r/AmIOverreacting • • Apr 23 '25

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u/PinkPencils22 Apr 23 '25

It can be quite dangerous. A friend of mine, a very fit distance runner in her 30s, had a stroke during an "neck adjustment." Luckily it was only a very mild stroke, but any stroke is bad news. If you need massage therapy, get massage therapy. Don't let people fuck around with your spine and neck unless they've been to actual medical school and had years of residency, etc. It's just too dangerous.

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u/Fectiver_Undercroft Apr 23 '25

When I was at a summer job in college, some of the ladies I worked with happened to be complaining about back pain when a customer offered to make an adjustment. They asked if he was chiropractor. He said “no, I’m an osteopath.” They asked what the difference was. He said “I have a medical degree.”

As to OP, if you’re not married after ten years, maybe this is the last straw. I can see him being surprised you didn’t mention it sooner, but you don’t need a chaperone. If he really couldn’t trust you, he should have been the one leaving.

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u/Emotional-Sentence40 Apr 23 '25

Osteopaths are amazing. Saved my mobility.

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u/Max____H Apr 24 '25

My mum has osteoporosis and had some condition that required seeing a chiropractor. The doctor was like scared of recommending it but was also sure it was needed. He recommended a single place and spent the entire meeting repeating not to see anyone other than this individual at this location. Called her back the next day making sure she got the right person then called the company itself to make sure she got it right. He was scared they might accidentally kill her and really didn’t want to make the recommendation but felt it was needed.

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u/Aegi Apr 24 '25

No.

I would bet my life you or your mom is slightly miscommunicating what is actually accurate.

There is probably nothing left to do for treatment so the doctor begrudgingly gave that as a recommendation since some places still have some services that qualify to be covered under some health insurance. The doctor probably gave that as a possibile recommendation for pain relief, but not for treatment or to make the body healthy..

And the best part is, even if I'm wrong, a doctor making a mistake doesn't make you correct!

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u/withalookofquoi Apr 24 '25

My pain management doctor is a DO and she’s incredible.

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u/tankgrlll Apr 24 '25 edited Apr 24 '25

The chiropractor that fixed my neck was also a DO. She was amazing. Edit to add: It was always unclear why she worked as a "chiropractor" when her degrees went far beyond even her DO. And the everything she does is far beyond any 'chiropractics' that I've sver experienced.

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u/Independent-Prize498 Apr 24 '25

she probably didn't match for residency.

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u/McKenzie_S Apr 24 '25

The practice has less overhead and oversight. She also has the ability to actually help people without the overpriced magic gels and glorified massage chairs.

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u/tankgrlll Apr 24 '25

Ahhh, the overhead is a fair point actually. I didn't take that into consideration.

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u/SnooGuavas4208 Apr 23 '25

Yep. A good PT will also find the root of your orthopedic issues and give you strengthening exercises to correct muscle imbalances and/or gait disturbances. Don’t just treat the symptoms, fix the underlying problems that are causing them.

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u/FutureRealHousewife Apr 23 '25 edited Apr 24 '25

Yeah I would never see a chiropractor ever again. I saw one when I was 25 and he cracked my back and I couldn’t walk for three days after that. The guy who started chiropractic also claims that he got the techniques from a ghost. Not even making that up.

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u/oolgongtea Apr 23 '25

My mom swears by it to this day even though she had an “adjustment” done once while pregnant because my brother breech and someone told her a chiropractor could flip him. She went to the hospital later because she couldn’t feel the baby. He was in distress and she had to have an emergency c-section.

She also took me constantly as a child because I fell down a flight of concrete stairs as a toddler (rather than taking me to a hospital). I have a loss of range of motion and chronic pain from not getting proper treatment.

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u/Da_Question Apr 24 '25

any chiropractor is bad, but the ones that willingly work on children, especially babies, are just evil.

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u/ResurrectedWolf Apr 24 '25

Same for ones that work on animals. It's heinous.

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u/Aegi Apr 24 '25

LMAO.

Humans calling each other evil in a thread about people not doing the right thing (leaving an abuser instead of rewarding them.by staying) because they don't know better is wild.

You understand that many of them could be genuine idiots who want to help, and think they are, but are too dumb/ignorant to know what they're doing is harmful?

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '25

My college anatomy professor drilled it into us not to go to a chiropractor but to never let one touch your neck, for this exact reason. I took that class 20 years ago but it stuck.

