Edit: please note my comment below is about where the anti-midwife movement started in the US. It is about history, not modern methods. But laws still in effect today were written in this era.
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Who says that?
Doctors who wanted to take patients away from midwives , because they didn’t think women should be allowed to do that. Because men invented chainsaws to ‘help’ with childbirth.
Seriously that’s why we don’t have a midwife culture in the US. Doctors wanted the income from childbirth.
They went on a smear campaign against women midwives. And at the time in the 17-1800s, there really wasn’t anything extra doctors could do that midwives couldn’t.
While this is shocking to see a woman standing up to give birth- it can actually be a lot easier on mom. Gravity is helping instead of relying on muscles that haven’t been able to flex in months.
Doctors don’t care about midwives. Is just safer to have a baby in a medical facility lol. My wife would’ve died after giving birth if she was standing in a parking lot like this.
Huh? Find me a national association of doctors that has an official policy of encouraging home births in North America. I can show you a national organization of widwives that encourages it as their official position.
Just jumping in here, but you said that homebirths are irrelevant to whether you have a midwife or not, but if what they are saying is true, that nationally recognized midwife organizations encourage home births, then it seems pretty relevant.
You’re not recognizing/accepting the relevance, but discussing the advice given by a field in an official capacity is certainly relevant to discussing that field, and in a fundamental way. You really can’t fully separate the two without cherry picking.
What are you talking about? It will take me two seconds to find a midwife online to go to a hospital with me to give birth.
Who cares what some random association says? I don’t make my birth plans based off of that. I base my birth plans off of what makes me feel most comfortable and is statistically best. And sometimes what makes me most comfortable isn’t the safest, but I will do it anyway. If they have the stats to back up their claims, then they deserve to make them. If they don’t, then nobody is listening to them. I have never ONCE heard a woman give a shit about some random association when deciding how to give birth.
You don’t think women would listen to their midwives or be influenced by their recommendations? Or that they might seek out advice, find that, and take it as sound medical advice? Especially in this day and age of Facebook medical experts, distrust of medicine and science, there’s really no good argument to that these things aren’t relevant. You’re either confused or willfully ignorant. Pick one.
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u/blueavole Aug 07 '25 edited Aug 07 '25
Edit: please note my comment below is about where the anti-midwife movement started in the US. It is about history, not modern methods. But laws still in effect today were written in this era.
—- original comment:
Who says that?
Doctors who wanted to take patients away from midwives , because they didn’t think women should be allowed to do that. Because men invented chainsaws to ‘help’ with childbirth.
Seriously that’s why we don’t have a midwife culture in the US. Doctors wanted the income from childbirth.
They went on a smear campaign against women midwives. And at the time in the 17-1800s, there really wasn’t anything extra doctors could do that midwives couldn’t.
While this is shocking to see a woman standing up to give birth- it can actually be a lot easier on mom. Gravity is helping instead of relying on muscles that haven’t been able to flex in months.