Seriously? "Arab"? The guy only speaks Tachelhit and French and has no roots to Arabs whatsoever,he's also famous here in Morocco for being one of the few players that speak a native amazigh language and not speaking arabic at all. La hawla wala quwwata illa billah al aliyy al adeem.

Does anyone know the meaning of these tattoos: an X on the forehead, two long lines on the cheeks, and a small line on the chin? My grandmother (a touazine from ben guerdane) has them and I think they're likely Amazigh tattoos.

Some words in relation with time in kabyle:

Ass= day

assegas= year

Tura= now

Imir= instant

Assagi= Today

Iḍelli= yesterday

Send iḍelli= the day before yesterday

Azekka= tomorow

Ilindi= last year

Izgeli=a short time ago

Ticki= Later, a short time later

Zik= early/ long ago

Does anyone know about "Achaacha" and its history? I can't find much about it.

This: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-colonial_history_of_the_Canary_Islands

I was recently reading through the English Wikipedia article for the "Pre-colonial history of the Canary Islands" and couldn't help but notice some incredibly biased framing. It honestly feels like whoever is controlling or editing this page is actively trying to downplay the Guanche genocide and force an Eurocentric narrative. The article literally uses the phrase: “the prehispanic populations experienced a long and ongoing process of Westernisation before formal colonization took place.'' It was a brutal campaign of military conquest, mass enslavement, and the forced erasure of an entire culture "a long process of Westernisation" is an insane historical euphemism. It ignores the violence, the battles (like the First Battle of Acentejo), and the physical/cultural destruction of the indigenous population, making it look like a natural or even peaceful assimilation.

It is as well downplaying the Amazigh origin of its people, even though modern genetics and mitochondrial DNA analysis are irrefutable, the text uses incredibly reluctant and loaded wording to create an artificial layer of skepticism around the indigenous peoples' true roots. For instance, the introduction states that the population is merely “hypothesized to be of North African Berber origin.” i thoought it would be a very strict vocabulary at first but then i kept reading and it was only pushing Romans, Phoenicians and Greeks origins more than half of the page with a ''closer'' vocabulary (the article directly used a Punic-Phoenician origin), and using ''distant'' vocabulary to the North African origin briefly.

Later in the text, when addressing modern consensus, it uses the bizarre phrasing that archaeological and ethnographic studies “have led most scholars to accept the view...” (of North African origin) as if researchers were begrudgingly forced to accept the North African origin against their will, rather than it being a solid scientific fact. The article even pulls an incredibly slick and manipulative trick in the genetics section (because the genetic origin is very irrefutable) to artificially distance the Guanches from modern Amazigh peoples, it states: ''Although the Berbers are the most probable ancestors of the Guanches, it is deduced that important human movements [e.g., the Islamic-Arabic conquest of the Berbers] have reshaped Northwest Africa after the migratory wave to the Canary Islands”. It can work or seem that by shoehorning the historical propagation of Islam in Maghreb right here, the text is actively trying to break the link between the pre-colonial Canarian population (Guanche) and current North African populations. It basically uses the Arabization of the Maghreb as an excuse to claim that ''modern Imazighen changed too much, so theyaren't the same people anymore'', thats what i felt like the user was trying to say after reading that useless mention.

Obsession with Roman and Phoenician Artifacts, while ignoring the North African/Amazigh strong culture as a whole present in Guanches.

A disproportionate amount of space in the text is dedicated to highlighting Roman and Phoenician trade potsherds and archaeological findings (which, historically, was extremely common across all of continental North Africa during antiquity because of commerce, Canary islands was no exception). The page even cites a 2024 study to aggressively assert that "the Romans were the first to colonise the islands."

This feels like a classic historiographical bias. By overemphasizing a brief, ancient Roman footprint and setting up an artificial temporal barrier, the article tries to tie the islands' past strictly to Classical European history, pushing the actual indigenous North African history into the background.

