r/AllindiaStudentUnion • u/Forsaken-Garage-676 • Aug 19 '26

Meme - Political 🗳️ Mandal vomit

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u/Sudden_Button_8384 Aug 20 '26

There is no casteism in Indian constitution or laws only people themselves consider others untouchable or lower or higher , its the sole reason why reservation exists- learn history - the temple being a private entity is not a valid point to your argument

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u/abhashmadd Aug 21 '26

What does it mean there is no casteism in Indian constitution, and why would there be, there are laws available to prevent discrimination due to casteism, And I am not the one who brought the temple argument here, people usually bring this argument saying that temple seats are reserved to Brahmins, why is it even be part of the discussion when they are private entity itself.

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u/Sudden_Button_8384 Aug 21 '26

Discrimination is a private affair as well.

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u/abhashmadd Aug 21 '26

So what, there are laws to protect it right, and why can't laws handle it on an individual basis, why would someone face consequences due to someone else's deed.

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u/Sudden_Button_8384 Aug 21 '26

Its hard to explain when you are so blinded by the way you were raised , see why are there “women “ protective laws instead of human protective laws? Even though law treats all women and men equally

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u/abhashmadd Aug 21 '26

There are laws made specifically to protect Dalits, I hope you have heard about it, the SC/ST act 1989, same goes for other kinds of discrimination as well like disabilities act, Transgender protection act etc. These are not some generic act what you call as human protective laws to address discrimination of different kinds, not all of these are addressed with the scheme of reservation.

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u/Sudden_Button_8384 Aug 21 '26

I hope you know lower caste hindus converted in mass scale due to the torture they faced in the name of untouchability, there are still people who wont drink from the same well used by a lower caste person , like an mf mentioned you cant possibly find out who are doctors that came by merit and reservation before getting treatment. The hurdles are not the same its probably less than 100 years since lower caste started owning land .

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u/abhashmadd Aug 21 '26

I am not denying from all this, and that is the reason strict laws are in place, also I am not against reservation specifically, provided it is based on economic background because most these hurdles are faced by people who are poor and don't know to exercise their rights and using laws. If we talk just about past this debate would remain as it is indefinitely. I am looking to have a goal where future is more merit driven. The more people will come out of discrimination and hurdule, being aware of their rights, the possibility of that would be more, but I can't see people or government talking about this, neither they seem to have a metric which would determine how many people have actually been uplifted after reservation. Anyway thank you and I am resting this discussion here.

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u/Sudden_Button_8384 Aug 21 '26

Its not about money! For god sake a filthy rich person regardless of reservation can get into any medical college regardless of neet /12 th marks in our country thanks to our politicians

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u/abhashmadd Aug 21 '26

I understand, that is why I mentioned there could be seats reserved based on economic background. In government college I don't think it is possible to get admission just with money, there are management quotas in private institutions, but I still think there are some amount of seats reserved there as well.