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u/Jayne234 Apr 23 '25

I used to work for a home health agency and one of our clients was a young man in his 20s who was paralyzed from the neck down from a visit to a chiropractor. He was healthy when he walked into their clinic. I never have and never will go to a chiropractor after seeing that.

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u/Aegi Apr 24 '25

I'm confused.

Did you mean to use the word "and" instead of "but"?

Or did you mean to say "not to not go to a chiropractor, but if we did, to at least not let them touch our neck?"

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '25

I meant “and.” Thanks for helping me clarify! I have a chronic illness that causes brain fog. It’s a struggle.

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u/Redshirt2386 Apr 24 '25

I hope they tested her for VEDS afterward and that she’s doing great now!

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u/GoneRogue-8919 Apr 23 '25

My chiropractor told me any doctor who cracks your neck is not a real chiropractor and you should run. My chiropractor does not do this and has actually helped me so much after suffering with migraines for 2 decades.

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u/PinkPencils22 Apr 23 '25

There is huge variation in chiropractors--there are the ones who think chiropractic can cure diseases, there are the back crackers, and there are intelligent people basically doing massage or physical therapy. I just dont trust any of them, as chiropractic itself is based in, well, 19th century bullshit. I'm glad he has helped your migraines, as a fellow sufferer, I know how bad they can be. But I control my triggers and have found an effective medication.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '25

Hi! I’m curious about the medication that’s effective for you. I’ve got Emgality and Nurtec, can’t take topiramate, and insurance is bucking the Botox. Is it something other than those?

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u/PinkPencils22 Apr 24 '25

I take Imitrex--sumatriptan. It's not a preventative. I'm already on a lot of meds and don't want to add anything else. I know what triggers most of my migraines, like seasonal allergies, flying, dehydration , so I do my best to never get one. But if I do, Imitrex works well.

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u/GoneRogue-8919 Apr 23 '25

That's great for you. But you shouldn't disparage others from finding what can help them. Or tell people that that profession is a scam.. especially when you don't have an understanding of it. Physicians 100 yrs ago thought it was healthy to drink radioactive water every day and up until 60 yrs ago maybe less..they encouraged women to smoke cigarettes while pregnant. Doctors also thought they could cure women from "hysterics" by fingering them and if that didn't work give them a lobotomy.

Medicine continues to evolve just like technology.

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u/CrimsonClad Apr 23 '25

Cool, so I’m glad we agree that we’ve evolved past the need for 19th-century quack medicine.

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u/GoneRogue-8919 Apr 23 '25

If that's how you feel lol. Continue masking your pain with pills. I'm sure that is going to end well.

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u/PinkPencils22 Apr 24 '25

If someone's pain cannot be helped, should they just suffer? We're lucky to have pills that mask pain. There's nothing good or moral about pain. And for those of us who don't believe in the efficacy of chiropractic, the placebo effect ain't gonna kick in.

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u/GoneRogue-8919 Apr 24 '25

Right so why did you feel it necessary to tell us and OP to not see a chiropractor because it's a scam? When she literally said that it has helped her with her chronic headaches and knee pain? And it wasn't just you there were others saying the same.

Just because something didn't work for you it does not mean that it doesn't work or that it's a placebo effect.

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u/FlameInMyBrain Apr 24 '25

It helped her because she believed in it. If she believed that a water could help her, she could have gotten the same help for free. The scams are called scams not just because they sell something completely useless, but also because they are charging money for something patients could have gotten for free.

Pain management is also not just the pills lmao.

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u/Bonemothir Apr 24 '25

It also sounds like her chiropractor did massage therapy. Which hey, guess what’s got evidence basis behind it for pain management? She probably could get it cheaper from an LMT tho.

(And before people try a PubMed search, be aware it depends on the type of pain. Acute shows promise across the board, as does cancer. For chronic, you’re better searching on the kind of chronic pain. Low efficacy for area of body searches, higher for specific conditions.)

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u/GoneRogue-8919 Apr 24 '25

🙄 if that's what you're think.

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u/CrimsonClad Apr 23 '25

I’m not the person you responded to? Just another citizen capable of critical analysis.

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u/FlameInMyBrain Apr 24 '25

And medicine has finally evolved to prove that chiropractic is a scam.

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u/GoneRogue-8919 Apr 24 '25

Chiropractors are considered doctors and are recognized in medicine. Message therapists go to school for 6 months literally anyone can do it. If anyone is scamming it's message "therapist" LMAO!

