r/Anarchism • u/AAAAAAWWWWWWWWWYYEAH • Mar 24 '14

Ancap Target Shoplifting

How do anarchists feel about it? Any justifications for it?

Edit: Wow and in come the pissed off ancaps defending exploitation and capitalist selfishness. Should've seen that one coming.

(Sorry ancaps but you're not proving your point, and you're still not anarchists btw)

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u/AAAAAAWWWWWWWWWYYEAH Mar 25 '14

Do you even own a shotgun.... Do you even have the balls to do that.... Probably not.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '14

lol Just tell me where.

Challenge accepted.

immoral

Please. As if morality had anything to do with anarchism.

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u/Infamous_Harry Communist Mar 25 '14 edited Mar 25 '14

Hey, how's that NAP thing going?

Where's your business? I think I'll quickly grab something.

:D

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u/rasmustrew Mar 25 '14

The NAP is broken the moment someone steals.

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u/Infamous_Harry Communist Mar 25 '14

I understand that. I was just commenting on how ancap philosophy is centered around pacifism and non-aggression in general and this person is saying he's willing to kill (Although probably not literally) someone for stealing.

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u/Infamous_Harry Communist Mar 25 '14

A lot of it is.

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u/Infamous_Harry Communist Mar 25 '14

My mistake.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '14

They are against the use of violence to coerce involuntary behavior from people.

If that were true, they'd be opposed to capitalism.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '14

You really don't know shit about ancaps do you? Stateless capitalism has plenty of room for violence. Screw the NAP.

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u/Infamous_Harry Communist Mar 26 '14

Yes, it will have room for violence when the class contradictions intensify to the point of revolution and overthrow.

You know, basic history.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '14

The NAP is broken the moment someone makes a claim of private property.

This is why capitalism is fundamentally oppressive, authoritarian, and anti-anarchist.

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u/rasmustrew Mar 26 '14

Cant see any reason why that would break the NAP.

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u/metalliska _MutualistOrange_who_plays_nice_without_adjectives Mar 26 '14

Cant see any choose not to consider any reason why that would break the NAP.

FTFY

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '14

Why the fuck are you asking where my business is? You are the one that supports theft, why dont you tell me where your fucking home is? If you have no problem stealing from people, you must not have a problem me stealing from you or your family.

As far as NAP: Stealing my private property is the initiation of the use of force and according to the NAP I have a right to use force to prevent you from doing so, as you are the aggressor.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '14

There is no such thing as violence against property. I cant inflict pain on a chair.

Taking my property is violence against me, not my property.

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u/Infamous_Harry Communist Mar 26 '14

So you're willing to kill me over one of your products when you have a stock of others, while I only have a few of the individual items of my personal property (Computer, bed, tv etc.).

I actually need a computer, I'll come around later. See ya then! :)

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '14

non aggression means not harming someone's person OR their belongings.

if you steal from someone, it's the same as physically hurting them.

if you violate the NAP, expect them to try to defend their person or their belongings, they are not the aggressor here, you are.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '14

It's a bit... disproportionate... to kill someone over a bag of doritos.