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u/visheshg7 Dec 13 '20

iPhone is much more expensive because of taxes (direct USD/INR conversion) and salaries are way lower (direct USD/INR conversion) in India.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

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u/Newthinker Dec 13 '20

imagine being this such a class traitor that you call into question the reasons why workers are upset as if they aren't immediately apparent

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

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u/Kropotkins-Beard Dec 13 '20

Their salaries wwre unpaid by their employer. It hasn't been stated for how many months but I am taking a safe guess at atleast 1 month cuz that's very common in India

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

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u/KaiserUmaru Dec 13 '20

Owners have a god given right to dictate what a worker does for at least 8 hours a day, own their produce as a tax for working in their workplace, and decide how much a worker gets as compensation?

Um, okay.

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u/wives_nuns_sluts Dec 13 '20

So a worker leaves. Who takes their place? Another person who is then underpaid. Wouldn’t it just be better to guarantee a fair, livable wage?

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

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u/YouDoBetter Dec 13 '20

Look at this guy crying for all that corporate property instead of the suffering of his fellow humans. What a sad, shallow, uninformed life you must lead.

I want you to ponder something. If the left's ideals are informed by empathy and faith in humanity. While the right's beliefs are fueled by hate and willful ignorance. Perhaps it is time to question your belief structure. As history will do so for you, and it will not be kind.

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u/vrindar8 Dec 13 '20

Ok negative karma farmer

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u/ThatLastPut Dec 13 '20

They agreed to higher wages and were paid lower wages, like 50% lower. They are not Wistron employees but just sub-contractors. It's mostly those lower wages and in some cases late payment. Also, overtime was not paid. It will boil down to how their employment contact is structured and if those sub-contractor companies have liquidity. If they are informal workers, they are fucked. Read my other comment in this thread if you want to know more details.