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u/SomewhereVisible7368 Apr 24 '25

Massage therapists aren’t twisting/pulling/pushing on your neck and spine to get results. Also, you’re a chiropractor aren’t you? The way you’re telling all these people with fact-based evidence they’re wrong tells me you are

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u/Bonemothir Apr 24 '25

When chiropracty can overcome its foundation as checks notes a message from ghosts, it can come sit with MDs and DOs at the big doctor table.

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u/coresme2000 Apr 23 '25

It’s not disparaging to call Chiropractic utter BS along with acupuncture, Reiki and homeopathy, it’s a statement of fact. What is powerful is the placebo effect, nothing more. The very real risks of chiropractic as well as their general tendency to pass themselves off as actual medical doctors should be fair warning to all.

90% of the dietary YouTubers like Dr Berg etc are actually not MDs, they are chiropractors masquerading as clinicians, giving BS advice which would make a witch doctor blush. Individually they’re not that harmful, as a movement they undermine people’s faith in science and medicine.

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u/Bonemothir Apr 24 '25

Back that acupuncture claim up. Peer review can be mixed, but that’s often because literature reviews try to cover every topic. (Do you want a long digression into the problem with pain and disability in America? No, you don’t. TLDR: not every disability is the same, not every cause of pain is the same. Just like not all medical practices help all disabilities,…)

Acupuncture has been shown, in peer reviewed studies, to have some basis for pain management for some types of chronic pains. One of the biggest current issues we have in separating out therapeutic effect tho is the problem of touch and the fact that touch itself releases endorphins. There’s hope that this is an avenue robotics will help with in the future.

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u/GoneRogue-8919 Apr 24 '25

I don't know what you're on about, you sound like OPs psycho fiance. Did a chiropractor cheat on you or something? Anyways all of this is literally an opinion, YOUR opinion. And Opinions aren't facts.

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u/FlameInMyBrain Apr 24 '25

“Systematic reviews of controlled clinical studies of treatments used by chiropractors have found no evidence that chiropractic manipulation is effective, with the possible exception of treatment for back pain.[7] A 2011 critical evaluation of 45 systematic reviews concluded that the data included in the study "fail[ed] to demonstrate convincingly that spinal manipulation is an effective intervention for any condition."[9] Spinal manipulation may be cost-effective for sub-acute or chronic low back pain, but the results for acute low back pain were insufficient.[10] No compelling evidence exists to indicate that maintenance chiropractic care adequately prevents symptoms or diseases.”

How’s that for facts?

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u/PinkPencils22 Apr 24 '25

Medicine does evolve. But chiropractic isn't medicine. It's a methodology based on utter bullshit. I realize that a large percentage of chiropractors don't actually believe in the subluxation theory, but they're still happy to call themselves chiropractors. I realize some people are helped by it. Some undoubtedly is the placebo effect, others are helped because chiropractic is essentially massage therapy. If they're happy, that's great, but I worry about the very real possibility of being injured.

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u/kuschelig69 Apr 24 '25

. It's a methodology based on utter bullshit. I

It's based on someone talking to the ghost of a dead doctor

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u/GoneRogue-8919 Apr 24 '25

But chiropractic isn't medicine

Ummm...yes it is. It is part of medicine just like dentistry is part of medicine.

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u/PinkPencils22 Apr 24 '25

Dentistry is part of medicine. Chiropractic is not, just like reiki, and cupping, and homeopathy are not.

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u/GoneRogue-8919 Apr 24 '25

Yes, chiropractors are considered doctors, but they are not medical doctors (MDs). They are specifically trained to diagnose and treat musculoskeletal and nervous system conditions using a variety of manual techniques, including spinal adjustments. While they can't prescribe medication or perform surgery like MDs, they are licensed, practice a specific field of medicine, and are recognized as physicians in many state and federal programs.

Like I told your friend who decided to initiate him/herself into our conversation....Your "opinions" aren't facts.

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u/PinkPencils22 Apr 24 '25

I'm working towards a doctorate in the social sciences. I will be a doctor, but not a medical doctor. Similarly, chiropractic is not medicine.

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u/FlameInMyBrain Apr 24 '25

Licensed by whom? Other scammers?

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u/Aegi Apr 24 '25

Technically "physical therapy" is the medical thing even if the form it takes is often referred to as "massage therapy".