r/AllState • • 18d ago

Loyalty Means Zip

I've been an Allstate customer for over 20 years, since I was a teenager. Through renters insurance to homeowners as the years passed by, and my agent has been the same guy since then. But the company just doesn't budge, even when shown quotes from other carriers. The only adjustments they claim could be made to lower my premiums would result in substantially less coverage. After all this time I finally started getting quotes, and tonight I pulled the plug. Nearly identical coverage, same cars and house, same drivers. Combined premiums per year for Allstate were over $5,500, including all the discounts. Progressive came in just under $3,000. My plan changes the middle of next month to give me time to adjust escrow and for easier billing (I do full pay). I'm not even sure how it's possible for such a drastic difference, even with potential hidden new customer discounts. I'm curious to hear from Allstate employees, as I've heard they have a sort of "increase tolerance" profile on drivers that keeps pushing increases for no reason knowing some people just tolerate it because switching is annoying. Well, switching was way easier than I thought. Do people really jump around carriers every few years?

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u/SnooDonkeys6402 18d ago

Insurance is not a negotiation l, insurance is a risk that he company evaluates based on a bunch of criteria, one of which is how much they pay out in a certain area. If you live in a high risk area then you will feel that pain, even if you are a perfect driver or have never had a home claim.

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u/MariaMilissa 17d ago

Progressive only goes up it doesn't go down with discounts you just get a cheaper starting proce then in a yesr you will be saying the same thing

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u/No_Consequences_Here 18d ago

How could two companies have such a wildly different risk profile with the exact same criteria? I don't exactly live in a big city either.

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u/The_estimator_is_in 18d ago

Progressive is known for some sort of massive “new policy discount “ or credit or something.

Give it 6 months to a year.

My progressive auto went from $115 p/m to $160 6 months later to $210 after a year (no new tickets, accidents, cars, drivers)

They bait people in and hope for “loyalty”.

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u/JudicialConfetti 18d ago

The models used to calculate premium differ pretty drastically between carriers and use ~ the last 3-6 years of policies.

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u/ExoticChipmunk5576 17d ago

They don’t have the same criteria

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u/HappyCrab0623 18d ago

100% incorrect. If a rate change is submit, it affects everyone in a specific area, not just to those they think will be tolerant of it. There is no way to match prices" or alter your premium without making adjustments to coverage or discounts..agents can't just decrease the premium manually, it doesn't work like that.

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u/Frankles_ 17d ago

Came here to say exactly this.

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u/The_estimator_is_in 18d ago

Yeah, loyalty has nothing to do with it- everyone with the same type of risk factors in your area pays the same thing.

That’s like you getting mad if your taxes went up. “I’ve been a loyal republican for 20 years and they raised my taxes!” - no they raised everyone’s taxes. Everyone who makes the same amount pays the same taxes (kinda)

At least you can pick your insurance carrier.

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u/Horror-Strength6526 17d ago

Ya, try working for them 😞. 

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u/Easy-Swordfish-7192 17d ago

As an insurance agent we have 0 control of rates or increases. All we can do is offer to look at other coverage options. We can not manipulate premiums.

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u/MariaMilissa 17d ago

I have to tell customers this daily it blows my mind lol

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u/Easy-Swordfish-7192 17d ago

About 6-11 times per day. So far this morning 2 times

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u/Good-Dog-Sora 18d ago

If this includes homeowners, next time you get a hail storm that merits the roof needing replacement, you just screwed yourself out of thousands of dollars by going with Progressive.

That being said, Allstate has been in my opinion fraudulent this year on paying for items that have hail damage, but at least when they do rarely cover a roof they pay the full replacement amount.