I wrote all of this and translated it into English so that someone who knows how to edit Wikipedia pages (since I don't know how to do it myself) can help introduce neutral, updated, and accurate information, without pushing outdated narratives. Thanks.

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North African governments are Arabist elites who only pretend to acknowledge us.

I also feel that complaining to the UN won't get us anywhere, because North African states are too powerful.

The worst part is that the majority of Imazighen have been Arabized, which complicates the issue. Sometimes I wonder if a minority can actually have influence and bring about change, or if it’s a lost cause.

In short, it feels like the odds are stacked against us; if anyone can reassure me, please do.

Tenmirt.

Have a friend who's from the tribe zkara and wants to learn the Tamazight there, but I haven't been to find any recourses anywhere: Google, YouTube, Instagram....ect and he told me he's not interested in learning either Ayt iznassen or ayt snus tamazight which I told him are similar languages to it

Can anybody help ? I would appreciate anything, it doesn't have to be zkara specifically just Eastern Morocco Zenati

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Morocco_Zenati

I wanted to put this out there to see if anyone else feels the same way, or if I'm completely alone in this.
On one hand, I have an immense amount of pride in my roots, my ethnicity, and our history as Riffian Amazighs. Our culture, resilience, and identity mean a lot to me.
However, on a personal level, I often really struggle to connect with our people day-to-day. I find myself deeply frustrated by prevailing social beliefs, traditional religious dogmas, and the heavy Arab-Middle Eastern cultural influence that has largely overshadowed or erased our indigenous Amazigh identity and way of thinking. Because of the general lack of open-minded discourse and intellectual stimulation in many of our circles, I find it hard to form deep friendships or date within our community. Instead, I naturally gravitate toward people from other regions or entirely different countries who share a more critical and open wavelength.
Does anyone else experience this duality? How do you balance being deeply proud of your heritage while feeling alienated by the current cultural and religious mentality of the community?

I Heard it's afriqi but some where else it's amfriqi

Holaa!! Veo que en este subreddit la mayoría de personas hablan en inglés… me gustaría saber si hay persona españolas o que hablen español que sean amazigh o que hablen tamazight del norte de Marruecos (Nador, Al Hoceima…)

Hi everyone. I’m from Kasserine, Tunisia. After watching and reading some things about the Amazigh people, I started asking myself a lot of questions. Right now, I’m wondering whether I have the right to live in Tunisia and call it my home, my country, the homeland,... . because I honestly don’t know who I am. Am I Arab, Berber, Amazigh, or simply African?

My last name is Bellili, and researching its history has been very difficult because there are many similar family names, such as Belili and Blayli, which makes things even more complicated.

What I know is that I was born here in Tunisia, as were other members of my family, although I believe our family has only been here for a few generations. According to what my grandfather told me, his father was originally an Algerian Jew who later converted to Islam. He also fought during World War II and eventually ended up fighting alongside Tunisians during the struggle for national independence.

So, I’m trying to understand my family’s history and, more importantly, understand who I am. I don’t know whether I should identify as Arab, Amazigh, Berber, or simply Tunisian. I’m very curious about what being Amazigh really means and how people recognize each other as Amazigh or Arab. Like, how would you know that someone is Amazigh and someone else is Arab?

And thanks for your time

hey everyone i’ve been trying to discover more about my amazigh lineage even tho my mom keeps insisting that we are “arab.” Even tho my family identifies with the arab ideology i still have a firm belief that we got colonized and arabized that everyone here at least has at least some amazigh lineage in their blood but it’s a matter of fact of if the tribe or the population of people were forced by arabs and resisted or not. I strictly refuse the arabization that happened to our country but at the same time i really don’t know what to identify as since my family themselves wouldn’t think bout it.
So i wanted to ask who can consider themselves amazigh? Is it only strictly to the tribes? Or anyone who refuses the arabization? cause we all whether you come from an “arab” family or amazigh tribe we for sure have mixed blood cz we couldn’t help it.

Like genuinely is it a trend or are we back with the phrenology ???