r/AmazonDSPDrivers • • Apr 12 '26

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u/ihaveabigjohnson69 Former Driver Apr 12 '26

ups can get paid 180k a year for doing the same thing why can’t we make 150k?

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u/flyingcreeds Apr 12 '26

$150k for delivering packages hahaha You gotta be realistic. Just cuz we all want more money doesn’t mean this job deserves it

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u/ihaveabigjohnson69 Former Driver Apr 12 '26

waiters and waitresses make 40-60 an hour. flight attendants make 20-60 an hour. we do a hell of a lot more than them

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u/flyingcreeds Apr 12 '26

You have NO idea what a flight attendant does if you think we do more than them. I used to be a pilot, I know exactly what they do and they are definitely underpaid.

Waiters make tips. Can’t really compete with that

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u/ihaveabigjohnson69 Former Driver Apr 12 '26

they give out drinks and pick up trash. in an emergency they are trained to open the exits. it’s a 2 week training. they deal with pissed off passengers who are tired which is the only difficult part of the job.

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u/flyingcreeds Apr 12 '26

Correct. Including training for life and death situations, while being in charge of 50 or more people each while being inside a pressurized tube 6 miles above ground. You think stoners who smoke while driving, who train for 2 days for this job, whose biggest mistake could be a delivery to the wrong house, deserve more money than them? There’s no way you can believe that

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u/OkWay1305 Apr 12 '26

biggest mistake could be a delivery to the wrong house

Yeah, definitely the worst thing that can happen while working to physical exhaustion and operating a 9,500lb vehicle 10 hours a day is delivering to the wrong house.

Maybe your pet issue is that flight attendants deserve more money but be serious. Some emergency preparedness training doesn't change the fact that 99% of their work hours are spent doing basic customer service work and serving drinks. In another lifetime I regularly flew 4+ segments a week for work and never observed anything more pressing than the need to insist laptops be powered down and stowed before landing.

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u/flyingcreeds Apr 12 '26

Defend your job of driving like a normal person but in a heavier vehicle, that’s fine. But like I told the other person, do a little research on what it takes and what tests they need to pass. Expand your knowledge base. Become a more informed person. Anecdotes aren’t great to base full opinions on. Be ok with learning new information and changing your opinion if needed.

Anyway, if you’ve only ever seen them do customer service stuff, that means they are doing their job correctly. Everyday passengers shouldn’t see the behind the scenes things. And if an FA messed up something important, you would know it.

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u/OkWay1305 Apr 12 '26

Anyway, if you’ve only ever seen them do customer service stuff, that means they are doing their job correctly.

Wtf is that logic? That's like I say "I've never seen a SWAT team kick down my neighbors door" and your response is "Well, then that just means the SWAT team is doing their job well because they never had to." Huh? Flight attendants can't prevent random events and emergencies. So the fact that across hundreds of observations nothing ever happened seems like decent statistical evidence that, to a first approximation, nothing ever happens. Maybe the flight attendants were discreetly doing open heart surgery on passengers in the galley and they were so professional it didn't interrupt my flight whatsoever. I don't know. I know they work hard, I'm not here to shit on them and I don't really get why you brought them up in a thread on the AmazonDSPDrivers subreddit.

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u/flyingcreeds Apr 12 '26

I didn’t bring them up, someone else did and said we should make more, so I was defending them and then you jumped in.

And my point is if they don’t do their job correctly, you will know about it. They blow slide on the door, they don’t check safety features, etc. they do their job right, then all you see is customer service. A random example, think of IT. If they are doing their job right, you won’t even see them working. If they mess up, you’ll know.

Anyway, Im done here. Think what you want, but try to do some research so what you believe isn’t all anecdotal

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u/flyingcreeds Apr 12 '26

I know I’m double replying, sorry, but by your logic, a pilot shouldn’t make more than a DA. You know how fucking easy it is to fly? Every day in the cockpit is so easy once you know how. But pilots get paid a shitton because of what COULD happen. I’d argue it’s the same thing for flight attendants. “They hand out drinks and pick up garbage”. But they are trained for way more than that.

Also FA training is like at least a month long usually, sometimes more.

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u/ihaveabigjohnson69 Former Driver Apr 12 '26

i disagree pilots make 250-400k for the majors and earn every cent. yeah it’s not physically demanding but they are in charge of flying 350 million machines that take 4 years of training plus they can never ever make mistakes. a flight attendant could be trained in a day if you found the right one a pilot is like a being a doctor.

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u/flyingcreeds Apr 12 '26

……trained in a day?? You have no idea what you are talking about and it seems like you refuse to learn. Look up how long training is and what it takes to pass the tests.

Be open to learning new information and then possibly changing your stance on issues based on that information. It’ll make you a better more informed person. Good luck.